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On June 05 2019 02:15 Jathin wrote:
Good luck with your future endeavors.
You had the great misfortune of being paired with Incontrol as a co-caster. The average age of your audience is ~15, so of course the "feedback" you were getting is that they preferred him over you. Wow, what a great accomplishment to be a group of internet trolls' hero. Must take a lot of skill. At least you tried and failed at something worth trying and failing at.
You'll do better in the real world with a more mature audience.
The mature audience would turn on him for his super unprofessional move to take shots at people while leaving.
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Thank you for all your contributions!
I remember the first time I saw you on a stream a long while ago I was wondering who would volutarily listen to a guy like that. Your constant improvement was a joy to witness and at some point you basically became my favorite face on WCS NA. I always appreciated that you exuded dedication and genuine passion everytime you were on a stream. Your departure will be a loss for sc2.
That being said, I believe that for you personally going back to software development is the right choice. Just make sure to not look at your full time casting career as a failure, but instead remember that you have positively affected people around the globe.
I wish you all the best for the future and thanks again for being one of the outstanding members of the community!
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Man, this was quite hard to read. It paints a depressing picture of the sc2 pro-scene, and its future, like if SC2 esports was a stock, i would be selling right now.
The "criticism" from Rifkin is rich, since I constantly have to watch his content on mute.+ Show Spoiler + I wish i could say he "adds nothing of value" to the games, but it's a lot worse than that. Still, I was trying to hold back, I havent posted anything negative about him, since i did appreciate the work he put in in organizing all these smaller events or secondary streams.
Feardragon, Ravi, I love you for these sincere words, and wish you nothing but the best. I am 100% convinced that this experience can help you in your old career. Most software developers dont get ahead because they're that much better than their competition, they get promoted or approached with better opportunities, because besides being good at coding they can communicate, and network better, and organize their shit better than their peers.
Low self-esteem and anxiety are very real and very serious things, and there isnt much better solution to them than tackling the problem head on, being aware of it and not letting them win by conceding without trying.
Im convinced that being exposed to this highly competitive, and sometimes toxic environment made you stronger, and the fact that you could say "fuck it, let's try, whatever comes out of it" could be a solid foundation to build self-esteem in the future. An overwhelming majority of people dont have the balls to do it.
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I only hope the best for you. I think you really are too hard on yourself, but I understand why you feel you must leave. I've also had to largely cancel my life for a loved one with cancer. Try to find joy where you can, and know that a lot of us (especially those who love puns) really appreciated you.
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I loved your WCS Intros, they were very original and fresh.
Your passion and bravery in pursuing your dreams despiste many odds are inspiring. Take it easy and best luck for you and your family.
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"but even viewership numbers significantly fell and I realized I am simply not that interesting of a person"
Bro........just cause youre not doing great on twitch doesn't mean you are not an interesting person. Are any of the pros we love watching all THAT interesting of people??? They mainly just play starcraft...not that interesting! but many are high level GMs and that is going to be more fun for an sc player to watch than a lesser skilled player, and it sounds like you have way too much life stuff going on to worry about being a GM in SC.
Just please dont let random starcraft nerds have any effect on the view of your self worth. What does rifkin do besides sit his fat ass in his gaming chair all day???? Like who would EVER aspire to be like rifin? LOL..there no insult he could say that would change the fact that Id much rather be me (or you) than him. I enjoy moving my body around way too much for that 
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Sorry to hear your leaving the StarCraft 2 scene. Wishing you best of luck in your future!
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On June 05 2019 04:27 Boggyb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2019 02:15 Jathin wrote:
Good luck with your future endeavors.
You had the great misfortune of being paired with Incontrol as a co-caster. The average age of your audience is ~15, so of course the "feedback" you were getting is that they preferred him over you. Wow, what a great accomplishment to be a group of internet trolls' hero. Must take a lot of skill. At least you tried and failed at something worth trying and failing at.
You'll do better in the real world with a more mature audience. The mature audience would turn on him for his super unprofessional move to take shots at people while leaving.
You're the only talking about it, does that mean you're the only mature one?
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a 75% paycut . . .and you could break even??. Im a software developer, im not sure how good you are but im quite high up in my role. Taking a 75% paycut will mean my lowest paid employee would be getting less than someone on minimum wage working the same hours. What SE/D are you doing? Looking at where they live mortgage and bills is all they could do. forget any disposable and a car and this is going off someone making around 40 - 60k doing what we as im sure you know junior roles.
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Feardragon is such a nice person and I'm sad to see him leave like that, SC2 needs every warrior like him.
I kind of agree with Rifkin's post though, but it's not just Feardragon, almost every caster who was never a real pro gamer would be in the same category, Rifkin himself too! That's why his post seems bad.
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Hey Feardragon, thanks for all the content! Loved your stuff!
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Well, gl in the future.
That said, I really disliked your casting (wcs winter/qualifier were terribles) and I am sad seeing this community using you in order to be toxic on other valuable members. (Rifking/Incontrol)
Edit : saw the reddit thread, quite ashamed to be part of this community.
User was warned for this post.
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So sad to read this, for multiple reasons, your family situation, your lack of confidence and for this community that can be real shitty sometimes.
I really liked you both as a commentator and as a personality in the scene, I enjoy how grounded and humble you are and you always bring a lot of interesting discussions to the table.
