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THE DREAM predicts: Blizzcon Ro16

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 23:23:12
October 29 2013 16:53 GMT
#1
Seeding rules

Note: If Revival gets out of his CL group (which is extremely likely), Naniwa and Revival will play an offline Bo5 deciding who gets to face Soulkey. Should this occur, Naniwa will win 3-1.
Note 2: written before aLive's games in Challenger League

+ Show Spoiler [If you doubt THE DREAM] +
On October 20 2013 00:25 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 03:48 Zealously wrote

Soulkey 4:3 Innovation



Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 19:02 Zealously wrote:
Maru 4-2

+ Show Spoiler +
Hey I got it right last time, remember


Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 18:36 Zealously wrote:
Dear will probably take this. 4-2 is my guess


stuchiu, there is some vision in me still


Taeja and Naniwa advance


Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Naniwa wins 3-2
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-1
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-2
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Mvp wins 3-1
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - sOs wins 3-1
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Dear wins 3-1
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - Maru wins 3-1
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - Bomber wins 3-2

Brief explanations

Match 1: Just like when Naniwa played Innovation, this one seems like a long shot. However, with Naniwa's tendency to always fight the hardest and play the best against players he should have no business beating (see Code S, Leenock, Innovation, Life) and the abundance of SoulkeyvP available for study, Naniwa should be able to pull an upset here. He'll have to play the games of his life to do it, but that's what the guy is all about.

Match 2:
[10.14.04] Kwanghee Woo: this isn't going to work for duckdeok
[10.14.10] Kwanghee Woo: he keeps doing these weird attacks
[10.14.13] Kwanghee Woo: and Taeja is like
[10.14.18] Kwanghee Woo: haha


Match 3: In the beginning, ZvP troubled the Tyrant greatly. So he descended into the pits of America, to find the path. To uncover the knowledge from aeons past, the knowledge he required to beat the hordes of Protoss besieging Zerg territory. And so he did, slaying hordes of Protoss players to reach a great final battle against a Terran, where a new weakness was discovered: ZvT.
Okay, so people seem to remember that Jaedong is now bad at ZvT. This isn't right. He's no god in the match-up, but he's taken out TheSTC, Heart, Taeja and Hack recently. He lost to MMA, sure, but I'm - perhaps wrongly so - not convinced in aLive's abilities to prepare for a single incredibly important match. When it comes to that, I'll give it to the multiple OSL champion over the guy I can barely remember.

Match 4: Some players win because they have the mechanics. Some people win because they have the mental edge. Some win with preparation. Some win with anti-meta builds.
Mvp, though, wins because he is Mvp. Slumps don't concern him, and neither does a great lack of recent results. I have no doubt that Polt is a better player all-round, but does that mean that he'll win against the guy who seems to only win when he shouldn't? No.

Match 5: A guy who can 2-0 elfi isn't going down to unorthodox play. It is true that sOs hasn't looked all that hot in PvP lately, but he's hardly looked bad, or even much worse than HerO. For me, this match is the hardest one to call. I give the edge to sOs because he has such a big toolbox, but HerO was relatively convincing against Dear this weekend so I won't count him out.

Match 6: One week ago, I would have given the edge to Taeja without hesitation, despite Dear's beating of Maru in GSL. However, after witnessing Dear's incredible PvT against Maru (again) at the Season Finals, I've been converted. Unless Taeja miraculously takes his TvP to the next level, Dear is my favorite to stomp Taeja. After what he showed us at the Season Finals, I can't see any Terran beating Dear through aggression alone - there has to be more to your play if you want to take Dear down.

Match 7: Much like Mvp, MC has a tendency to win when he shouldn't. But unlike Mvp, his supernatural abilities aren't powerful enough to beat anyone. Despite losing to Dear twice recently, Maru has showcased very impressive, high-speed TvP. Much like how MMA beat MC in the WCS Europe Grand Finals, I feel like this will be a convincing win for Maru.

Match 8: STARTALE STARTALE STARTALE (oh and Bomber has had a lot of time to practise in peace with some Terran buddies whereas MMA has been busy with all three match-ups and global travel. Yes I'm biased but I really do think Bomber is the favorite in terms of gameplay). If 2011 is back, then Bomber and MMA are both sick-good. Only this time, Bomber has (mostly) gotten past his choking tendencies. That means he wins.

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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 29 2013 17:17 GMT
#2
but what about overall gameflow
jjakji fan
gosubay
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore13 Posts
October 29 2013 17:29 GMT
#3
i agree with everything except the first. soulkey to win 3-1
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
October 29 2013 17:38 GMT
#4
Don't forget your prediction of Taeja and Naniwa to advance from the Ro16 of WCS Season Finals 2.

Because I never will.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 17:47:44
October 29 2013 17:46 GMT
#5
I agree with all except
Match #1: Soulkey takes it 3-1 (Soulkey has the advantage of watching Life vs Naniwa replays and can learn Naniwa's style)
Match #4: Polt takes it 3-1 (Polt is very solid, he only lost to Hack because of a split second mistake of moving out)

But to be honest, I think ST Life takes the whole thing.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
October 29 2013 17:49 GMT
#6
lol, nice name. Solid predictions except for match 8
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
October 29 2013 17:51 GMT
#7
you should add a "I am swedish" disclaimer, like wax did.

