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questionable memory disclaimer
this is a chronicle of impressions of an event that was rather exceptional for me personally.
i go with my wife anna to her prof. nesson's fair trial class. she tells me it's been overrun by sjws who dominate the conversation, and nesson believes that everyone with a grievance has a right to air it. he seems kind to a fault, but it is still incredibly refreshing that he is kind. if you research him, he's advocated mainly for the little guy.
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today he's bringing in rastafari ras iyah v (rahss ai-yah vee), who's going to a UN conference in NY soon to testify in favor of the rasta faith's religious rights, particularly to perform rituals involving ganja and peace and love.
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nesson introduces him with that information i just gave, and the information that ras iyah v was part of some western group in jamaica who had been growing ganja against the law, which was introduced by colonists to subject their people. western was important, because recently, an eastern group led by some group of elites was trying to legitimize and wrest control of the economic fruits of the illicit ganja harvest, called the 'future ganja growers [association]'. he makes them sound like an oppressive upper class, which they probably are.
ras iyah v preaches love and peace and cultural self-determination for all. he does this for quite awhile with a bunch of idealistic sayings that have nothing to do with how he's going to bring it about.
nesson eventually interrupts him and asks about the marijuana aspect of what he's going to say to the UN council whatever. how is he going to advocate for the rastafari's right to use it?
ras iyah v repeats some of the arguments from basic human rights, as well as makes references to specific sections of the un charter. he also demonstrates knowledge of several common stoner praises for weed, love, peace, just the great things about it if you use it correctly. similar ideas with his particular cultural inflection go on, for maybe 10-15 minutes.
nesson opens it up to the class, though ras wants to keep going for awhile. nesson wants people to help ras make his case in the un council in the best way, so he wants people to bring up any concerns with what he's saying and pretty much actually tell him what they think he should say to get what he wants.
ras brings in the fact that the US leads the world in drug persecution and historically led much of the worldwide war on drugs.
someone asks what the UN's going to do about it in the US, because the US is all about states and individual states laws on marijuana. s/he doesn't really mention the existence of the DEA as far as i can remember, but whatever. ras says however it's structured, legalization of responsible use of marijuana is the duty of the people to figure out for their local systems. people should educate people about how to live life well and how to use plants well holistically, esp. of course weed.
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another guy asks about other drugs. ras emphasizes that he is against drugs, especially the processed aspect. he dislikes alcohol, cocaine, heroin. he calls sugar a drug. he says he'll never drink a bottle of coke or pepsi. he doesn't think the (moderate) use of marijuana as a plant counts as "drug use," though he says it can be used as a drug. he says not to cook a lot and eat it, as it can be very unpleasant and you can feel it for days.
i timidly raise my hand, and nesson takes note. at a natural break, he signals for me to ask my question: "this one's an open question to the students, how do you think we should get american culture to think of weed in a healthy way, and minimize the harm? the way it's thought of, the way it's used. uh, take your time." faint laughter.
ras al v goes on advocating for things he advocated for.
another guy eventually responds, (paraphased):
i think american culture can't handle the introduction of marijuana. american culture misuses everything. look at our fat people, look at our other drugs, look at our education system. we probably won't handle weed well. he says it sardonically and gets lots of laughs.
i don't like him. i can't get a read on what he actually wants to do in life, he seems to have given up on the american education system as a generalization, and he's smug about how cynical he is. also, weed's already (mis)used, like what's his point? i laughed though, cuz it felt funny at the time anyway, and of course true regarding retards.
at this point i want to talk about how it's a personal choice anyway and retards shouldn't matter cuz retards will do retard shit and that's a dumb reason to not let me do whatever the fuck i want. in a nicer way. i don't say it though. im really fucked up, and my heart's racing. i also think about how education should be a personal thing, parents should take responsibility for educating their kids about literally everything that their kid could possibly even be exposed to ever, etc. this part never gets mentioned.
i dont remember eveything, but nesson eventually asks about the relationship between christianity and rastafarianism. i use anna's phone to signal to her that i am displeased with this line of questioning, and she gives an embarrassed laugh. my intuition proves correct, as he rambles on about a lot of theological and historical stuff that i have no interest in (jesus is black). this goes on for quite awhile, but i needed to calm down anyway.
eventually, after the class, i work up the courage talk to professor nesson, while ras iyah v was occupied talking to a girl. i asked what exactly it was ras iyah v was going to advocate for in the UN council meeting, because i wasn't clear at the time. he responded that it was for the religious and cultural freedom to use ganja in their ganja peace love rituals (paraphased). i told him what i thought ras should emphasize at the meeting: the right to self-determination, individual freedom for every culture, "libertarianism," or at least one aspect of it. of all the stuff he talked about, that should be the core of it. nesson says he agrees, and he refers to a specific part of the UN charter that apparently goes along with that angle. i can't even remember to smile, though i really should have. i blame the weed. he says thank you, and i say thank you. i awkwardly walk away.
