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United States23455 Posts
On July 13 2014 00:25 puppykiller wrote:
Also it is so annoying how mods will just post really self-righteous criticisms and circle jerk posts in threads all the time as if there opinions mattered at all because some people on TL decided to give them a fancy icon and banning power.
If you're allowed to share this opinion it stands to reason they should be allowed to share theirs right? Also I don't see them posting, "self-righteous criticism" or "circle jerk posts" much but perhaps I'm not as vigilant as you.
Anyways lets not derail Nina's blog
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There's a lot of hypocrisy in people who tell others not to judge based on the skin of another person, male/female, racially, whatever.
The entire world still is full of judgement and bandwagoning based on a person's skin via one particular role: Chronological age of the cells of the person's body. As long as ageism exists, anyone who claims not to be reactionary to people based on their skin or gender is a hypocrite.
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I am in nerdlove with Ninazerg
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On July 12 2014 16:05 LuckyFool wrote:
I was reading this then suddenly thought I saw myself as the first reply and got really confused.
also, optical flare builds tvz were the best. there was a tvp version too where you blind all obs, I think it was done in a pro game once, I want to say upmagic did it. or maybe sea
I recall it being done on Match Point with the Terran at the 1o'clock spawn. I'm inclined to say it was either Upmagic or an MBC Terran. And I believe it was a win too. I feel compelled to find the game now :/
But yeah, didn't appear to take long for this to get derailed.
edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/111343-swl-samsung-khan-vs-cj-entus?page=24#467
yeah there was a couple games apparently.
edit2: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/35239_Light_vs_Pure/vod
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. go figure, I made the LR thread for that night x)
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The only optical flare tvp on mp that comes to mind for me is Really vs Jangbi.
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Foolishness
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On July 13 2014 05:29 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 16:05 LuckyFool wrote:
I was reading this then suddenly thought I saw myself as the first reply and got really confused.
also, optical flare builds tvz were the best. there was a tvp version too where you blind all obs, I think it was done in a pro game once, I want to say upmagic did it. or maybe sea But yeah, didn't appear to take long for this to get derailed.
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Pretty sure this thread is about the use of optical flare to blind others from seeing the truth about a situation.
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On July 12 2014 22:11 Capped wrote:
but none of your descriptions of the pyrionflax reaction match me :<
CUZ YOU DIDN'T BANDWAGON... or did you? I forget now.
On July 13 2014 01:22 Paljas wrote:
ninazerg funny
I accept your compliment.
On July 13 2014 00:47 TotalBiscuit wrote:
1) Find something I was actually wrong on
This one time, you thought you were wrong, but you were actually right, paradoxically making you wrong for the first time.
On July 13 2014 05:11 tenacity wrote:
I am in nerdlove with Ninazerg
hi
On July 13 2014 07:49 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 05:29 Grobyc wrote:On July 12 2014 16:05 LuckyFool wrote:
I was reading this then suddenly thought I saw myself as the first reply and got really confused.
also, optical flare builds tvz were the best. there was a tvp version too where you blind all obs, I think it was done in a pro game once, I want to say upmagic did it. or maybe sea But yeah, didn't appear to take long for this to get derailed. ? Pretty sure this thread is about the use of optical flare to blind others from seeing the truth about a situation.
There was actually a game recently in the Crimson Starleague where  Radley used an optical flare to blind a shuttle with a reaver in it. It was pretty dope. Here is the replay, if you're interested:
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=55700
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I didn't see my name mentioned in that thread so thank you for bringing it to my attention, 5/5 would read again.
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It didn't really pull me in and make me want to read it, though I did read the quotes.
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Sarcasm on this website either hits me like a brick or is totally lost on me. Subtlety is masterful art on the inter webs.
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On July 13 2014 14:31 kushm4sta wrote:
It didn't really pull me in and make me want to read it, though I did read the quotes.
Good, I see you're not the "reading" bandwagon. People who read are the worst.
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There's a lot of hypocrisy in people who tell others not to judge based on the skin of another person, male/female, racially, whatever.
The entire world still is full of judgement and bandwagoning based on a person's skin via one particular role: Chronological age of the cells of the person's body.
From your first sentence you make it sound like almost everyone engages in ageism as other wise there wouldn't neccessarily be hypocrisy in calling out others for judging based on skim traits
I'll bite and ask why you think most everyone engages in what you term ageism. This is not my experience, though of course plenty of people do.
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Aww, but now I'm confused about what your actual position is. Starts off with
However, that's neither here nor there. The fact is, bandwagoning pisses me off. If you have bandwagoned, you are stupid, and your whole family is stupid, and your cat is stupid. That's how stupid you are, you dumb stupid head
Okay, so bandwagoning is bad. But then we have le paradox
Now, you have to ask yourself: "Do I jump on the bandwagon and say I agree with this post?"
