EPTThe best Brood War match in my memory - Page 2
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Probemicro
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On January 30 2015 18:16 Plexa wrote: If you removed all the context from the finals, those games were really bad. As someone coming into that series expecting a highly contested series similar to that epic Nal_ra vs Savior clash I was left very disappointed. Funny I never thought of that. But it's totally true. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On January 31 2015 17:14 Chill wrote: Funny I never thought of that. But it's totally true. that's just another way of saying bisu is awesome | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
edit: watched this shit live obviously | ||
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Miragee
8714 Posts
On February 01 2015 06:32 OneOther wrote: legendary thread, legendary series. bw was my childhood. it's crazy to think how one player in one series changed the way people approached the game. sair-dt was born, and the three hatch scourage into five hatch hydra followed as a counter to that. edit: watched this shit live obviously That also took a long while to come up. Players need their time to figure out a counter. I think throwing a bunch of balance patches at the game as soon as a new "OP" strategy arises is the wrong approach. A healthy meta game that shifts on it's own is beautiful and really creates memories and changes that remain as history. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
Anyway enough ranting. My favorite match was 2008 Ever OSL Finals, July vs Best, which can be seen here for those of you who haven't seen or would like to watch again: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On January 30 2015 16:38 Grobyc wrote: You know, I've never even watched that match in one straight go despite it being such a pivot for the PvZ revolution. I think I'll do that now  I've never watched it either LOL. Then again I'm a Z > T > P fanboy so... | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 31 2015 11:29 Probemicro wrote: i always wonder if savior had won that matchup instead, HOW would the rest of history had turned out differently? Protoss would continue to whine about late game PvZ for a couple more years before someone else finds another strategy or just a modification of the same one that Bisu used is my guess. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On January 30 2015 22:31 sCuMBaG wrote: I remember this game off Tempest. I think it was versus Light. Where he effectively won the match with 3 dragoons versus some sort of bunker rush offrax strat. that'll probably be the most memorable match i still have in mind. found it.. I remember this game. Was great to watch. So amusing. Nony eloquent and right as always. | ||
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don_kyuhote
3007 Posts
On February 01 2015 10:50 Dromar wrote: Anyway enough ranting. My favorite match was 2008 Ever OSL Finals, July vs Best, which can be seen here for those of you who haven't seen or would like to watch again: + Show Spoiler + This was the first OSL that I watched and the one that got me hooked to BW. I was not around to watch some of the "older" epics like the Iris vs GGPlay or Savior vs Bisu series, but there is something special about ones where it's the "first" for you. | ||
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Chill
Calgary26004 Posts
On February 01 2015 23:11 don_kyuhote wrote: This was the first OSL that I watched and the one that got me hooked to BW. I was not around to watch some of the "older" epics like the Iris vs GGPlay or Savior vs Bisu series, but there is something special about ones where it's the "first" for you. I remember watching that live too! In + Show Spoiler + game 3 when they pan to July's natural and show like 16 Ultas sitting there, I freaked out. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
Edit: I was watching the TL team play CSGO as I wrote this. Maybe these days aren't so bad either. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
I'm in the very small minority that dismisses anything Savior achieved in BW simply because he hurt BW which is something closely tied to my identity and youth so I'm glad this Bisu 3-0 happened to him. But watching it live I'd have to compare it to watching July's early OSL wins or his series vs Best. His superior understanding vs Best and unbending, relentless will to win in his first two OSL wins were incredible to watch like Bisu executing Sair-dt at the highest level on the grandest stage. There were a lot of jaw-drop moments in BW and these 2 were definitely among those. Glad to have watched it live. | ||
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
I also remember people giving Bisu a lot of shit for going on holiday to Thailand shortly before the finals, supposedly he needed more practice time  | ||
thedeadhaji
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Well played JWZ, well played.  | ||
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GoShox
United States1847 Posts
On February 01 2015 10:25 Miragee wrote: That also took a long while to come up. Players need their time to figure out a counter. I think throwing a bunch of balance patches at the game as soon as a new "OP" strategy arises is the wrong approach. A healthy meta game that shifts on it's own is beautiful and really creates memories and changes that remain as history. Yes! This combined with new maps coming out is one of the things I loved about BW. When the neo-sauron style that OneOther was talking about became popular, then Protoss had to come up with some new builds to counter that, which in turn Zerg had to find answers against. When Protoss players started doing strong attacks with Speedlots off of 2, 3, or 4 Gates to hit before the mass production of Hydras began, then the Zerg players had to find an answer to that, and they started positioning their buildings in a way to limit the effectiveness of these attacks, and so on. That's one of the many amazing things about Brood War to me, just how it developed over time. And I was far from a good player, especially compared to the pro gamers, but even just logging into iCCup and playing games and watching replays every day, I could see that development happening right in front of me. | ||
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koreasilver
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