it was a weird experience. i didn't like a lot of the things that were said. a lot of the things bored me. it felt like a really round-about way to ask the world to legalize weed, and weed specifically, because of the immense emotional connection ras has to his own culture. he is a human being who literally spends his life finding rationalizations and sayings and pieces of history that justify his own people, because in the past, his people were fucked and abused and it left a lot of wounds that were passed down.
his audience was often bored as well. this was what made the experience the most uncomfortable: the thought that none of these law students in particular, except 1 or 2, were ever going to spend any additional time advocating for this particular thing. everyone was given the opportunity to give responses by email, and a lot did. but they're just additional words that probably won't significantly impact the impact of ras on that un council meeting.
not that i could have expected anything better, but the irony bothered me, as it always does on things that feel on some level that they might ought to be important.
i won't say more bad things about how i felt about the event.
i think weed legalization progressing at a fine pace and im not really worried about it. people like me can deal with it. everyone else deals with it fine. it's a whatever thing. worse things happen. who cares, really?
if you take this badly, please don't... it would hurt me...
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your too worked up imo. just a lecture.
the writing is on the wall, we've already won. dont worry so much about the means just focus on the ends imo
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ultimately i dont care
i easily get worked up its why i probably dont actually want to enroll in law school for awhile, though if/when i did i already have a pretty clear mission in mind which wouldnt really care about stuff like this at all per se
also questionable amounts of weed compared to my normal usage in preparation
whys ur first response to offer advice tho
like i appreciate the sentiment but like do you not take the level of craziness i display seriously like do u think u r more qualified than me to comment on my work up ed ness?
note: anna says she says yesterdays lecture/guest was more interesting
idk i dont wanna go to the fair trial class again its a big uncomfortable class for me i'll probably interact with other ppl instead for #2
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Interesting read. Not sure if I really grasped a larger point coming from your blog, but I enjoyed the somewhat raw and fast paced retelling of your experience.
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funny thing actually when i first started browisng ld a common complaint was p6 oversharing about his fiancee
so uh
it just became a thing for me to not mention it
also funny thing some ppl who still post on tl actually knew already but literally none of the ld regulars
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rofl u are married?????????????????????
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im not advising you to do anything.
I just think that state by state, and eventually, federal, legalization is inevitable at this point. the specific reasons dont matter that much imo
i feel like i could have used a semicolon somewhere in there
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yea my personal line of questioning, regarding how to think of weed better, wasnt about that as for the rest of the report...
i'll put this dlsclaimer at the top, but my intention was to give a look into what the class was like. i thought a lot of what was what was said was a waste of time and irrelevant and rehash on rehash on rehash which is incidentally how i feel about a WHOLE LOT OF SHIT. i mention how uncomfortable i felt it was at the end of the thing too.
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in some ways
but probably not in the way you think
ill make a girl blog later ok
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On April 13 2016 06:28 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
in some ways
but probably not in the way you think
ill make a girl blog later ok
I feel like she could also write a TunA blog. :O
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i mean srsly tho who just would think of wsc---iak not even polish people konw thats a real name
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SoCal8910 Posts
interesting. i can't claim to know much about Rastafarian-ism but i agree with your approach to how the meeting with the UN/US should go for this guy.
when you address things as "religious freedoms" - people roll their eyes and say that you're just a bible thumper (not the twitch meme)
when you address things as something to the effect of "personal freedoms" or as "the right to choose," people tend to offer a more favorable reaction..especially since many can identify with their own personal struggle to identify and express themselves freely (a la LGBTQ discussions).
interesting read, tuna. thanks for provoking this discussion.
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4 stars for not having a single capital letter.
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SoCal8910 Posts
On April 13 2016 07:29 TheEmulator wrote:
4 stars for not having a single capital letter.
On April 13 2016 05:56 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:today he's bringing in rastafari ras iyah v (rahss ai-yah vee), who's going to a UN conference in NY soon to testify in favor of the rasta faith's religious rights, particularly to perform rituals involving ganja and peace and love.
bruh
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ill edit my next blogs more before first publishing; i rationalized rushing it out to myself just because of how i felt, but i'll do it more sober and cleanly next time
also Poll: capitalization for blog?n (8) 67% y (4) 33% 12 total votes Your vote: capitalization for blog? (Vote): y
(Vote): n
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wait you're married??? yet there was a girl blog? i'm so confused, what was in the girl blog?
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what do u need the high for tho
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Well nice to have more info about your life and see some more personal writing instead of discussing Dota, given that I see your posts on more or less a daily basis.
