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describing the minimap as some kind of "tinder for violence"... man i love Slacks
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"idk why we call them creeps, they're actually pretty cute and nice, but hey maybe they do things we don't know about ... " - slacks
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Day[9] was like "a few millions? meh" ... "20 millions?..." "Well I always thought the game was interesting, moba are really rts in the end, and I always like playing 5vs5 on starcraft and I wanted to make a 5vs5 hearthstonet tournament, so yes this is my jam, it has always been, I love moba, I love dota".
I'm kidding, I like Day[9], he was so important to starcraft and his stream is pretty popular.
I ddon't doubt that he will understand dota after a few months, he might have some new hindsights and he is the kind of guy who culd figure any game.
Well, he didn't really say that he was gonna play hardcore, make tutorails and all that stuff.
He kinda post about dota right after TI, which is good publicity but doesn't sound as naturally "passionnate".
And also I wonder, will he have time to learn dota? (i'm pretty sure he already knows more than lots of people), but I mean wasn't time one of the reason he decided to stream from time to time, and focused on hearthstone cause it's abit more "easier" than on others games?
I am not up to date on his situation, I know he streamed more and more (I think??), and his youtube channel always have new videos.
gl hf, and I know a girl left you a great feeling about this one so " g . g ".
Traitor, if you talk your brother out of starcraft we will find you, we will bring you to the new Kespa-Jail secret project: Caster/Streamer/Tutorial-maker/Coach special KeSpa Jail- Because passion comes in many forms!
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There's a shitton of money in Dota2.
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i kept saying this when they were making starcraft 2: 3 dimensions. 3 dimensions. 3 dimensions. and time. that's what an RTS was MEANT TO BE. and then it wasn't.
dota is huge now and it's awesome and it's better than anything I've ever done AND YOU CANT LEAVE THE GAME EVER.
honestly fuck dota i only like bw. i know i deserve to get banned for saying i only like bw (and I'm rarely ever banned) but you know what fuck dota i only like bw. violent crime happens so that violent punishment can happen.
FFS MIKE FILE CHAPTER 11 BRO YOUR COMPANY HAS BEE-TRAYED US.
PPS if anyone has that old Brittney spears ums msg me we got deals happening all over facebook
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If he goes Dota I would go too. I need his soothing voice to learn after 350 hours vs bots.
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On August 15 2016 19:20 YokoKano wrote:
i kept saying this when they were making starcraft 2: 3 dimensions. 3 dimensions. 3 dimensions. and time. that's what an RTS was MEANT TO BE. and then it wasn't.
dota is huge now and it's awesome and it's better than anything I've ever done AND YOU CANT LEAVE THE GAME EVER.
honestly fuck dota i only like bw. i know i deserve to get banned for saying i only like bw (and I'm rarely ever banned) but you know what fuck dota i only like bw. violent crime happens so that violent punishment can happen.
FFS MIKE FILE CHAPTER 11 BRO YOUR COMPANY HAS BEE-TRAYED US.
PPS if anyone has that old Brittney spears ums msg me we got deals happening all over facebook
i have brittney spears as well as idra strip, ill host on fish under "더운 게임 페루 안와요#w"
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@yoko whats missing from sc2 i dont understand what you mean. Glad to see day9 having fun!
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The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS]
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On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS]
considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9
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On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9
i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong.
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On August 16 2016 04:20 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9 i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong.
ya dota's more strategic than BW
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On August 16 2016 04:20 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9 i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong.
oh sorry i forgot to consider flaming and translating from spanish to english to filipino to traditional chinese meaningful tactical/strategic decisions
also, trying to reconcile the unfortunate 15 year old who just lost his job at wendy's with the barely sentient nino rata that insta locked pudge mid vs OD with ¿mi idiota! FKER GRINGO?
and no, this isn't just solo que. solo que is just more fun because actually playing on a team is even more hellish because players always have cognitive dissonance between "this is just a game" and "i'm playing to improve and become a better player" and "i wanna win" and "i wanna play with the team," the respective importance of each factor changing dynamically during matches causing crazy new strife each time someone gets ganked...
this is what makes dota difficult at a pro level, squabbles between players... not the game itself.. it's an HR management simulator more than a strategic video game
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Could you give one example of something that hold any strategic value to your eyes then?
never mind, you are either joking, not thinking straight, hating things
in any case, even serious,, you won't consider anything to not be as strategic as you say.
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hmm ya dota. I'd probably play like 5 hrs a day if i had coach
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On August 15 2016 18:09 Gurderoy wrote:
I like Day[9], he was so important to starcraft and his stream is pretty popular.