And how do we get around the paradox? With
Thanks for the question, Captain Strawman, defender of logic and reason.
Which I'm confused about, because saying a positon a paradoxical doesn't seem to be a strawman argument. And we also have
If you are going to bandwagon, it is better than you do it in a positive way rather than in a negative way.
Which makes it sound like it's bad to bandwagon, but better to do it one way than the other. But that still doesn't get out of your paradox, I think, because you still make it sound like it's always unintelligent to bandwagon.
But in any event, I'm still confused about your original definition of bandwagoning.
The act of consciously or subconsciously following a majority opinion or authority or 'expert' opinion without thinking too hard about it.
I mean, don't you do that every day? Don't you trust that planes fly, that cars don't (usually) suddenly stop working, that technology "works", because experts told you that it would work (the first time, before you were able to justify it based off of personal experience)? I would think that following an expert's opinion on an issue would be better than following my own opinion on that issue- after all, his expertise speaks to his greater knowledge and intellect in that area, and why would I assume I have thought it out better than they?
+ Show Spoiler +5/5, the random tangents mid-sentence are what make it for me
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TLADT24920 Posts
Good post however I do not agree due to the aforementioned reasons:
Bandwagoning is a way of life. Think of it as a plant. The first person to post is main source then it spreads deeply like roots until it gets to the core. It gives one a sense of belonging to something great by bandwagoning and as we all know, external approval is the number one thing people strive for on internet forums!
To top that off, if I agree, I'm technically bandwagoning seeing others agree with it which means:
"you are stupid, and your whole family is stupid, and your cat is stupid."
I don't have a cat so we can ignore that part lol however I'll just say no and leave it at that 
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On July 13 2014 16:01 soon.Cloak wrote:Aww, but now I'm confused about what your actual position is. Starts off with Show nested quote +However, that's neither here nor there. The fact is, bandwagoning pisses me off. If you have bandwagoned, you are stupid, and your whole family is stupid, and your cat is stupid. That's how stupid you are, you dumb stupid head Okay, so bandwagoning is bad. But then we have le paradox Show nested quote +Now, you have to ask yourself: "Do I jump on the bandwagon and say I agree with this post?" And how do we get around the paradox? With Which I'm confused about, because saying a positon a paradoxical doesn't seem to be a strawman argument. And we also have Show nested quote +If you are going to bandwagon, it is better than you do it in a positive way rather than in a negative way. Which makes it sound like it's bad to bandwagon, but better to do it one way than the other. But that still doesn't get out of your paradox, I think, because you still make it sound like it's always unintelligent to bandwagon. But in any event, I'm still confused about your original definition of bandwagoning. Show nested quote +The act of consciously or subconsciously following a majority opinion or authority or 'expert' opinion without thinking too hard about it. I mean, don't you do that every day? Don't you trust that planes fly, that cars don't (usually) suddenly stop working, that technology "works", because experts told you that it would work (the first time, before you were able to justify it based off of personal experience)? I would think that following an expert's opinion on an issue would be better than following my own opinion on that issue- after all, his expertise speaks to his greater knowledge and intellect in that area, and why would I assume I have thought it out better than they? + Show Spoiler +5/5, the random tangents mid-sentence are what make it for me
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, and I'll answer the best I can without fucking up too much. Bandwagoning is really something that we all do, whether it be seldom done, or frequently engaged in. You can see a bunch of people going a certain direction and be like "Well, shit, I'm going with them." For example, if you went to church and you and your church friends were talking about gay people, and they're like "Being gay is a sin." and you try to argue with them, and then they just whip out a Bible and go "Here, Romans, chapter 1, says being gay is unnatural and is caused by sin." so you just go "Well, I guess you guys are right." because you have a source of authority and the opinions of your friends correlating with that opinion, so you just roll with it. And trust me, that actually happens.
The thing about bandwagoning is that it is not fact-based, i.e., aircraft having the ability to fly given the correct amount of propulsion to create lift, because planes can fly. That's just a fact. If someone said "Oh no, that thing definitely can't fly." you'd be like "Trust me dude, it can fly." and he's not gonna be able to refute you, like if the front wheel comes off on the runway as the plane is accelerating and then it tips over, flips over, explodes into flames, your friend isn't going be like "Pssh, see, I told you so." cuz he's going to be on fire and dead.
An opinion would be like "I think Applejack is the best pony." and then some brony comes up to you and goes "Nuh uh, Rainbow Dash is the best." and even though you both stated your opinions as facts, neither are actually factual, except that Rainbow Dash probably is the best pony ever.