also, taeja builds ghosts
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
October 29 2013 17:55 GMT
#8
Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-0
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-0
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-1
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Polt wins 3-1
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - sOs wins 3-1
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Dear wins 3-2
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - Maru wins 3-2
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - Bomber wins 3-1
SooYoung-Noona!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 29 2013 18:17 GMT
#9
MMA is going to make Bomber choke.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1158 Posts
October 29 2013 18:44 GMT
#10
darn I should pay more attention to this predicting stuff, missing out on some good stuff
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 18:52:37
October 29 2013 18:45 GMT
#11
Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-1
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-1
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-2
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Polt wins 3-2
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - HerO wins 3-2
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Taeja wins 3-1
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - MC wins 3-2
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - MMA wins 3-2

general gameflow yo
actually general gameflow predicts exactly one 3-0 between Taeja, Innovation, and Soulkey but I can't bring myself to predict Dear, duckdeok, or Naniwa to lose 3-0
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 18:57:37
October 29 2013 18:57 GMT
#12
I was hoping for Veroleg to show up in time for Blizzcon so that he could predict KESPA winning everything 3-0/4-0 but unfortunately it seems that he's long gone
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 29 2013 21:01 GMT
#13
On October 30 2013 03:45 The_Templar wrote:
Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-1
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-1
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-2
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Polt wins 3-2
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - HerO wins 3-2
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Taeja wins 3-1
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - MC wins 3-2
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - MMA wins 3-2

general gameflow yo
actually general gameflow predicts exactly one 3-0 between Taeja, Innovation, and Soulkey but I can't bring myself to predict Dear, duckdeok, or Naniwa to lose 3-0

well id call all of them 3-0s :D for dear
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 29 2013 21:15 GMT
#14
On October 30 2013 06:01 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 03:45 The_Templar wrote:
Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-1
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-1
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-2
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Polt wins 3-2
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - HerO wins 3-2
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Taeja wins 3-1
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - MC wins 3-2
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - MMA wins 3-2

general gameflow yo
actually general gameflow predicts exactly one 3-0 between Taeja, Innovation, and Soulkey but I can't bring myself to predict Dear, duckdeok, or Naniwa to lose 3-0

well id call all of them 3-0s :D for dear

You spelled taeja funny
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 29 2013 21:17 GMT
#15
On October 30 2013 03:57 Zealously wrote:
I was hoping for Veroleg to show up in time for Blizzcon so that he could predict KESPA winning everything 3-0/4-0 but unfortunately it seems that he's long gone

Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-0
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-0
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-0
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Mvp wins 3-2
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - sOs wins 3-0
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Dear wins 3-0
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - MC wins 3-1
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - MMA wins 3-2

And then:
Soulkey 2-3 INnoVation
Jaedong 3-0 Mvp
sOs 2-3 Dear
MC 3-1 MMA

INnoVation 1-3 Jaedong
Dear 3-0 MC

Jaedong 4-1 Dear

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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 21:46:57
October 29 2013 21:45 GMT
#16
On October 30 2013 02:29 gosubay wrote:
i agree with everything except the first. soulkey to win 3-1


That's what caught my attention to.

On October 30 2013 06:17 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 03:57 Zealously wrote:
I was hoping for Veroleg to show up in time for Blizzcon so that he could predict KESPA winning everything 3-0/4-0 but unfortunately it seems that he's long gone

Match 1: (Z)Soulkey (#1) vs. (P)NaNiwa (#16) - Soulkey wins 3-0
Match 2: (T)INnoVation (#2) vs. (P)duckdeok (#15) - Innovation wins 3-0
Match 3: (Z)Jaedong (#3) vs. (T)aLive (#14) - Jaedong wins 3-0
Match 4: (T)Polt (#4) vs. (T)Mvp (#13) - Mvp wins 3-2
Match 5: (P)HerO (#5) vs. (P)sOs (#12) - sOs wins 3-0
Match 6: (P)Dear (#6) vs (T)TaeJa (#11) - Dear wins 3-0
Match 7: (T)Maru (#7) vs (P)MC (#10) - MC wins 3-1
Match 8: (T)Bomber (#8) vs (T)MMA (#9) - MMA wins 3-2

And then:
Soulkey 2-3 INnoVation
Jaedong 3-0 Mvp
sOs 2-3 Dear
MC 3-1 MMA

INnoVation 1-3 Jaedong
Dear 3-0 MC

Jaedong 4-1 Dear



You are so dreaming especially after that MMA series. As much as I would like to see Jaedong win a major. I don't think he's ready yet.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 29 2013 21:51 GMT
#17
Keep in mind that SC2 cannot be predicted with logic alone and that prepared matches usually play out a little differently from marathon tourneys where many of the above players tend to shine.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 29 2013 21:56 GMT
#18
On October 30 2013 06:51 Zealously wrote:
Keep in mind that SC2 cannot be predicted with logic alone and that prepared matches usually play out a little differently from marathon tourneys where many of the above players tend to shine.


I understand the sentiment. As for a LANs predictability? I made a lot of money off those events including the last one, which was fairly predictable. I like making money. ^-^
Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
October 29 2013 22:42 GMT
#19
I don't know what you guys are seeing to disagree with. Dream doubters beware. Doubting The Dream will lead to the crushing of your own.

I second all your predictions Zealously. Both head and especially heart.
"You must enemy don't know, and very good micro" - Bosstoss #Wet4Ret
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 09:19:34
October 30 2013 09:09 GMT
#20
Naniwa...to beat Soulkey ;_;
Ok someone is on pixie dust

God damn if that is the RO16, the only 2 EG players go up against each other >.< dammit.
Also Maru vs MC, dammit xD

Just hoping the games are all as good as WCS Season 3 Finals!

Also wish Maru would win it :3 But with the draw he is playing Dear again so maybe not so much luck xD Getting top 4 would be awesome though
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