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FLUFFNSTUFF
United States51 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
Why do we fall down Fluff  To get back up. Glad to see Liquid getting back up and starting to play to their, and your, potential. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19347 Posts
 LIQUID FIGHTING! | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
wait does this new post reset the post-blog winrate | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:12 andyrau wrote: wait does this new post reset the post-blog winrate noooooo | ||
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climax
United States1088 Posts
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Bryce241
Zimbabwe80 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:04 Shaella wrote: To quote batman Why do we fall down Fluff To get back up. Glad to see Liquid getting back up and starting to play to their, and your, potential. CLARIFICATION: You are actually quoting Dr. Thomas Wayne (Batman's Dad), who would later be repeated later by Alfred (this is all in Batman Begins). Just wanted to point it out so that we all get the full effect of your quote, as it occurs at two pivotal moments in the story. (Ah, who am I kidding. I just look for any excuse to talk about Batman Begins quotes )But back on topic - time for Liquid to rise again! #Liquidrising | ||
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URLateral
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Caladbolg
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
First post in the thread is a quote from Batman. We are all pretty dorky and its kinda great. Glad you got your grove back Fluff. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:23 Jacmert wrote: CLARIFICATION: You are actually quoting Dr. Thomas Wayne (Batman's Dad), who would later be repeated later by Alfred (this is all in Batman Begins). Just wanted to point it out so that we all get the full effect of your quote, as it occurs at two pivotal moments in the story. (Ah, who am I kidding. I just look for any excuse to talk about Batman Begins quotes )But back on topic - time for Liquid to rise again! #Liquidrising I guess i should have quoted from 'batman begins' | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:25 Plansix wrote: Epic blog about how he is going to do better at video games. First post in the thread is a quote from Batman. We are all pretty dorky and its kinda great. Glad you got your grove back Fluff. It doesn't matter where the quote is from, what matters is Fluff's plan! | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:25 Shaella wrote: I guess i should have quoted from 'batman begins' I figured later that you probably meant the movie, rather than the character, heheh But any excuse to nerd-out on Batman Begins quotes is good enough for me! | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
or is there no one really assigned to manage team dynamics and maintain morale? I guess it's good that there is healing. | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:27 TanGeng wrote: I guess one question that gnaws at me is "who's the team manager and where has he been?" or is there no one really assigned to manage team dynamics and maintain morale? I guess it's good that there is healing. I think it is/used to be bumblebee. I used to see him post/tweet about dota stuff all the time, but not so much anymore. But a lot of being a manager is in the background, so who knows. | ||
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
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URLateral
275 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:41 Saryph wrote: I think it is/used to be bumblebee. I used to see him post/tweet about dota stuff all the time, but not so much anymore. But a lot of being a manager is in the background, so who knows. yes bumblebee is still the manager he just manages both the sc2 team and dota 2 team so hes pretty busy | ||
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beesinyoface
2450 Posts
thanks | ||
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tili
United States1332 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:23 Jacmert wrote: CLARIFICATION: You are actually quoting Dr. Thomas Wayne (Batman's Dad), who would later be repeated later by Alfred (this is all in Batman Begins). Just wanted to point it out so that we all get the full effect of your quote, as it occurs at two pivotal moments in the story. (Ah, who am I kidding. I just look for any excuse to talk about Batman Begins quotes )But back on topic - time for Liquid to rise again! #Liquidrising Mmmm, moar batman please. Good of you to follow up, Fluff. I don't watch Dota, but I hope liquid succeeds in all it's endeavors. | ||
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yyfpulls
United States2185 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote: This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts. damn son you got told B L O G B O Y S | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
hopefully this 2nd chance given to you will work out fine and liquid will come out stronger as a whole! | ||
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thragar
Canada450 Posts
Also, what happened vs. Revenge tonight? =( | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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fascistfromhell
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ctypewriter
63 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
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flamewheel
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Leeoku
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
Honestly, after this and the recent results, Liquids TI4 run starts now, not in July. Prove you belong. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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Engdrew
United States890 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote: This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts. Comes off to YOU as needy. It comes to me as cathartic. Why not let him be? Don't impose your way of being onto others, it's dull. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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Breaker 1st Class
