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Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
September 21 2015 00:55 GMT
#1
Boy it's been a while since I last did one of these. Life has a funny way of letting you think you've got time to do everything you want to and only realizing it's been a year when you're a few thousand feet up in the air :D

I say it every time, but it's still pretty crazy how much has happened in my life since I gambled everything in my life on getting into esports. Not to say I had much, but it's hard not to feel blessed every time I finish an event and think about being able to do something I truly love for a living and not worry about whether I'll have hot water at home that month. Now we can talk about the fun stuff :D

What a year it's been! This has been the most stressful so far, knowing life it won't be any easier moving forward but boy did it take me a while to adjust. I think my biggest struggle was taking my work and SC2 too seriously, as weird as that sounds. I had a lot of professional hurdles to make with moving closer to work, cleaning up and trying to deliver a better product to the tournaments that hire me, but I really burned myself out on StarCraft this year.

Recently it's gotten better but this Summer I really went down the rabbit hole. For most of the year up until July, I spent every single day playing/streaming/watching SC2. As good as that may sound my life was very unbalanced, that was ALL I did.When Rotti left for Europe for a few months I didn't have anyone in Rancho to really hang with, and so 100% of my time went into playing/streaming. As fun as it is to play games all day, even that requires moderation.

It didn't quite hit me until I saw what was to me a normal rant I'd make being put up on reddit, and the subsequent questions I got from the community/Blizzard about how I really felt about where I was spending my time. At that point I was still making 15-hour SC2 days, spending 3-4 hours looking for new places to live/work/food and then sleeping until the next tournament was on to watch. I never really noticed it being an issue until it was too late. It's honestly a miracle I dodged the bullet I shot at myself this year with how much I was forcing myself to keep working so much. I've certainly hurt a few of my relationships with people I respect and only time will tell if I can redeem my misdoings, but I'm more upset that trying to have this sort of "don't-give-a-fuck" attitude warped a lot of views of me from my audience and the StarCraft community.

Recently I've made my best moves towards being more responsible, and I've found a renewed interest in SC2 simply by trying to do a few more human things. For example, I've finally started to work watching non-gaming content into my life. I watched my first TV show season in its entirety this year :D I also managed to make time to play a few more games that I really wanted to get a chance to play, and I'm only playing sC2 when I want to (just not 12 hours a day!). I've come to realize how important it is to maintain a good balance of work/play and when I let my work consume me so much playing Starcraft didn't really feel like "playing" at all.

I don't really know if I can repair the damage I've done to myself with the toxic overload of streaming/playing SC2 with literally nothing else in-between I did for the first half of this year, but I'm very excited for LotV and I'm hoping that moving forward I can pace myself a little bit better. Hopefully if I've made a fool of myself in front of some of you I can change your minds with my actions, and not just these words

I wanted to ramble on a bit more but I think it's a bit too far removed from this subject. Remember, everything in moderation!

-Nate

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CommentatorNever give up, Never surrender
sweffymo
Profile Joined March 2013
United States62 Posts
September 21 2015 01:10 GMT
#2
It's nice to hear! :D Remember, when you let Edge-thanias win, you let COMMUNISM win.
ShoNuff23
Profile Joined September 2015
3 Posts
September 21 2015 01:10 GMT
#3
#Passion
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
September 21 2015 01:30 GMT
#4
Word. Husky got really sick because he was spending all of this time indoors, and wasn't getting enough vitamin D and fresh air. Being Human = most OP race
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
September 21 2015 01:44 GMT
#5
I'm glad to hear that you're starting to find more balance in your life. Nothing, no matter how fun or how worthwhile, is a substitute for living.

Godspeed, Nathanias!
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
September 21 2015 01:44 GMT
#6
heh... I know how you feel and have been working on a rather way to much lengthy blog post myself on this topic, But at least you got opportunities to do many cool things in the SC2 community. I Just kept working myself so hard and nothing seemed to go correctly, right from the start of the WoL beta way into HOTS. Been working on breaking that cycle myself, but sometimes I honestly just feel lost as there isnt any other way for me to proceed besides work hard for the things I want to do.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 21 2015 01:48 GMT
#7
Finding an alternate outlet and doing some REAL LIFE stuff is important to have balance yeah. esports doesn't sleep, but it's important that you do. Don't burn out nathanias, your memes might not be welcome on TL ( ) but everyone loves you.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
September 21 2015 02:04 GMT
#8
Hey Nate,