I still don't really understand you as a person, I don't know why you format your posts in the way you do, if you're trying to prove a point, if you're just absurdly lazy, or just trying to blend in (or none of those), anyway.
I think you have a lot of strong opinions of things (as do I), and I think in terms of intelligence, you have a good brain on your shoulders, but for whatever reason, you tend to do your best to make the communication of your points as unconvincing and unpleasant as possible even though when someone can look through all that, you do have valid points. Just some weird egotistical effect from my viewpoint.
I'd personally enjoy reading some manifesto type blog from you, anyway, take care.
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On April 13 2016 17:25 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Well nice to have more info about your life and see some more personal writing instead of discussing Dota, given that I see your posts on more or less a daily basis.
I still don't really understand you as a person, I don't know why you format your posts in the way you do, if you're trying to prove a point, if you're just absurdly lazy, or just trying to blend in (or none of those), anyway.
I think you have a lot of strong opinions of things (as do I), and I think in terms of intelligence, you have a good brain on your shoulders, but for whatever reason, you tend to do your best to make the communication of your points as unconvincing and unpleasant as possible even though when someone can look through all that, you do have valid points. Just some weird egotistical effect from my viewpoint.
I'd personally enjoy reading some manifesto type blog from you, anyway, take care.
sure i can explain this at some point
you're not wrong at all
On April 13 2016 16:10 andyrau wrote:
what do u need the high for tho
i can explain this too
in a later blog
not that i expect too many / most people to agree with my life choices
i know a number of common personal philosophies / systems of ethics that pretty much disagree with my logic regarding my choices here
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i hope these wont turn into one of those pre-massacre manifesto blogs 
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Sugar has the extra effect of being nice tasting to most people. Thus easy to get started on. (Not to mention the amount of products you don't even think about.)
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Not eating sugar makes food taste a lot more interesting, instead of always sweet. Also, when you don't eat much sugar then the times you do, it tastes so strong and overpowering usually.
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SoCal8910 Posts
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/
"What this review demonstrates is that rats with intermittent access to food and a sugar solution can show both a constellation of behaviors and parallel brain changes that are characteristic of rats that voluntarily self-administer addictive drugs. In the aggregrate, this is evidence that sugar can be addictive."
there are plenty of studies available that illustrate how sugar can cause an "addictive reaction," but here is just one of them from...2008.
its a shame that this isn't a more commonly shared view
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On April 13 2016 20:08 BluemoonSC wrote:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/"What this review demonstrates is that rats with intermittent access to food and a sugar solution can show both a constellation of behaviors and parallel brain changes that are characteristic of rats that voluntarily self-administer addictive drugs. In the aggregrate, this is evidence that sugar can be addictive." there are plenty of studies available that illustrate how sugar can cause an "addictive reaction," but here is just one of them from...2008. its a shame that this isn't a more commonly shared view
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/apr/07/the-sugar-conspiracy-robert-lustig-john-yudkin I found this quite interesting recently, perhaps helps explain why sugar wasn't considered more harmful before.
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interesting quote from that article:
Gary Taubes is a physicist by background. “In physics,” he told me, “You look for the anomalous result. Then you have something to explain. In nutrition, the game is to confirm what you and your predecessors have always believed.” As one nutritionist explained to Nina Teicholz, with delicate understatement: “Scientists believe that saturated fat is bad for you, and there is a good deal of reluctance toward accepting evidence to the contrary.”
every diet fad basically follows this logic. look at the "paleo" diet thats out - confirming what our predecessors ate is best for us. the human condition is a fascinating thing.
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These Tuna blogs go places. It is an adventure with every read.
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On April 13 2016 11:24 Aerisky wrote:
wait you're married??? yet there was a girl blog? i'm so confused, what was in the girl blog?
ditto
ditto
ditto
explain yourself!
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just fyi i don't capitalize myself so don't listen to the haters
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On April 13 2016 18:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:i can explain this too in a later blog not that i expect too many / most people to agree with my life choices i know a number of common personal philosophies / systems of ethics that pretty much disagree with my logic regarding my choices here
honestly that would be such a better blog cause this shit was boring as fuck who even cares about the legalization of pot
3 stars smh
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wish i hadnt found out today that banning from blogs doesnt work on LD but ill try it anyway
man it clearly really doesnt work
andy could you kindly prty pls never post in my blogs again?
On April 14 2016 07:13 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2016 11:24 Aerisky wrote:
wait you're married??? yet there was a girl blog? i'm so confused, what was in the girl blog? ditto ditto ditto explain yourself!
y, i'll make a real girl blog about my wife later probably
the girl blog was a weird thing that i regretted mostly; an omegle conversation with a stranger who had girl problems himself... which went on for awhile
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oh, so it was a girl blog by proxy, not an actual blog about a girl you knew then?
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