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Its ok. I'm still pretty bad at SC2 and DotA. You can just play to have fun. Also, if LoL is anything like DotA, just play with a 5 stack and its always a fun time.
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Oh wow, you even logged an ARAM in your sheet and how you could have improved - that's serious biz.
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By ignoring guides and thinking they are wrong. Do you mean you build strange and whacky shit and ignore proven optimal items / builds for champions?
Lets be honest. you're (we're) silver and you simply dont understand the game to a level pro's and diamond players do. yet. Ignoring all their advice, guides and proven facts (e.g triforce corki or something less batshit.) is only going to prove detrimental to you. Having the mindset of "i know better" will put you in shitty situations.
That mindset carries over to games too, never ever think "i know better" just because of your rank, skill or some shit. Even if you do. (which, you probably do.) this held me back for the longest time.
Practicing build theories and mathcrafting optimal play styles? Thats not the way to go about it. You are 100% wasting your time on things that are either useless, bad for you or at least a less-effective way of improving. Practicing every champion in bots = bad if its more then once, shit i'd even say play dominion, 3v3 instead of bots if you're looking to get a feel for them.
You are in silver because you make mistakes, bad decisions, bad CS, shit like that. Analysing replays helps, getting others (pref higher ranks) to do so is better (fresh eyes.) and analysing yourself as you play. During a game just constantly ask yourself the question "why" and be truthful with yourself. Even if you have a good game you missed opportunities for plays and fucked untold things up, it happens at pro-level, we do that to a magnitude of 1000.
Pick your champion pool, find some good builds (and understand them properly. builds change game-by-game.) and start practicing. Then start self-analysis during and after games and ask others to go through your replays and discuss things with them too. That is literally the best way to improve and the only thing you should be doing right now.
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Problem with mathcrafting in lol is it only proves certain builds etc for very very niche situations. Similar to the voidstaff is best dmg item as 1st or 2nd ap item, it doesn't account for stuff like utility, cdr, teamfighting mechanics, etc.
Also play in ihs, they've helped me quite a bit.
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thats a lot of office documents for a game. i prefer to improve and have fun at the same time...
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You're overanalyzing first of all. Hitting gold doesn't take any supreme modicum of skill (I can say that since I was gold most of this season and now plat), but it does require more games played (at least for me) to solidify mechanics and teamwork mechanics. You can't go into games thinking that you're better than everyone else EVEN IF IT'S TRUE, because that will make you toxic beyond belief if you have a bad game and take it out on your teammates.
krndandaman's post goes over what I would say in detail so just read his post, it's solid. Be a strong laner that wins lane every time. When I played top lane this season I found that when I won lane our team would snowball because then our jungler could focus on mid/bot lanes, which means he has to make less decisions which means he's doing more active things on the map rather than trying to decide which lane to hemorrhage if all the lanes are losing.
Having a particular role you excel at is helpful in giving you "free" wins if you are truly outstanding in that role for the elo bracket you play in because then it will allow you to be creative in other roles since you have a fallback.
Read guides from pro players on the champions that you want to play/incorporate in your champion pool. Trust me, they've done far more theorycrafting than you have as have their coaches/managers. Trust their insight into the game.
EDIT: Oh and don't play bot games to try and figure out matchups. Only use bots/customs to work on last-hitting mechanics. They don't do anything that makes sense most of the time so it gives you wrong/bad data.
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@packrat386 I do prefer playing with others even if it's always more confusing.
@affinity aram srs bsns
@capped I don't go out of my way to read guides. I obviously come by a few, but I don't look up a build order for every new champion I play before the game starts or look up counterpicks. I look at the top rated Sejuani mobafire guide mobafire link and it still recommends you get locket and aegis so it's outdated. I can also tailor the build to my own styles eg. I like sight stone. The guide also says that Sejuani's E only increases by 5% slow per level but fails to mention that the duration does too. Sejuani's ganks are much more potent with E max than W max since people just get out of W.
Corki's probably pretty strong with Triforce but I'd have to play him a bit to see his strengths. Only time I've tried him was on a bot game over a year ago during a free week to get a feel for his abilities.
@rabidch believe it or not, making these docs was fun.
@wei2coolman agreed.
@krndaman You got really good really fast. Good job! I don't really pick champions for my team unless it's in the jungle and I feel like my team lacks an ADC (twitch jungle) or a tank (sejuani/malphite jungle) or I get the chance to play an assassin jungle (rengar).
@las91 I think the bigger problem here is that I even care about getting to gold. I lose track of the goals.