Australia47 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote: This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts. 1) Fluff and Envy are two different people. 2) It's not like Fluff is only just talk. He's backing it up with the appropriate 'walk' as well, as detailed by steps and actions he's outlined in the post. We don't know if he will fail or succeed, but you can't deny he is also actively trying. So really, he has already taken the metaphorical page from Envy. We have to give things time to play out. 3) Like you've said yourself; there IS a need for him to explain himself. You can interpret Fluff's post as simply needy, or you can also understand that there is no doubt many of us who want clarification on certain matters affecting the team as a whole. This spotlight, for better or worse, shines on the entire team as much as it does on Fluff himself. To imply Fluff's post serves only himself would indicate tunnel vision about the whole situation. Although on the surface this is an apology from Fluff, it is also a PR statement for his team and liquid as an organisation as well. Fluff's post is part explanation about himself and part the collective voice of his team clarifying their intent, future and direction together. Actions are powerful, but that's not to discount the importance of 'talk'/explanations/clarifications. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is better that they go hand in hand as it minimises the scope of speculation and conjecture and really serves as a rallying force and voice for those who do support liquid. In any case, I'm glad it's all sorted out. Fight on, Fluff! Fight on, Liquid! | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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DarthBotto
United States72 Posts
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sandg
Australia123 Posts
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TheBamf
Denmark366 Posts
#GoGoTeamLiquid | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Flowsick
Estonia234 Posts
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speakerbox
Canada453 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:30 Dubzex wrote: #BringKorokBack I think this would actually work strongly in Liquids favor | ||
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Krishan.bif
Philippines491 Posts
On March 18 2014 15:14 Breaker 1st Class wrote: 1) Fluff and Envy are two different people. 2) It's not like Fluff is only just talk. He's backing it up with the appropriate 'walk' as well, as detailed by steps and actions he's outlined in the post. We don't know if he will fail or succeed, but you can't deny he is also actively trying. So really, he has already taken the metaphorical page from Envy. We have to give things time to play out. 3) Like you've said yourself; there IS a need for him to explain himself. You can interpret Fluff's post as simply needy, or you can also understand that there is no doubt many of us who want clarification on certain matters affecting the team as a whole. This spotlight, for better or worse, shines on the entire team as much as it does on Fluff himself. To imply Fluff's post serves only himself would indicate tunnel vision about the whole situation. Although on the surface this is an apology from Fluff, it is also a PR statement for his team and liquid as an organisation as well. Fluff's post is part explanation about himself and part the collective voice of his team clarifying their intent, future and direction together. Actions are powerful, but that's not to discount the importance of 'talk'/explanations/clarifications. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is better that they go hand in hand as it minimises the scope of speculation and conjecture and really serves as a rallying force and voice for those who do support liquid. In any case, I'm glad it's all sorted out. Fight on, Fluff! Fight on, Liquid! This. This 1000%. All their losses and failures in the last couple of months have really demoralized and almost alienated their supporters it seemed (i.e., me). This might have been a mess at the beginning, and it might have hurt some people in the process although not deliberately, but nazgul's response and fluff manning up to it has at least shed light to the teams struggles, and it is very comforting to know that they are taking MASSIVE steps to curbing the problems. Good luck everyone, and yes, see you guys in TI4. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
Regardless, good luck! | ||
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:41 Saryph wrote: I think it is/used to be bumblebee. I used to see him post/tweet about dota stuff all the time, but not so much anymore. But a lot of being a manager is in the background, so who knows. I still manage Liquid, but I've strayed from posting a whole lot :-) | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
Best of luck. I hope you prove me wrong. And I think maybe you should consider not writing blogs wherein you describe what you intend to do - you're just making unrealistic goals for us and for yourself. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On March 18 2014 21:05 Testuser wrote: I still find supporting Liquid hard after your last blogpost. I don't think you'll change, and I just see this blogpost as new false promises. Best of luck. I hope you prove me wrong[...] I've got to second this. You broke our trust, win it back. | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
because imagine you were kicked? what would you do? who wants some not that skilled guy (compared to the big skillers in NA,EU and especially china) who is all about being the savior of his team leading them to glory with visions and epic leadership to stand there and smile in his shiny armor. for me most of this blog is just damage control like people always do when they are closed to being kicked.and of course your typical 1000 promises and ideas that will revolutionize EVERYTHING. how about just the damage control apology and instead of the rest you just show actions? you know like real actions, making your team own and not your old habits. not things like "will do this, and that,sacrifces here there and bridges! communication,best version of team EVA.". like i said thank god everyday and get your shit together. best of luck for your team | ||