I'm just a random guy on the internet, but you should try getting into fitness/athletic stuff. It really does add a lot to make me feel more balanced for my engineering job, and if you go to /r/fitness you'll see plenty of others who feel the same. A bunch of others in the SC community like Khaldor, Slivko, TLO, and others I probably don't know about talked a lot about how fitness kept them grounded and served as a stress reliever

Something to consider bud!
rikapi
Profile Joined January 2014
United States63 Posts
September 21 2015 02:12 GMT
#9
Sounds like everything that happened this summer outside of SC2 definitely is doing good for you! :D
saving e-sports one Carbot cookie at a time :D
loft
Profile Joined July 2009
United States344 Posts
September 21 2015 02:15 GMT
#10
What warranted this rant? Did Nate do something weird?

There are so many great things to do in Cali away from the computer. If you need ideas PM me.

Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1020 Posts
September 21 2015 04:01 GMT
#11
cool
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 04:07:43
September 21 2015 04:07 GMT
#12
I'm glad to see you're finding your way between life and work and your passion. I still think a lot about the old blog post you wrote a year or two back; http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/408571-esports-and-commitment#1

Haha, after checking, I noticed I made the same comment last time you blogged: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/448309-off-the-deep-end#12

On April 13 2014 19:11 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/408571-esports-and-commitment#1

Man, almost a full-year since this blog entry. Everytime I see you taking that next step on the ladder, I am reminded of what you wrote almost a full year ago (:


Best of luck, remember to explore life as well as love StarCraft
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
September 21 2015 04:18 GMT
#13
Everything in moderation indeed


Nice blog <3
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Garemie
Profile Joined April 2011
United States248 Posts
September 21 2015 04:20 GMT
#14
Wow Nate, it's really awesome you shared this with us. I wish you the best of luck on your recovery and please, take all the time you need.

Also as someone who hopes to one day follow in your footsteps, these are good words to hear.
Bomber | CJ herO | Snute
etofok
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
138 Posts
September 21 2015 04:37 GMT
#15
just get your ass to the gym, it's a life changer you want / need, works like magic can confirm from firsthand experience
The king, the priest, the rich man—who lives and who dies? Who will the swordsman obey?
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
September 21 2015 06:34 GMT
#16
I love me some kappanias <3
also, root4root!

Your meteoric rise comes from that overboard commitment, just don't believe anyone who would tell you different.
That doesn't have to be you all the time though.. "the dude must abide!" jeffrey lobowski
"not enough rights"
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
September 21 2015 06:39 GMT
#17
On September 21 2015 13:18 KadaverBB wrote:
Everything in moderation indeed


Nice blog <3


Boy, was that a KBB Joke ? Wait.. yes ? Yes ! it is. And it's funnny !

OT : Good luck Nathanias. I got to gradually like you as a caster.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
mindjames
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Israel433 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 07:57:31
September 21 2015 07:46 GMT
#18
When you're doing computer stuff all day, every day, you normally start to feel guilty - for being socially and/or physically inactive.

By adding an esports job into the equation, you no longer have that sense of guilt, because being connected to the game is expected from you.

Don't fall into that trap. Stuff's gonna boomerang. Understand what you are deprived of and then go and fix it.

Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
September 21 2015 08:20 GMT
#19
If there's been any drama around you I've missed it, maybe that makes sense though since I stay away from reddit.
Well written blogg and it was very fun to get to know whats been going on with you and how you are feeling at the moment. I hope these realizations helps you get some balance in your life and that you get to a place were you not only feel happy but also feel that being connected to the scene is mainly a passion and seconary a job.
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 21 2015 09:28 GMT
#20
It'll just sort out now you're aware of it. Trying to maintain a healthier way of life is indeed a good decision ^^
IceNineSantaMonica
Profile Joined September 2015
3 Posts
September 21 2015 10:34 GMT
#21
Glad to hear you are better. You do you. Your aces in my book kiddo.
P.S. Amazing casting & predictions in wcs. you literal god you.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 21 2015 11:25 GMT
#22
I'm glad that you became aware of it. You're my absolute favorite caster, but I can't stand your streaming persona because of the toxicity, negativity and lack of courtesy with your opponents AND viewers.
revalence123
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States102 Posts
September 21 2015 14:05 GMT
#23
I think plenty of us can relate to some of the stuff you're dealing with man. Good to hear you managed the catch yourself before it screwed you completely. You're 100% right. Life is a balance and when things get outta whack, shit gets real talk.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-21 14:16:26
September 21 2015 14:16 GMT
#24
Hope other people listen to this story too and take note. Too much of one thing is always bad and moderation is needed for sanity reasons more than anything.