I ddon't doubt that he will understand dota after a few months, he might have some new hindsights and he is the kind of guy who culd figure any game.
the more hindsites the better.
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On August 16 2016 19:21 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 04:20 Garrl wrote:On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9 i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong. oh sorry i forgot to consider flaming and translating from spanish to english to filipino to traditional chinese meaningful tactical/strategic decisions also, trying to reconcile the unfortunate 15 year old who just lost his job at wendy's with the barely sentient nino rata that insta locked pudge mid vs OD with ¿mi idiota! FKER GRINGO? and no, this isn't just solo que. solo que is just more fun because actually playing on a team is even more hellish because players always have cognitive dissonance between "this is just a game" and "i'm playing to improve and become a better player" and "i wanna win" and "i wanna play with the team," the respective importance of each factor changing dynamically during matches causing crazy new strife each time someone gets ganked... this is what makes dota difficult at a pro level, squabbles between players... not the game itself.. it's an HR management simulator more than a strategic video game
i was going to go get a drink but now i don't have to i can just drink your sweet sweet dota tears
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On August 16 2016 19:21 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 04:20 Garrl wrote:On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9 i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong. oh sorry i forgot to consider flaming and translating from spanish to english to filipino to traditional chinese meaningful tactical/strategic decisions also, trying to reconcile the unfortunate 15 year old who just lost his job at wendy's with the barely sentient nino rata that insta locked pudge mid vs OD with ¿mi idiota! FKER GRINGO? and no, this isn't just solo que. solo que is just more fun because actually playing on a team is even more hellish because players always have cognitive dissonance between "this is just a game" and "i'm playing to improve and become a better player" and "i wanna win" and "i wanna play with the team," the respective importance of each factor changing dynamically during matches causing crazy new strife each time someone gets ganked... this is what makes dota difficult at a pro level, squabbles between players... not the game itself.. it's an HR management simulator more than a strategic video game
I mean you're wrong, sure dota has an additional aspect of complexity because it's a team game but that's not the only reason it's more strategic. SC is more tactical and mechanically far more complex and difficult, dota is more strategic.
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On August 16 2016 19:21 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 04:20 Garrl wrote:On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9 i'm the biggest bw fanboy in the world but that is just straight up wrong. this is what makes dota difficult at a pro level, squabbles between players... not the game itself..
On August 16 2016 03:42 Endymion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 01:48 Cricketer12 wrote:
The question is: will Day[BW] show up or Day[HS] considering dota has basically 0 tactical/strategic depth compared to bw i would bet hs day9
way to derail the thread with idiotic game bashing, there's a ton of depth in both games.
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As someone who primarily plays primarily Dota right now, I'm starting to believe that Dota is like 80% strategic/gameplan at the high levels. If you had a Dota computer, it could probably predict the outcome after the draft, with a few extra behaviors maybe. If you look at the last 5 or so series at TI, the games were entirely based off of the strategy. The in game actions, apart from some basic execution (push, farm, group), were not deciding factors at all.
Ehome played amazingly against EG...but EG had a superior strategy so it felt like there was nothing they could do.
Wingz picked some of the most mind-numbing drafts against EG and there was not much EG could do.
DC just picked their favorite heroes and Wingz wins in yet another disappointing finals.
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Strategy and positioning matter far more in DotA 2 than mechanics. I mean, mechanics are still very useful, but not to the overwhelming degree that they matter in SC2. The problem with SC2 is that it's being held back by its hardcore fan base (its casual fan base having left for other games like DotA 2). The game is needlessly complicated and difficult, and you need a ridiculous amount of APM to even do basic stuff like macroing.
There's so many things in SC2 that don't require any thinking but have to be done manually to pander to the APM-fetish crowd. In SC2, I always hear casters talking about a certain player's mechanics, particularly their macro and micro. In DotA 2, mechanics are barely ever mentioned; the casters are too busy talking about what the players are actually doing (tactics/strategy) as opposed to how they're doing it (mechanics).
Heck, even the sole DotA 2 map feels much more alive than any existing SC2 map. All SC2 maps are symmetrical and noninteractive. The DotA 2 map is asymmetrical (Radiant has a better jungle while Dire has easier accesss to Roshan) and interactive, with creeps and destructible terrain (trees) and runes and secret/side shops.
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I'm not trying to make a "one game is better" argument, but I think Dota's popularity (and SC2's decline) are almost entirely related to the type of game. Dota is a team game that can be played casually.
The corollary to my previous post is that the diversity in gameplay is largely patch driven. If they were to stop changing the game up, I think it would start looking more like LoL in terms of staleness.
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