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Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
September 22 2007 23:34 GMT
#21
On September 23 2007 07:59 xM(Z wrote:
think of this: there is no one else in this entire universe and it's up to you to figure it out. you should 'be' a god, try to think like one even if it's for a few minutes, seconds, moments; then you will realise you don't 'have to believe in something' , you is all there is.
believe in you.


Actually that might just be where the Ten Commandments originally came from. Someone went nuts and decided that he was better than the rest and made all that crap up.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 23 2007 04:47 GMT
#22
assuming there is a spiritual side to humans in the sense that the expression/development of it is naturally healthy (self realisation), it still takes a liberal viewpoint to be found socially acceptable. liberal as in, not holding hte thoughts as absolute metaphysical truth (you could say, i believe this is absolutely true, provided that you are insincere about it).

even so, spiritualists are pretty much out in the cold on fundamental inquiries of the human.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-23 15:04:58
September 23 2007 15:03 GMT
#23
On September 23 2007 08:34 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2007 07:59 xM(Z wrote:
think of this: there is no one else in this entire universe and it's up to you to figure it out. you should 'be' a god, try to think like one even if it's for a few minutes, seconds, moments; then you will realise you don't 'have to believe in something' , you is all there is.
believe in you.


Actually that might just be where the Ten Commandments originally came from. Someone went nuts and decided that he was better than the rest and made all that crap up.

yes i know, but my perspective is different. the saying "it's a fine line between love and hate" applies here. meaning, while the idea remains the same 'you=>god' the motive that drives one, changes. while you talked about a you that is prideful and arrogant i talk about a you that is humble and modest. different, distinct personalities with the same reason d'etre. of course, their course of action will reflect their respective personalities but there is no doubt in my mind that the ideea behind it it's the same: the godification of the self.

the creation and the destruction, consequences of the same force.

the short version of my opinion regarding your OP:
+ Show Spoiler +
you want something, you search for something because your will demands it.
it, is like a batery (a 4v one for the sake of the argument ), fully charged at birth, empty when you die.
currents (wills intensity) and voltages (wills power) dictates ones personality.
all personality types have something in common: their depletion/deterioration with age is inevitable.
youth exuberance (batery fully charged) , middle life complacency (battery half charged) and old age senility (almost empty batery). the 3 steps in which ones life decays.
you're entering stage 2. in this stage your solitude (apears when you realise that something is now missing) must be appeased both socially and personally. your weakened will drives you to search a fallback plan. since you can't recharge yourself you try to artificially up your value by association with other (group of) people which share your interests, ideas, views, opinions (2 half dead bateries are as good a a new one).

so, you're searching for appartenance to something, to an idea (a greater than you idea) shared by a group of people ( it can be about science, religion, sexual fulfillment, family or job related activities etc ). it is here where all goes to shit.
in theory it should work: with your innate resources (batery) 50% depleted you search for another means of sustainability. strength in numbers should work. a bunch of people ralied to an ideea are stronger then a lonely person doing the same. (2v + 2v =4v) gg, you're a new and better man. (in theory).
now, if you apply that to real life, all goes to hell. i'll take a random 'idea' (since some of you in this thread mentioned religion i'll go with that).

Jehovah's Witnesses, the concept of it it's based on one mans idea. ideally, all followers should understand, follow and uphold that idea because it defines them as a group (it makes them special). the truth is none of them does. the concept that should unite them died with the man who created the sect. so now you have a bunch of unconnected people who are desperately trying to cling to something that is not there and never will be. it's something like this: if i say 'star' one thinks of a star in the sky, another thinks of the stars on some general shoulders; if i say 'heart' , one thinks of the 350grams of flesh that pumps the blood, another thinks of the soul of a person. the point is that they do not understand each other and never will.

it's all bullshit: socialisation, affiliation, adheration, pornification...
they are all artificialy created addictions to facilitate the passing between the 2nd and 3rd stage of life (in which you don't care anymore). a mind booze, destined to make you and keep you dizzy until the middle life crisis hits. after that it's all down hill.

you basically have 2 choices: walk the lonely road of an arbitrary perceived reality or trade your soul for a few more years of ignorance. for some that is not even a choice since the end it's the same for us all: "/j the void".

(it's short, i know )
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Cpt Obvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany3073 Posts
September 23 2007 15:17 GMT
#24
Very very good read. It makes sense in some way. Yet I don't feel the urge to socialize with others and rally myself to an idea. I am not a follower. I have always been the lonely wolf, or to say it more bluntly, an outcast. My views seem confusing to others and I am rarely fully understood in what I say.

My goal is to find an idea for myself, something I can accept of the very essence of all existence, but not for the sake of achieving a state of power or being worshipped as the creator of something great. As of now I think that is the most important thing in my life. Finding that answer I am looking, although I don't really even know the question. You know how the Chinese say "The way is the goal."

Maybe looking for that answer is the goal, however contradictionary that may sound. And let's not even begin to talk about how all human existence is void anyway, because of our ridiculously short life expectancy and our tendency to rape and kill each other, and that only is when we're not currently stealing from eachother and building more bombs. We al know that, it's just not many people are aware of their own mortality. I well am.

But that does not mean I have to despair. I still have some 50 years to go I think, so why sit here and say "It's all meaningless anyway"? I've done that for the past 5 years, but I'm done with that.
Nobody ever reads signatures of people like me, do they?
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