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GranDGranT
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
But, maybe, in the end, it will turn out to have been a good decision to post what you did before. What if the team as a whole would have been unable to get the motivation/boost required to achieve a TI4 victory from purely internal "decent" & "by the book" communications? Sometimes a child (a new team) needs a good kick in the arse to get going properly. The way you guys are dealing with your previous outburst makes me think that this is exactly what needed to be done. Like some people say: sometimes you need to act now and ask for permission later. There are more ways and potentionally better ways to phrase this, I will refrain from trying to find them all. I am sure people have said this before. | ||
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kvothe0153
3 Posts
You've certainly grown up in the past few days, hopefully this will soon reflect in TL's gameplay. Cheers and GoodLuck! | ||
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kvothe0153
3 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:14 a_flayer wrote: Ok first off, I have not really read anything aside from what Nazgul said. You are waaay too wordy for my tastes XD But, maybe, in the end, it will turn out to have been a good decision to post what you did before. What if the team as a whole would have been unable to get the motivation/boost required to achieve a TI4 victory from purely internal "decent" & "by the book" communications? Sometimes a child (a new team) needs a good kick in the arse to get going properly. The way you guys are dealing with your previous outburst makes me think that this is exactly what needed to be done. Like some people say: sometimes you need to act now and ask for permission later. There are more ways and potentionally better ways to phrase this, I will refrain from trying to find them all. I am sure people have said this before. How i agree with you man | ||
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Targe
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RoxasNL
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Bam Lee
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On March 18 2014 23:14 a_flayer wrote: Ok first off, I have not really read anything aside from what Nazgul said. You are waaay too wordy for my tastes XD But, maybe, in the end, it will turn out to have been a good decision to post what you did before. What if the team as a whole would have been unable to get the motivation/boost required to achieve a TI4 victory from purely internal "decent" & "by the book" communications? Sometimes a child (a new team) needs a good kick in the arse to get going properly. The way you guys are dealing with your previous outburst makes me think that this is exactly what needed to be done. Like some people say: sometimes you need to act now and ask for permission later. There are more ways and potentionally better ways to phrase this, I will refrain from trying to find them all. I am sure people have said this before. I dont feel like it was necessary to make all of this public.He could have written all of that to his teammates/TL management and it would have been the same. The management could have then found a way to make all of this public without unnecessary drama and emotions. Like just writing down who drafts/calls etc. and with reasoning why it is done. It is just unnecessary tension and makes the other members of TL feel uncomfortable if he posts something like this. But whatever, Just do what it takes to make your words more than just empty words and manage to qualify for TI4. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
now can all you diary huggers get off his back, or what? can we get some fresh blood into the TL dota 2 team, or not? if you ask me, bulba's their only good player. fluff is still young though so there's the possibility he could improve. i'm not sure if he's genuinely a nice guy or if it's an act. if he is nice, he might be worth hanging on to. but the rest of the team for sure isn't worth hanging onto other than bulba. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Thieving Magpie
United States6752 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:26 Jacmert wrote: It doesn't matter where the quote is from, what matters is Fluff's plan! Can't be helped + Show Spoiler + | ||
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dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
It's good to be really introspective when shit gets hairy in a team environment. It's easier to blame people than to look at oneself and ask "What am I doing wrong? What can I do to make things better? Where do I fit in, and what are my strengths and weaknesses?". You become a much more powerful asset to your team when you focus on your job. | ||
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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
I don't understand why some are offended by these recent posts though. Fluff has always been like this, and we all saw Liquid tanking so it isn't so surprising that he'll share his thoughts on something that important. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On March 19 2014 04:09 Fake)Plants wrote: I don't understand why some are offended by these recent posts though. People are generally quite good at finding a reason to be angry on the Internet, or focusing incessantly on a single negative aspect of an otherwise positive event. Hell, sometimes they don't even need a reason to be mad. Granted, FLUFF did fuck up by letting impulse and emotion override his responsibilities toward Nazgul and to his teammates. But it takes personal strength to admit you fucked up and to continually work toward erasing further mistakes, and that is something I feel FLUFF will do (and has done) most admirably. Reminds me of that old quote about how people will remember an individual not for his many successes, but for his single failure. | ||
