def ruby_is_the_ugliest_language(why_use_it_ever)
  all_the_clutter_of_scheme(but,none,of,the,elegance)
  duck = get_thing # is this real
  duck = get_banana # why would you do this to me
  duck = get_firetruck # fuck I give up
  mystery = is_this_a_method_or_a_variable
  did_I_mention_the_ugly_naming_standard = true
  ruby_annoys_me.each do |day|
    get_mildly_convenient_loop_syntax
    unless is_it_worth_it?
      ruby_sucks
    end
  end
  Thread.new {
    multithreading_is_a_joke = true
  }
end
end
end
end

MysteryMeat1

United States3292 Posts

January 31 2014 19:14 GMT

mystery is a method.

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

January 31 2014 19:19 GMT

On February 01 2014 04:14 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
mystery is a method.

Maybe, maybe not. You can't know without seeing more. Even if you saw the method definition you wouldn't know for sure.

Consider:

mystery = 4

def mystery
  return 2
end

puts mystery

This won't even complain about the ambiguity, it just outputs 4. This is why Ruby sucks.

rafaliusz

Poland482 Posts

January 31 2014 19:33 GMT

Does that code actually work?

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

January 31 2014 19:48 GMT

On February 01 2014 04:33 rafaliusz wrote:
Does that code actually work?

It's correct syntax (other than the three superfluous end statements at the bottom), yes.

Chairman Ray

United States11903 Posts

January 31 2014 19:50 GMT

Ah Ruby, I hated it so much.

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

January 31 2014 20:01 GMT

On February 01 2014 04:50 Chairman Ray wrote:
Ah Ruby, I hated it so much.

Seriously though, duck typing may be fine for a teaching language or a small personal project, but when you're digging through and debugging huge files and/or trying to use big libraries, it's like, what the FUCK does this method return? What kind of shit is this variable holding? What asshole named this method to_m?

end

Also Ruby can't multithread for shit, all you end up doing is context switching on a single core and making everything take 3x as long.

hp.Shell

United States2527 Posts

January 31 2014 20:39 GMT

On February 01 2014 04:14 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
mystery is a method.

lol, +1, high five sir.

Logo

United States7542 Posts

January 31 2014 22:24 GMT

On February 01 2014 05:01 Alzadar wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ehhh depends on your developers. If people are good about not being terrible, duck typing can save you a ton of code and still remain workable on large projects. Less so for primitives where it's annoying, but it's nice for some functions that aren't distinct enough to create an object hierarchy for (say load and unload if you're dealing with some sort of widget type things).

Plus it avoids an equally annoying bloat you see in large projects where you have someone doing:
addNumbers(int i, int j)
addNumbers(string i, string j)
addNumbers(int i, string j)
addNumbers(string i, int j)
addNumbers(float i, float j)
... and on and on...

Alzadar

Canada5009 Posts

January 31 2014 22:39 GMT

#10

On February 01 2014 07:24 Logo wrote:

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You could achieve a similar thing via regular polymorphism, although that takes a decent amount of foresight and would be hard to implement retroactively.

docvoc

United States5491 Posts

January 31 2014 23:19 GMT

#11

I was so sure this was gonna be about pokemon and I was about to get in here and defend that game to death lol.

Tufas

Austria2259 Posts

January 31 2014 23:24 GMT

#12

On February 01 2014 08:19 docvoc wrote:
I was so sure this was gonna be about pokemon and I was about to get in here and defend that game to death lol.

Same thought, but I just wanted to see TL burn.

Otolia

France5805 Posts

February 01 2014 10:28 GMT

#13

Had to dev a FTP in ruby and when I realized there was no high-level storage from ruby-objects to yaml in ruby I cried. Still there is far worse than Ruby.

*shrugs* FORTRAN *shrugs*

Chef

10810 Posts

February 01 2014 13:57 GMT

#14

Rails is excellent for quickly developing web-applications. Choose the right tool for the right job. Of course there's certain annoying things about Ruby and the asset pipeline can be frustrating.