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Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
December 03 2013 21:11 GMT
#21
well my friend the problem with bubbles for speculators like us is that i quote " the problem with bubbles is that it makes us fools either before or after the burst"

if you dont invest now your missing the big rally, if you were vested in the burst you well done fugged up
Why do people hate the Colossus? Because the Colossus is like banksters from Wall Street: “too big to fail”. - TheDwF
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
December 03 2013 21:13 GMT
#22
On December 04 2013 06:11 Kingsky wrote:
well my friend the problem with bubbles for speculators like us is that i quote " the problem with bubbles is that it makes us fools either before or after the burst"

if you dont invest now your missing the big rally, if you were vested in the burst you well done fugged up


yes of course. while the music's playing you gotta get up and dance. les non-dupes errent.

the thing is, I'm not an investor, I'm a cranky marxist and I look at all the crazy stupid contortions that society puts itself through so that investors can play their musical chairs game and I think they can all go to hell
shikata ga nai
Kingsky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-03 21:28:14
December 03 2013 21:27 GMT
#23
advice for moonfirespam

if you dont understand the underlying commodity, security, dont invest in that market
if you dont have a grasp of the current macro-state of the EM and DM's dont invest in the market
if you dont know the what is EBITDA and gearing ratios i dont think you are ready to invest in the market
if you think that investing is simple and anyone can earn big money easy over time dont invest in the market
if you have trouble understanding the acronyms i used i think your not ready to invest in the market
if you want to speculate and dont really have a strategy i highly advice you stay out of the market

i recommend reading benjamin graham's the intelligent investor if you want a primer on value investing.
for views on macro trends etc i say just read your daily business times ( i dont know what is used in UK but i have a subscription to city AM for england)


the issue i have with some people is that they think their gurus after reading 1 book and start preaching on what to do in the market. i personally believe this sort of thing takes work and time so that you understand the markets, and then it might not guarantee a return as markets are fickle. it just gives you a higher opportunity to capitalize when you see certain criteria met

enter the markets with not the want to seek riches but to preserve capital and i think you will do fine
Why do people hate the Colossus? Because the Colossus is like banksters from Wall Street: “too big to fail”. - TheDwF
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
December 03 2013 22:54 GMT
#24
On December 04 2013 06:27 Kingsky wrote:
advice for moonfirespam

if you dont understand the underlying commodity, security, dont invest in that market
if you dont have a grasp of the current macro-state of the EM and DM's dont invest in the market
if you dont know the what is EBITDA and gearing ratios i dont think you are ready to invest in the market
if you think that investing is simple and anyone can earn big money easy over time dont invest in the market
if you have trouble understanding the acronyms i used i think your not ready to invest in the market
if you want to speculate and dont really have a strategy i highly advice you stay out of the market

i recommend reading benjamin graham's the intelligent investor if you want a primer on value investing.
for views on macro trends etc i say just read your daily business times ( i dont know what is used in UK but i have a subscription to city AM for england)


the issue i have with some people is that they think their gurus after reading 1 book and start preaching on what to do in the market. i personally believe this sort of thing takes work and time so that you understand the markets, and then it might not guarantee a return as markets are fickle. it just gives you a higher opportunity to capitalize when you see certain criteria met

enter the markets with not the want to seek riches but to preserve capital and i think you will do fine

On December 04 2013 06:27 Kingsky wrote:
advice for moonfirespam

if you dont understand the underlying commodity, security, dont invest in that market
if you dont have a grasp of the current macro-state of the EM and DM's dont invest in the market
if you dont know the what is EBITDA and gearing ratios i dont think you are ready to invest in the market
if you think that investing is simple and anyone can earn big money easy over time dont invest in the market
if you have trouble understanding the acronyms i used i think your not ready to invest in the market
if you want to speculate and dont really have a strategy i highly advice you stay out of the market

i recommend reading benjamin graham's the intelligent investor if you want a primer on value investing.
for views on macro trends etc i say just read your daily business times ( i dont know what is used in UK but i have a subscription to city AM for england)


the issue i have with some people is that they think their gurus after reading 1 book and start preaching on what to do in the market. i personally believe this sort of thing takes work and time so that you understand the markets, and then it might not guarantee a return as markets are fickle. it just gives you a higher opportunity to capitalize when you see certain criteria met

enter the markets with not the want to seek riches but to preserve capital and i think you will do fine


Cheers for the book pick, will probably Amazon Prime it across tomorrow It's a topic that I've been dabbling in and reading around the the last year or so.

Out of interest what's your thoughts on the Hilton IPO? Althought can't get all the numbers on Hilton Worldwide seens theres a lot of pluses making it look decent (Blackstone keeping it's holdings, stable exec board, expansion overseas, sector showing overall strength, etc).

It will be interesting to see how it compares to the other guys book. The basics actually seem fairly similar. He doesn't use the terms you have used specifically, but has talked about their principles and how they work and why the influence and good / bad pick.
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