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URLateral
Profile Joined October 2012
275 Posts
March 18 2014 02:55 GMT
#21
On March 18 2014 11:41 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 11:27 TanGeng wrote:
I guess one question that gnaws at me is "who's the team manager and where has he been?"

or is there no one really assigned to manage team dynamics and maintain morale?

I guess it's good that there is healing.


I think it is/used to be bumblebee. I used to see him post/tweet about dota stuff all the time, but not so much anymore. But a lot of being a manager is in the background, so who knows.

yes bumblebee is still the manager he just manages both the sc2 team and dota 2 team so hes pretty busy
beesinyoface
Profile Joined May 2012
2450 Posts
March 18 2014 03:09 GMT
#22
just start winning some games

thanks
aaaaa
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
March 18 2014 03:10 GMT
#23
On March 18 2014 11:23 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 11:04 Shaella wrote:
To quote batman

Why do we fall down Fluff

To get back up.

Glad to see Liquid getting back up and starting to play to their, and your, potential.

CLARIFICATION: You are actually quoting Dr. Thomas Wayne (Batman's Dad), who would later be repeated later by Alfred (this is all in Batman Begins). Just wanted to point it out so that we all get the full effect of your quote, as it occurs at two pivotal moments in the story. (Ah, who am I kidding. I just look for any excuse to talk about Batman Begins quotes )

But back on topic - time for Liquid to rise again! #Liquidrising



Mmmm, moar batman please.

Good of you to follow up, Fluff. I don't watch Dota, but I hope liquid succeeds in all it's endeavors.
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
March 18 2014 03:14 GMT
#24
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote:
This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts.

damn son you got told
B L O G B O Y S
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
March 18 2014 03:21 GMT
#25
fluff i am glad you realised what you did is just plain wrong.

hopefully this 2nd chance given to you will work out fine and liquid will come out stronger as a whole!
Mew Mew Pew Pew
thragar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada450 Posts
March 18 2014 03:23 GMT
#26
I really love how you put everything out there, even if it was a little hasty. Believe in each other and win with the power of friendship!

Also, what happened vs. Revenge tonight? =(
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 18 2014 03:25 GMT
#27
GL fluff, and please, keep this mindset going man!
fascistfromhell
Profile Joined September 2012
1689 Posts
March 18 2014 03:48 GMT
#28
I'm glad you decided to do the right thing.
Rebuild TL Dota.
ctypewriter
Profile Joined December 2011
63 Posts
March 18 2014 03:49 GMT
#29
Glad you got everything figured out, looking forward to good results.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
March 18 2014 03:58 GMT
#30
Thank you for your words. Now it's time to prove what you're truly capable of through action. Good luck FLUFF.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 18 2014 04:15 GMT
#31
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
March 18 2014 04:25 GMT
#32
I 100% support u fluff. The internal things you posted in your blog were very insightful as to qualities of a strong leader and the internal struggles. Sure some of the rage could have been put down but luckily it ended in a good direction. I hope TL does better under your leadership
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
March 18 2014 04:28 GMT
#33
This addresses pretty much all the problems I had with the last blog. Personal responsibility and stop second guessing yourself. Your teammates have a lot to offer so listen to them.

Honestly, after this and the recent results, Liquids TI4 run starts now, not in July. Prove you belong.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
March 18 2014 04:41 GMT
#34
You are pretty crazy.
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
March 18 2014 04:57 GMT
#35
If you ever need to talk I'm here for you

-Engdrew
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
March 18 2014 04:59 GMT
#36
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote:
This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts.


Comes off to YOU as needy. It comes to me as cathartic. Why not let him be? Don't impose your way of being onto others, it's dull.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
March 18 2014 05:28 GMT
#37
I like this one!
Moderator
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
March 18 2014 05:58 GMT
#38
Just win or at least be competitive (no stomps please). Go TL!!
Breaker 1st Class
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia47 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 06:21:44
March 18 2014 06:14 GMT
#39
On March 18 2014 11:53 Dommk wrote:
This constant need to explain yourself comes off as so darn needy. Take a page from Envy and let your actions do the talking instead of your blog posts.


1) Fluff and Envy are two different people.

2) It's not like Fluff is only just talk. He's backing it up with the appropriate 'walk' as well, as detailed by steps and actions he's outlined in the post. We don't know if he will fail or succeed, but you can't deny he is also actively trying. So really, he has already taken the metaphorical page from Envy. We have to give things time to play out.

3) Like you've said yourself; there IS a need for him to explain himself. You can interpret Fluff's post as simply needy, or you can also understand that there is no doubt many of us who want clarification on certain matters affecting the team as a whole. This spotlight, for better or worse, shines on the entire team as much as it does on Fluff himself. To imply Fluff's post serves only himself would indicate tunnel vision about the whole situation.

Although on the surface this is an apology from Fluff, it is also a PR statement for his team and liquid as an organisation as well. Fluff's post is part explanation about himself and part the collective voice of his team clarifying their intent, future and direction together.

Actions are powerful, but that's not to discount the importance of 'talk'/explanations/clarifications. The two are not mutually exclusive. It is better that they go hand in hand as it minimises the scope of speculation and conjecture and really serves as a rallying force and voice for those who do support liquid.

In any case, I'm glad it's all sorted out. Fight on, Fluff! Fight on, Liquid!
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
March 18 2014 06:28 GMT
#40
TI4 would be nothing without Liquid. Liquid is the only reason why I came to Dota 2 from SC2 , sure other teams are flashy in plays and win the biggest tourney but Liquid- there is something about them that keeps me following despite continuous failures. I believe that this is the turning point
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
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