But you know, on the internet, everyone is mean and nasty and we're kinda just "used to it", because it's really easy to just be a jerk and then forget you ever did anything. I'm not saying "Be nice blindly without regard to context" otherwise you'll be telling like pedophiles "Keep doing what you're doing! You're awesome!" but if you feel like you must bandwagon, then I'm just saying jump on one that is there to be nice to someone. You might find out later that the person you were nice to has an olympic-sized swimming pool filled to the brim with dead babies, but that's not on you. You just wanted to be positive. I mean, nobody has to take my advice, because it's not like you're going to burn in hell if you don't do what I say, so there's really no paradox if you understand where I'm coming from.
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On July 13 2014 16:08 BigFan wrote:
Good post
Thanks.
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Nice read fun
You have such strongly established opinions all the time wow
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5/5. actually laughed. congratulations. <3
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On July 13 2014 16:29 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2014 16:01 soon.Cloak wrote:Aww, but now I'm confused about what your actual position is. Starts off with However, that's neither here nor there. The fact is, bandwagoning pisses me off. If you have bandwagoned, you are stupid, and your whole family is stupid, and your cat is stupid. That's how stupid you are, you dumb stupid head Okay, so bandwagoning is bad. But then we have le paradox Now, you have to ask yourself: "Do I jump on the bandwagon and say I agree with this post?" And how do we get around the paradox? With Thanks for the question, Captain Strawman, defender of logic and reason. Which I'm confused about, because saying a positon a paradoxical doesn't seem to be a strawman argument. And we also have If you are going to bandwagon, it is better than you do it in a positive way rather than in a negative way. Which makes it sound like it's bad to bandwagon, but better to do it one way than the other. But that still doesn't get out of your paradox, I think, because you still make it sound like it's always unintelligent to bandwagon. But in any event, I'm still confused about your original definition of bandwagoning. The act of consciously or subconsciously following a majority opinion or authority or 'expert' opinion without thinking too hard about it. I mean, don't you do that every day? Don't you trust that planes fly, that cars don't (usually) suddenly stop working, that technology "works", because experts told you that it would work (the first time, before you were able to justify it based off of personal experience)? I would think that following an expert's opinion on an issue would be better than following my own opinion on that issue- after all, his expertise speaks to his greater knowledge and intellect in that area, and why would I assume I have thought it out better than they? + Show Spoiler +5/5, the random tangents mid-sentence are what make it for me Thanks for the thoughtful reply, and I'll answer the best I can without fucking up too much. Bandwagoning is really something that we all do, whether it be seldom done, or frequently engaged in. You can see a bunch of people going a certain direction and be like "Well, shit, I'm going with them." For example, if you went to church and you and your church friends were talking about gay people, and they're like "Being gay is a sin." and you try to argue with them, and then they just whip out a Bible and go "Here, Romans, chapter 1, says being gay is unnatural and is caused by sin." so you just go "Well, I guess you guys are right." because you have a source of authority and the opinions of your friends correlating with that opinion, so you just roll with it. And trust me, that actually happens. The thing about bandwagoning is that it is not fact-based, i.e., aircraft having the ability to fly given the correct amount of propulsion to create lift, because planes can fly. That's just a fact. If someone said "Oh no, that thing definitely can't fly." you'd be like "Trust me dude, it can fly." and he's not gonna be able to refute you, like if the front wheel comes off on the runway as the plane is accelerating and then it tips over, flips over, explodes into flames, your friend isn't going be like "Pssh, see, I told you so." cuz he's going to be on fire and dead. An opinion would be like "I think Applejack is the best pony." and then some brony comes up to you and goes "Nuh uh, Rainbow Dash is the best." and even though you both stated your opinions as facts, neither are actually factual, except that Rainbow Dash probably is the best pony ever. But you know, on the internet, everyone is mean and nasty and we're kinda just "used to it", because it's really easy to just be a jerk and then forget you ever did anything. I'm not saying "Be nice blindly without regard to context" otherwise you'll be telling like pedophiles "Keep doing what you're doing! You're awesome!" but if you feel like you must bandwagon, then I'm just saying jump on one that is there to be nice to someone. You might find out later that the person you were nice to has an olympic-sized swimming pool filled to the brim with dead babies, but that's not on you. You just wanted to be positive. I mean, nobody has to take my advice, because it's not like you're going to burn in hell if you don't do what I say, so there's really no paradox if you understand where I'm coming from.
Mhm, fair enough. There's other stuff to discuss, I think, but I think I agree with your main point. And ya, how you explain it now, no paradox.
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