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VIPrandom
Canada25 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
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aldochillbro
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
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Grettin
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
and if you're looking for some other good audiobooks, I highly recommend "Mastery" by Robert Greene. You can listen to it for free via Amazon's new service Audible. It's the only thing I play in the car, and by the time I commute anywhere I'm super focused. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
Gl, hf. | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 18 2014 15:28 MirageTaN wrote: TI4 would be nothing without Liquid. Liquid is the only reason why I came to Dota 2 from SC2 , sure other teams are flashy in plays and win the biggest tourney but Liquid- there is something about them that keeps me following despite continuous failures. I believe that this is the turning point TI4 is nothing without liquid? oh god | ||
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Trustworthy-Tony
Tanzania187 Posts
You're so ambitious for a juvenile. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Pretty sure he means TI4 would be nothing for him without Liquid as they are the main team he supports and follows. | ||
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Trustworthy-Tony
Tanzania187 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 21 2014 05:47 Firebolt145 wrote: Pretty sure he means TI4 would be nothing for him without Liquid as they are the main team he supports and follows. i feel sad for him then, that he wont get to experience TI4. liquid probably not even making it there with their current play | ||
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werynais
Germany1780 Posts
On March 21 2014 09:28 vult wrote: Stay positive, keep fighting man! We're all rooting for you! Who exactly? Most people are in fact NOT rooting for him or the team. | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
On March 21 2014 22:14 werynais wrote: Who exactly? Most people are in fact NOT rooting for him or the team. To be clear, I'm not rooting for TC or any team he is on. I consider him to be a toxic player. | ||
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Firebolt145
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Sn0_Man
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
On March 21 2014 22:58 Firebolt145 wrote: Woah what did TC do to be considered 'toxic' When Fluff talks about him(on twitch.tv) I can just tell, like how he gets angry when Fluff suggests drafting certain heroes or trying different strategies. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Seriously, if we were to construct a toxicity scale for Dota players, TC would be at the very bottom. I don't think he's ever flamed anyone for as long as he's been playing Dota 2. He's actually like the most mannered professional player. | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
On March 23 2014 06:04 AwfuL_ wrote:Seriously, if we were to construct a toxicity scale for Dota players, TC would be at the very bottom. I don't think he's ever flamed anyone for as long as he's been playing Dota 2. He's actually like the most mannered professional player. You don't have to flame people to be toxic. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Well done ignoring the rest of my post! | ||
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dcttr66
United States555 Posts
You could drink soda until your teeth all rot out. You enjoy drinking the soda. Does the fact that you enjoy that soda automatically mean that the soda is not toxic for you? In the same way, just because TC and Fluff enjoy playing together, that doesn't automatically mean it is good for Fluff's career to be playing with him. | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
lmao you're basing your entire judgment of somebody's character off your own extrapolation of an anecdote sourced from an emotionally tilted individual please, tell us more | ||
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lamprey1
Canada919 Posts
On March 18 2014 11:23 Jacmert wrote: CLARIFICATION: You are actually quoting Dr. Thomas Wayne (Batman's Dad), who would later be repeated later by Alfred (this is all in Batman Begins). Just wanted to point it out so that we all get the full effect of your quote, as it occurs at two pivotal moments in the story. (Ah, who am I kidding. I just look for any excuse to talk about Batman Begins quotes )But back on topic - time for Liquid to rise again! #Liquidrising Batman Begins is the greatest movie in the history of anything, anywhere. i support TL because of the web site and liquipedia. i don't really associate the competence of the TL organization with how the pro players perform at tournaments. currently i rate liquipedia's recording of competitive SC2 events.. on a scale from 1 to 10 ... as a 10. its great. if liquipedia slipped to being only 9 out of 10 .. i really could care less if some TL pro player won 3 GSL's in a row. i'm sure the players are crushed when they lose. but, it does not alter the strength of the TL brand from my point of view. | ||
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The Binary Son
United States207 Posts
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - consider making an appointment or two (ask friends/parents who are doctors or nurses for referrals or just google some in your area) and just go from there. Even if you don't have a G.A.D. it won't be wasted money - better to try and find out you don't need it than never try it when you really need help. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On March 27 2014 08:59 HeeroFX wrote: So now that you are relased from Liquid why do you have a special liquid icon still? Uh cause maybe it was only a day ago that he left? Just a shot in the dark guess on that one. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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