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revalence123
United States102 Posts
Link To Parts List --> http://pcpartpicker.com/user/revalence123/saved/8YVG3C Please leave any reply on your thoughts on the build. I know I could have made more price cuts, but some of the stuff is just extra that I thought was worth it (the mechanical keyboard and the 80+ Gold PSU) NOTE: This is an edit of the original version so some comments may not make a who lot of sense.    | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
CPU - NO. Just NO. Get an i5, you can take one from the older generations, they can be found for ~30 dollars more than what you wanna spend, the 2500 is only 20%slower than the 4670, but still Of course you wanna switch out the Cooler once you change the CPU. Even if you don't wanna overlock, always a good choice to not go with standard cooling. Just personal preference, but I never had an asus board that survived the first two years. So far I am very happy with Gigabyte. The Ram is interresting. Taking 8gigs now leaves more slots open for later upgrades, but usually you wanna go for 2 times 4gig, they even sell them in bundles of two, because there is a technique where the mainboard alternates between your ramslots, effectivly doubling your ram access speed. (Most Mainboard ram slots even come color coded to see which 2 belong together) Storage, you need to know what you need. I could not live without a SSD today, even a small 128gig I'd prefer over a 1 TB. Just get an external TB drive for data storage like any normal human?^^, they aren't that expensive. Why go for the 750ti if the gtx660 costs the same and is faster? I mean you save power, but I think you live with your parents, so lol, their bill to pay. That powersupply is still on the low end, but even if you go for the 660 instead of 750 it should be sufficient. As for keyboards, personally I use brown switches myself. I'd suggest to go into an electronic store though and just test mechanical keyboards with different switches to see which switches you like most, it makes the biggest difference withing mechanical keyboards I think. Oh yeah, good job not cheaping out on the case either! :D Since you gonna build it yourself, get some cable straps to make everything neat inside that case. edit: For me a mechanical keyboard is worth it and makes sense, the cpu you picked, even if you overlock it using liquid nitrogen will be the slowest slow poke compared to any i5. edit2: Since you wanna go for overlocking(which I wouldn't except you start needing the additional speed), make yourself familiar with the i5 naming conventions, the last letter behind the number determines wether you can access the build in graphics, or overlock it, or both. edit3: I wasn't aware that Intel released a retro cpu in 2014, found out when I went to check if they even made 64bit pentiums so that you could use your ram at all. Were you aware that the G3258 is a limited edition GL HF and GZ :D | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany674 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On August 04 2014 17:30 HaRuHi wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Ok, sorry, that is totally out of the blue and I know it is an internetforum, but you talk about how you wanna get a job and all, just make sure you double check your spelling in your applications. CPU - NO. Just NO. Get an i5, you can take one from the older generations, they can be found for ~30 dollars more than what you wanna spend, the 2500 is only 20%slower than the 4670, but still Of course you wanna switch out the Cooler once you change the CPU. Even if you don't wanna overlock, always a good choice to not go with standard cooling. Just personal preference, but I never had an asus board that survived the first two years. So far I am very happy with Gigabyte. The Ram is interresting. Taking 8gigs now leaves more slots open for later upgrades, but usually you wanna go for 2 times 4gig, they even sell them in bundles of two, because there is a technique where the mainboard alternates between your ramslots, effectivly doubling your ram access speed. (Most Mainboard ram slots even come color coded to see which 2 belong together) Storage, you need to know what you need. I could not live without a SSD today, even a small 128gig I'd prefer over a 1 TB. Just get an external TB drive for data storage like any normal human?^^, they aren't that expensive. Why go for the 750ti if the gtx660 costs the same and is faster? I mean you save power, but I think you live with your parents, so lol, their bill to pay. That powersupply is still on the low end, but even if you go for the 660 instead of 750 it should be sufficient. As for keyboards, personally I use brown switches myself. I'd suggest to go into an electronic store though and just test mechanical keyboards with different switches to see which switches you like most, it makes the biggest difference withing mechanical keyboards I think. Oh yeah, good job not cheaping out on the case either! :D Since you gonna build it yourself, get some cable straps to make everything neat inside that case. edit: For me a mechanical keyboard is worth it and makes sense, the cpu you picked, even if you overlock it using liquid nitrogen will be the slowest slow poke compared to any i5. edit2: Since you wanna go for overlocking(which I wouldn't except you start needing the additional speed), make yourself familiar with the i5 naming