• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:22
CET 15:22
KST 23:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced12[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Which season is the best in ASL? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2680 users

TvT Cloak Banshee FE (need help with structure)

Blogs > Race is Terran
Post a Reply
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
August 31 2013 03:12 GMT
#1
Hey all, I know there are a lot of nerdy smart people on this site and that's what I'm looking for. More specifically, I need some help making my sc2 notes organized and clean. If you guys could give me some constructive criticism towards the structure that'd be very helpful to me and I would be oh so appreciative of the effort.

Basically what I'm looking for is help to make it readable so that someone who doesn't have a clue about the build can read this and understand the basic plan of this particular style, which today is the cloak banshee FE


Cloak Banshee FE Build Order


Polt vs Taeja @ Neo Planet S
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/matches/polt-vs-taeja-65/game-1
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/matches/polt-vs-taeja-66/game-3

10 depot
12 rax
13 gas
15 orbital
16 depot
18 factory
19 gas
22 depot
!1! scv scout
24 starport & tech lab on factory --> @100% tech lab to starport and start 1 banshee & cloak & widow mine
26 reactor on rax
28 depot
35 cc (in main base)
40 tech lab factory
!2! cloak banshee harass
53 2nd rax on reactor, 3rd rax & switch reactor rax to starport tech lab addon and start stim
70 3rd gas & start 1x medvac production
{10:30}!3! marine tank viking/raven poke
77 3rd cc --> @100% orbital & 4th and 5th rax & reactor on starport
86 reactor on 3rd rax & x2 engi bay & 4th gas
129 2nd factory & sensor tower @ third base and turret right outside sensor tower range
{13:00}!4! marine tank move out
{16:00}!5! marine tank posturing
Start 4th base



!1! scv scout

On a 2 player map, send the scv when banshee starts. On a 4 player map, send scv after rax. With the scv, look for reactor rax FE, fast banshee FE, or banshee FE

!2! cloak banshee harass

Use the cloak banshee to see what the terran opened with; reactor rax FE, fast banshee FE, banshee FE, or fast stim. The goal of the banshee is to obtain scouting information, to STAY ALIVE to rescout later on, and to pick off marines, scvs, and/or forcing turrets.
-scout terran opener (take super fast third or do a 2 base timing attack)
-keep banshee ALIVE!!! for rescout later
- pick off scvs, marines, force turrets


!3! 1 raven/1 viking/2 siege tank poke

You should only poke the terran base if you did more damage with your banshee opening than your opponent, or you scout a fast 3OC build with your banshee. When you poke, try to pick off a siege tank with 2HSM. If the cloak banshee scouts a delayed tech lab on the factory, move out with 1 raven/1 viking/marines and poke terran.

!4! marine tank move out

{13:00} If the other terran does late stim 3OC opener, move out at this time to his third base and delay the expansion. Against other 2 base aggressive builds such as fast stim, take third base and prepare against possible drops and attacks (sensor towers and army positioning)

!5! marine tank posturing (7 tanks)

Move to the possible 4th base location of the terran and siege up to deny expanding there. Try to trade bio for tanks while keeping your tank count up. After securing a 4th base, split the marine-tank army in half for maximum army positioning advantage with 6-8 tanks in each army. Add a 3rd factory to keep pumping additional tanks after a 4th base is taken

Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 31 2013 07:00 GMT
#2
I don't follow Starcraft much these days to comment on the build, but normally supply build lists don't go as far as 70+ supply and 4th base. Going that far makes too many assumptions on how the game will develop from the early stages on.

Other than that, you probably want to split up the build order into specific segments, and write additional comments just below that segment. It makes it much easier to read than marking a line in the build order, and then lumping all of the comments and notes together at the end.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
3D!Clan Event
14:00
3D!COMMUNITY OLD SCHOOL 2X2 3
3DClanTV 60
Liquipedia
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Playoffs
SHIN vs herOLIVE!
Solar vs TBD
WardiTV1210
TKL 369
IndyStarCraft 257
Rex134
IntoTheiNu 6
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 369
IndyStarCraft 257
Rex 134
MindelVK 67
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 65786
Sea 8787
Rain 2310
Horang2 1484
Soma 881
actioN 715
Larva 675
BeSt 594
firebathero 357
hero 249
[ Show more ]
Rush 233
JYJ224
Hyun 144
Barracks 139
Last 112
zelot 98
Sharp 89
Mong 72
LaStScan 68
sorry 64
Shinee 22
Noble 18
Terrorterran 15
IntoTheRainbow 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6167
singsing3012
XcaliburYe348
League of Legends
Reynor142
Counter-Strike
fl0m2411
zeus1274
x6flipin663
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor182
Other Games
B2W.Neo1813
DeMusliM374
crisheroes344
Fuzer 267
Hui .216
KnowMe69
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick804
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream99
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 4
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 42
• Michael_bg 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV642
• Ler59
League of Legends
• Jankos2961
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
5h 38m
Hawk vs Kyrie
spx vs Cross
Replay Cast
9h 38m
Wardi Open
21h 38m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 2h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 21h
StarCraft2.fi
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-28
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.