I totally agree with your youtube video on caster criticism, there is different styles and all of them have fans. Personally I love the analytical starcraft focused ones like Apollo(the god), Artosis and Demuslim, they are my favorites. On the other hand I don't enjoy Incontrol at all, but thats just me, it doesn't make his casting bad nor does it mean he is worse than any other caster. Different viewers want different things from the casters and no one can make everyone happy, thats why its good to have two casters with different style in the same stream.
Sad to see you go Feardragon and I sincerly hope I keep seeing you around in the community but if not good luck with everything. Thanks for the enjoyment you've given me over the years!
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Rifkin's comments are definitely interesting, but they really don't apply to Ravi. Ravi's the best caster in NA in my honest opinion.
I really don't care about Rifkin's opinion anyways when all he does is whine about money on his stream, lol.
Lets be honest he is just jealous you got the job and not him.
I am often disappointed when casters like Incontrol and Tasteless think their personality can carry their casting. Like, I have seen a caster that didn't even know the patch notes.. Like whaaaat? I've actually seen this happen multiple times. Their bosses need to fire them or make them work harder. They should be working 8 hours a day like the rest of us if they want similar pay... I'm so sorry that you had to take such a large pay cut to cast Ravi. Please keep posting part-time.
Can't wait for this thread to start another "caster feedback" topic on the pylon show for the 5th time.
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As the famous Swedish author Verner von Heidenstam wrote in his poem Åkallan och löfte (from 1899): "Det är skönare lyss till en sträng, som brast,än att aldrig spänna en båge." which roughly translates to "It is better to listen to the string that breaks, than to never have drawn the bow".
Of course, poets are rarely sober and Verner may well have been high as kite when he wrote that, but those are pretty good words to live by for really important things in life. If you wouldn't have tried to go full time caster you would surely have regretted that for the rest of your life. Now you tried, and it didn't work out as you had hoped, but you tried, and no one can take that away from you!
I hope you and your family will be able to stabilize and take a third to use SC2 lingo. Take care and good luck with whatever you undertake in the future!
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On June 06 2019 04:27 youngjiddle wrote:
Rifkin's comments are definitely interesting, but they really don't apply to Ravi. Ravi's the best caster in NA in my honest opinion.
I really don't care about Rifkin's opinion anyways when all he does is whine about money on his stream, lol.
I am often disappointed when casters like Incontrol and Tasteless think their personality can carry their casting. Like, I have seen a caster that didn't even know the patch notes.. Like whaaaat? I've actually seen this happen multiple times. Their bosses need to fire them or make them work harder.
You're really all over the place with this one.
1. You find Rifkin's comments interesting
2. you dont care about Rifkin's opinion, fuck him anyways right?
3. You throw shade at Incontrol for being uninformed about the game, where in this specific situation (taht was referenced in this topic) the problem was how supposedly Incontrol-Ravi dont interact well together, since Incontrol knew what was happening in the game, cuz he read the situation correctly, and kinda jokingly told FD off, who didnt catch what was going on.
On June 06 2019 04:27 youngjiddle wrote:.
Can't wait for this thread to start another "caster feedback" topic on the pylon show for the 5th time.
4. After you complain about the casters, you complain how there is too much talk about caster feedback
Pull yourself together, son
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I'm pretty sure the intent of Feardragon's post was something other than starting a toxic "fuck Rifkin" thread.
Feardragon, if you're still reading, I'm really sorry about your struggles. The scene will be lesser without you. I think you made the right decision, especially with regards to your mental well-being, and I hope when you reflect on your experiences you don't feel as though you failed. Good luck to you and your family.
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On June 06 2019 05:01 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2019 04:27 youngjiddle wrote:
Rifkin's comments are definitely interesting, but they really don't apply to Ravi. Ravi's the best caster in NA in my honest opinion.
I really don't care about Rifkin's opinion anyways when all he does is whine about money on his stream, lol.
I am often disappointed when casters like Incontrol and Tasteless think their personality can carry their casting. Like, I have seen a caster that didn't even know the patch notes.. Like whaaaat? I've actually seen this happen multiple times. Their bosses need to fire them or make them work harder. You're really all over the place with this one. 1. You find Rifkin's comments interesting 2. you dont care about Rifkin's opinion, fuck him anyways right? 3. You throw shade at Incontrol for being uninformed about the game, where in this specific situation (taht was referenced in this topic) the problem was how supposedly Incontrol-Ravi dont interact well together, since Incontrol knew what was happening in the game, cuz he read the situation correctly, and kinda jokingly told FD off, who didnt catch what was going on. Show nested quote +On June 06 2019 04:27 youngjiddle wrote:.
Can't wait for this thread to start another "caster feedback" topic on the pylon show for the 5th time. 4. After you complain about the casters, you complain how there is too much talk about caster feedback Pull yourself together, son
It's fine if you don't understand what I said, I'm not talking about Incontrol-Ravi team-up.
Anyways the last part I was right.
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I think this is great because now you will again have time for Useless Facts, right? That was my most favourite content in the history of SC2 
Jokes aside, thanks for the insightful post, you seem to be just a fine bloke with a passion, good luck in whatever you choose to do!
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the casting in sc has got a bit meh for me over the last 2 years, dont take it too personal FD, you cane in late to an old boys club. Rotti is still hands down a class act, but with all the others doing that stupid ooooohhhh sound artosis does and kind of minicing each other . . its sounds stupid to me, if rotti aint casting that mute button is on.
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