conventions, the last letter behind the number determines wether you can access the build in graphics, or overlock it, or both. edit3: I wasn't aware that Intel released a retro cpu in 2014, found out when I went to check if they even made 64bit pentiums so that you could use your ram at all. Were you aware that the G3258 is a limited edition because they stopped making them after the first batch, cause they didn't sell and can't compete with any modern cpu? :p GL HF and GZ :D Sorry but HaRuHi has absolutely zero clue what he is talking about Intel Pentium G3258 is an overclockable Haswell where as a 2500k is an overclockable Sandybridge. The Pentium may be lacking two extra cores but it does have higher instructions per clock so it will perform better in tasks that do not make use of a third or fourth core. G3258 is a limited edition to celebrate 20 years of Pentium... please get your facts right. Pentiums and i5's use the same architecture, Pentiums are lacking some instruction sets and two cores but the two will be fairly similar on tasks that use one to two cores... they are in no way slow. Rosewill Capstone is in no way low-end. It's a rebranded Superflower Golden Green, which is one of the best there is when it comes to quality + value. The only things better like Leadex Platinums, Seasonic Platinums, etc, you'll end up paying like $50+ more for - which is simply not worth it for most people. Building computers as a hobby will not get you in the industry. Chances are HR won't even look at your resume because you will be unqualified. You need to get your A+ and get an entry level job at helpdesk or computer repair / support / blahblah. Once you have some experience, you can move onto getting your MCSA and MCSE. And let's face it, most people in the industry don't care about value, they want you to push products onto people. | ||
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aike
United States1629 Posts
If you are new to overclocking and stuff like that... Should be pretty helpful  My first "IT" job was at a call center doing Dell tech support I had my A+ certification from a class I took in school. After working there for about a year I was able to get a job at my local University's IT Help Desk where I got a lot of good experience and had a lot of room for good growth. So doing something along those lines is a good way to get into the business. While building your own PC isn't super important, it IS still important to know how to do, and it was something I was actually asked about in the interview for the IT Help Desk job  *edit* After reading your parts list, I think I would go for 2x4GB over 1x8GB. You can get BETTER RAM for about the same cost, plus you'll be able to take advantage of dual channel. I know you want the 1x8GB for the potential to upgrade to 16GB in the future, but I think the cost/benefit of it isn't as great as 2x4GB. | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
I mean if he wants to fool around with it, sure go for it. And it even holds its own in some games + it is defnitly cheaper. I think it depends on how you are going to use it. I assumed that the third and fourth core also helps if you happen to run mutliple applications concurrently on a modern OS. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
450W is a bit too low for me personally for modern hardware + OC. 2GB vram is low if you want to use it for a few years. | ||
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revalence123
United States102 Posts
On August 06 2014 22:49 LaNague wrote: i dont see the mainboard. 450W is a bit too low for me personally for modern hardware + OC. 2GB vram is low if you want to use it for a few years. Trust me I am aware of all these things, I really want a GTX 760, and I honestly I don't intend to OC way to much so it should be fine (probably a 0.5 OC) and honestly I think the 450 is gonna be plenty for a while unless I get a 770 or the AMD equivalent. Also that motherboard is this http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9105992&SRCCODE=WEBGOO0163C&gclid=Cj0KEQjw3vyeBRDt673h5ZTYrdQBEiQAzhkf8s2mUr0AjIcJdyhmXs2fbqJXa10fCC0IIVjnnimsmoMaAoLT8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds Add Another Custom Part I had to add it seperately to the list it was at the bottom =P | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
I dont know if those parts have that, one thing to think about. | ||
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revalence123
United States102 Posts
On August 06 2014 21:35 HaRuHi wrote: Yupp, don't listen to me. Still most magazines testing it overlocked from 3.2GHz to 4.7~4.8GHz can't reach the performance of a non-overlocked i5-2500k in most applications. Overlocking also has a tendency to shorten the hardware's life. I mean if he wants to fool around with it, sure go for it. And it even holds its own in some games + it is defnitly cheaper. I think it depends on how you are going to use it. I assumed that the third and fourth core also helps if you happen to run mutliple applications concurrently on a modern OS. Honestly, I would prefer to have an i5, but his is really a budget build so I figure it is worth the risk of overclocking it. I am not going to do a crazy 4.7 overclock, but I will juice it up a bit. I will be using this for A LOT of gaming, but I don't intend on pushing it too hard. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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