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[BW]: 2010 - 2013 Write Up(s)

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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
August 20 2013 20:38 GMT
#1
In the past week(s) I had a lot of free time and used it to sum up a bit of foreign BW after Beta. It's been quite a few pages, so be warned if you're interested, it might take you a few hours to read through the stuff.

      Short Summary

      Part I: Reconstruction

For the first part I tried to sum up the situation shortly after Beta and what we kind of lost. Following were profiles about Yoda and Game and the initial tournaments on Defiler and Teamliquid. This took some pages in Word (Open Office to be exact), so might want to skim them if you already know. Afterwards I did try to introduce the best players and the era of dominance by Sziky, Heme and Scan. The first part ends with ISL 2's finale, more or less and a short profile of the 'new' clans.

      Part II: Expanding

The second part starts with a profile of Eywa and his Nation Wars & Gambit Cup, but also describes a bit what was happening elsewhere; namely Russia (LANs), UEDGaming and the GosuCup. The main part is all about the games between Michael and Pro7ect. The time frame of this article would be between summer 2011 and end of 2011.

      Part III: Up and Down

Things covered in the third article: ISL 3, Gambit Cup Season 3 First Half, 'Russian Drama', RU KOTH, Zerg dominance of eOn, TechnicS, trutaCz, the SBWI and has interviews with Largo & Javlaeterran

      Part VI: Up and Down

Part IV is a bit weird, it basically has a bit about the rest of GC Season 3, TLS and ABC from TL.net and the BSL in it. However, I did write a bit about upcoming projects I know of or have heard of (ICC, SBWI, DRTL, Russia), added some sort of Top 10 (yes, very subjective and biased), graphics (timeline, Defiler Stats), Random Defiler Trivia and a few polls, so I know what readers would like to see next.


      Bias

Obviously, my reputation should be on an all-time low, but regardless; I tried to keep it neutral, even though most of it is how it happened from my perspective. Sources are at the end of Part IV, as well as links to all my statements - hopefully you click through them and make up your own mind. Also, thanks to Celetuiw (Cele around here?) to check twice a least for the first two parts and reminding me whenever I overdid it.

      Links
  • Part I (2010 - mid 2011)
  • Part II (Rest of 2011)
  • Part III (2011 - mid/end 2012)
  • Part IV (rest, sources, timeline, trivia)


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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-18 08:20:02
August 20 2013 21:00 GMT
#2
*me reading all chapters out loud*

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"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#3
Pretty amazing read. Thank you again
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 20 2013 21:27 GMT
#4
Now I finally know what all this Scan business is about!
You weren't kidding when you said WoT, not that it is bad or anything.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 20 2013 21:43 GMT
#5
i already read all of those on your blogsite, as you know. Still, this is pretty amazing. Wrapping up foreign history after sc2 beta in that much detail must have been tons of work.
Broodwar for life!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
August 20 2013 23:20 GMT
#6
Wow. Very nice!!

Looking forward to reading all of this.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 21 2013 02:29 GMT
#7
This is amazing! I've only read a bit so far and it's so detailed. I love it! Great blog!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 05:54:40
August 21 2013 05:52 GMT
#8
I like how whenever someone writes something with a lot of words, and it's related to StarCraft, people are like "THIS IS AWESOME, GREAT WORK... I'll read it later."

Edit: I read most of it. To be honest, if I tried to write something like this, I would be way more biased.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 21 2013 06:26 GMT
#9
Eywa didn't sponsor GT, sneazel and I talked about it before hand. I brought all the north american players (flip andrey michael draw), he brought all the polish players(sneazel trutacz southpark zergling). Sneazel paid all the entrance fee.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 21 2013 07:05 GMT
#10
now i feel this should get more expose then the blog section. Epoxide, gogo get us some frontpage space xDD
Broodwar for life!
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-05 21:02:09
August 21 2013 08:15 GMT
#11
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 21 2013 10:42 GMT
#12
On August 21 2013 16:05 Cele wrote:
now i feel this should get more expose then the blog section. Epoxide, gogo get us some frontpage space xDD

That's over my level
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 21 2013 13:07 GMT
#13
crazy man. this is basically a whole book about broodwar post 2010. just finished reading part one, it was very interesting. I quit bw 2011 and it's really nice to get an overview about what happened in the last years.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 20:43:00
August 21 2013 20:42 GMT
#14
Gt <-> Eywa thing fixed

On August 21 2013 14:52 ninazerg wrote:
I like how whenever someone writes something with a lot of words, and it's related to StarCraft, people are like "THIS IS AWESOME, GREAT WORK... I'll read it later."



After trying to find the passage DraW reffered to I can fully understand. :|
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 21 2013 22:06 GMT
#15
On August 22 2013 05:42 GeckoXp wrote:
Gt <-> Eywa thing fixed

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 14:52 ninazerg wrote:
I like how whenever someone writes something with a lot of words, and it's related to StarCraft, people are like "THIS IS AWESOME, GREAT WORK... I'll read it later."



After trying to find the passage DraW reffered to I can fully understand. :|


No, it's not possible to remember everything at all times. Even the very strongest Americans make mistakes:

+ Show Spoiler +

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"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
August 22 2013 08:56 GMT
#16
On August 22 2013 07:06 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 05:42 GeckoXp wrote:
Gt <-> Eywa thing fixed

On August 21 2013 14:52 ninazerg wrote:
I like how whenever someone writes something with a lot of words, and it's related to StarCraft, people are like "THIS IS AWESOME, GREAT WORK... I'll read it later."



After trying to find the passage DraW reffered to I can fully understand. :|


No, it's not possible to remember everything at all times. Even the very strongest Americans make mistakes:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


It wasn't about the mistake, these things happen even if you read up on events. Eywa's stuff was horribly archived. I meant that I start to understand why people give up soon, or say they read later on, but never get to read ALL of it. It did take me ten minutes to find the paragraph and thirty more to find all other references to the initial mistake. I also skimmed about the articles before writing this thread and that alone took me 15 minutes. Then again I hate the idea of leaving things out (which I did a lot though, see CRTL, rD Tour, Defi Show Matches, BBulsori, China entirely, [...]), so I guess there's no way around it.

Anyhow, I'd be grateful about any kind of feedback. So far all I got was something like "he wasn't kidding, gave up after reading one third" or something. Since I'll try to write future articles about the past, it'd be nice to know if people need all kinds of context (e.g. first 2-3 pages about the pre-Beta scene). The thing I'm currently writing (guess about what Epixodu) starts around 2003 - no idea what people still remember if they remember shit at all.

GM did mention a few tips already for the German version, mostly saying the time line was confusing at times, the switch between clear names and nicks was hard to understand and that i'd need flags. I don't have them yet and I tried to dodge that, because of extra work with shitty interface, but I could add them later on.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
August 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#17
A rivalry starting in 2003 hm, maybe Androide? I'm not too familiar with foreign stuff, that's why I love reading your stuff
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
October 18 2013 01:50 GMT
#18
Thanks for this done with part one starting part two now I really hope you write more because I will read through all of it
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
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