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dude im so hype im in my gold promos now lemme give u a tip too:
draven riven lucian caitlyn gragas are super fun champs u should play those
and i forgot voli (+health = +dmg) it's rediculous
and i just build what riot tells me and it works pretty well
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As a Gold V player:
1. As you know, you should have died when you tried to invade their red. You probably don't want to go where a red buff lee is when you know he was going to be on that side of the jungle (from walking through mid). Instead, you probably just want to farm the rest of your jungle to hit 3. Side note: I'm pretty sure you could have stole the red away from lee with quicker reactions; though it still would not have made it a good decision.
2. On your first gank top, you initiated with Q. By doing that, you lose your gap closer for when Jax jumps/flashes away. Better would be running at Jax, saving your Q for when he jumps/flashes. Side note: Jax didn't need to flash with your gank, I don't think.
3. Second gank, you made the right choice going in when Jax used his jump.
4. I think you spend too much time moving across the map and not enough time getting exp. You really want to hit 6 as soon as possible, as it's pretty much a guaranteed kill.
5. You made the right choice not going after dragon when your team wasn't able to back you up, but then you stuck around the banana bush too long. You knew that 4 of the enemy team was there, and none of yours were, so you need to take into consideration what the reward is for being around there (pretty much none, especially after you placed down that ward to give you vision).
6. Didn't watch carefully after ~11 mins, but it seems like you were out of place a lot of the time. Better map awareness/game sense will fix that.
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I know this spreadsheet documentation has gotten a lot of praise from some people, but to me it's horseshit and very terrible for you and your psyche. All you get out of that shit are funny coincidences and peculiar patterns that you absolutely can draw the most wrong conclusions from. That, and a lot of self hate.
I used to take the same approach as you did to BW/SC2. Learned the numbers to everything, knew the generic timings of things. But I never learned to piece all that information together, so knowledge of those numbers were arbitrary and pointless. I looked at my own replays, but I was so concerned with the positioning of my marines at my ramp or my imperfect worker split that I just got pissed at myself.
This approach would probably work in 1998 until the dawn of the replay, but now you have to play the game. And by play the game, I mean stop pretending like you're some special rainman that can see through numbers into the deeper meaning of things and start learning from the people who actually have success. It probably pains you to do this, but that means watching streams and reading guides (from good players that is) and imitating what they do. You don't have to always know exactly what the fuck you're doing; that can come after. Just start doing what they do, because it has been tried and tested and proven over and over to work. Lifesteal quints and doran's blade on ADC's made no sense to me at first because the concept of what trading and lane sustain was wasn't clear to me until I was around silver V. But I copied what the pros do and I gradually came to understand it simply through experience and enough games played.
How did you learn to get good in BW? Chances are they were replays and pro games. It was even easier in SC2 with the advent of streaming. Right out the gate, you saw what higher level play was, and the standards were raised. You weren't contained in your little world and fucked up perspective of how the game worked and should be played; you saw what being good was right in front of you. So what did you do (or should have done)? Imitate them. It might kill your ego and you might have no idea why what you're doing is good and it might feel really uncomfortable to be playing like you are, but in the end with enough practice it works out. And then, once you hit B- or masters and you had the slightest clue what you were doing, then you could refine things around your own preferences and come to your own conclusions about things.
Also, when you lose in LoL, it's still partly your fault. Doesn't matter if you went 15/2/5, you still contributed to the loss. Always play like you're in your promo series or like you're trying to qualify for a league in BW/SC2. Complacent mentality leads to losing streaks.
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@hoot00 good for you. I mean this sincerely.
@misder
1. Yeah, I tried to click on Red when I realized Lee was doing it but then he smited it before I could decide whether to smite it I think.
2. I specifically Q'd early because I didn't want Jax to just use me as a jump tool. He headed into the brush so I thought that's what he'd do.
3. Cool. Thanks!
4. Definitely my biggest mistake this match. It'd have worked if I'd gotten a gank to work on Jax.
5. LoL. For sure. If my Thresh and Graves were closer then I could see the point of staying there because I wanted to just find one guy for a pick.
6. Maybe. I feel like it was fine. I mean someone had to push the lanes. I'd rather my carries did it since they push faster, or I had a sunfire but that game didn't provide me the luxury of sunfire. Maybe if I had more gold or sold spirit stone to get a faster sunfire I could push faster but I'd have missed the tenacity of ancient golem.
@Bobo_XIII I don't think you read what I wrote that carefully. Many disagreements.
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Actually, you're right, I didn't. Well, I did, but then tried a little too hard to read between the lines. I saw your spreadsheet, and that plus you mentioning how you study all the unit statistics and believing that you understand the game very well reminded me exactly of myself so much that I just went on an extended tangent.
Out of curiosity, what rank were you in iCCup/SC2?
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