Good luck nate and keep happy!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
September 21 2015 15:27 GMT
#25
You the man, Nate! Will always support you dude. Good luck with everything in the future
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
September 21 2015 16:48 GMT
#26
what show did you watch?
KT FlaSh FOREVER
kottbullar
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia490 Posts
September 22 2015 04:23 GMT
#27
It's been amazing watching you grow from just another community caster into one of the absolute best. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that even if we have to see less of you, we'd rather that than see you burn out totally. Keep it up.
Ensley03
Profile Joined September 2015
1 Post
September 22 2015 07:10 GMT
#28
Not sure how much of this is genuine or just a panic move due to massive subscriber loss and reputation thrashing. I never talked much but I liked Nate at first, and by at first I mean when he had 8 viewers and was a pleb streamer. He was humble, funny, and interactive. The devolution into a 'dank memester who gives no fucks' was really off-putting.

Hopefully this is genuine, and we can look forward to some great LOTV streams.
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 14:35:00
September 22 2015 13:44 GMT
#29
Lol man, thats exactly what happened to me, i was so much into esports all day everyday that i get health and mental problems like insomnia for instance, my health still hasnt recovered fully and its been 2 years since problems started, so i guess i burned out. I was feeling more and more bad but still continued to be on the pc all day long. That thread should be warning to all the people with big dreams of esports carrier. Sport is about endurance, not everybody can play for 12 hours a day and if you want to train like the best but u cant, then better switch your career or play just for fun. Getting sick wont make you happy!
Switch mind activity with physical activity and rest, that will make you better at everything you do.
Luv ya BroodWar!
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 23:57:50
September 22 2015 23:57 GMT
#30
Great reminder for the community, there are other important things in life aside sc2.

I think you're not alone. I can remember when getting better at this game appeared to be all that mattered and the time I spent pushing to be a better player.

Balance is the one of the big keys to life. I returned to playing jazz guitar in the past year and devoted a lot of my gaming energy to playing music. I think it was such an important decision for me.

Here's to balance (not the patch kind ), Cheers!

Ps. you really good caster
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
September 23 2015 14:22 GMT
#31
Love your casting and commitment to the Sport\Game, and its good that you are moving towards a more balanced life. Keep up the good work
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 25 2015 07:07 GMT
#32
nathanias you're fucking awesome. you do you and we'll always support you.
can i get my estro logo back pls
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-26 01:45:31
September 26 2015 01:43 GMT
#33
This guys okay in my book. I guess being a Zerg player I don't watch his stream enough to know what is/ was going on. He's a great caster and seems like a nice enough guy. Seeing his streams a few times he was definitely saltier than I'd imagined ... But anyone that pretends like they are not salty after a losing streak in StarCraft is just pretending. Don't be to hard on yourself, nathanias. As and old guy I can say that when I was younger, and what I also notice in younger people, is that everything is a big deal. This was a big win or a big moment, and this is a sign of things to come, or oh this is super important - life is a lot more linear than it seems in your 20s. You make mistakes, you piss some people off, you genuinely fuck up, and you do some great shit too. Such is life. It's much the same for everyone. Just take it calm and easy.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1177 Posts
September 28 2015 08:22 GMT
#34
"All he does is spending his time in the internet looking for dank memes and anime"
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
September 28 2015 22:12 GMT
#35
May the Kappa Gods from Twitch heaven gaze upon you with favor brother Nathanias!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2220 Posts
October 10 2015 21:44 GMT
#36
Great blog. wishing you all the best
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-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
October 11 2015 18:14 GMT
#37
An important wake up call - glad you had it in time. It's awesome to work with something you're passionate about but it's also a risk. Hope you will find the balance that works for you!

Thanks for awesome casting!
~~(,,ºº>
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 15 2015 05:19 GMT
#38
Glad you're feeling better now! Sc2 definitely has the tendency to suck you in, and keep you there without you realizing you need to distance yourself and take a break. I've had it happen to me so many times in the past. I'd set a goal like, such as reaching a specific rank, and then pour my soul into the game. After a while, I quickly burn out, but I keep at it, thinking this is what hard work is. The best work comes when you learn balance, and it's relevant to everything in life!

Anyways, I look forward to seeing you on stream again, you are one of my favorite casters!
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
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