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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 09:45:00
August 09 2013 03:46 GMT
#1
I made this on post on reddit because i was mostly targeting them but i told myself that i might as well post it on TL aswell:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1k05mq/this_is_the_only_time_im_going_to_address_this/

In light of the recent Crank-Alicia incident i decided to give my 2 cents on the matter because as a viewer i felt like my time was slightly wasted and in turn i kinda took offence to that. TBH i personally think Crank just made an honest/innocent mistake, the issue itself isn't that big of a deal to me and thats not what i wanted to talk about. It's the few comments that i got that challenged my integrity that kinda got to me.

Everyone knows about my past and i know that ill get flake for it for several more years to come, rightfully and deservedly so.. and i have no problem with that. I usually just ignore the comments but i decided to address them this one time due to the amount of hypocrisy that goes on in this community. Regardless of what you think of me i take pride in my honesty and i believe thats one of my greatest traits. I honestly wouldn't change any of the mistakes that I've made in the past because I've grown to be a better person due to them, no bullshit.

I started maphacking when i was 14-15ish years old, this was even before i knew anything about the BW/TL community.. i was just some kid that was playing a PC game for fun. Once i started to take the game more seriously i discovered the BW community and i started to make a name for myself, at that time i was already extremely dependent on maphacking and i really couldn't play without it. I had gained an identity by playing a game that i loved and grew close to alot of people.. even tho i know it wasn't done the right/honest way, i was still extremely young and felt like i couldnt give that up.

What ended up changing me after i got caught was my love for the community and the game. If i didn't give a shit about it i could have just walked away but i honestly grew to love the community, which is why i fought for their approval and in turn i believe that made me a better person.

It's funny when i think about it because i kinda feel like i was raised by the TL community. At first i was some dumb kid that made a few mistakes, sure they gave me shit for it but they never turned their backs on me, and for that i will always be grateful to them. I felt like it was my duty to show them that i wasn't a lost cause, and in a way it was the only way i could repay them back. Go ahead and call me whatever you want but please remember to never question my integrity or honesty because I fought hard for those values ^ ^

And regarding the hypocrisy part, this pretty much summarizes my opinion on the matter:

(just wanted clarify that @DrCrowbar was the one who tweeted me this, this has nothing to do with TB )

*Payam Toghyan ‏@iamTT1 2h @Totalbiscuit he just needs to understand that forfeiting a match beforehand is totally fine. what he did was disrespectful to the viewers

(to clarify this point further more, imo a player has the right to forfeit a match seeing as its his tournament life thats on the line. i feel like he has the right to make that call)

*Patrick Smith ‏@DrCrowbar 7m @iamTT1 @Totalbiscuit lol Says the maphacker. You have no moral ground here, mate.

*Payam Toghyan ‏@iamTT1 1m @DrCrowbar @Totalbiscuit the same ppl that question my integrity by calling me a maphacker when i was 15-16 in a game that had absolutely no

*Payam Toghyan ‏@iamTT1 44s @DrCrowbar @Totalbiscuit $ online tournaments are the same people that follow dragon and suck his dick, which is why this community is toxic

i know my words came out a bit harsh but i was really mad at the time and thats just how my thoughts came out. that tweet instigated me to write this post, again this has nothing to do with dragon.. just wanted to point out the hypocrisy within our community


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deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
August 09 2013 03:59 GMT
#2
Any sane person can understand that we all did things when we were young and stupid that we aren't proud of as adults.

You've made your apologies. Move on. If other people can't move on then it's them that are being dicks.
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 04:21:02
August 09 2013 04:09 GMT
#3
I don't understand how people sucking Dragon's dick summarizes your opinion.

I do however understand constantly receiving inane comments based on a perceived persona. I never felt like me responding ever ameliorated the situation. People make those comments because they want to make those comments -- not because they lack the proper context which you've now so kindly offered to explain to them.

Apparently I'm bm to white-ra and apparently you're a maphacker.


There's some truth to both statements, as well as lots of lost context inbetween. The people you're responding to unfortunately only deal in absolutes, so an explanation is lost on them.

Of course in my case it didn't help that i'm actually pretty obnoxious ingame.

*Edit: Oh, didn't know Dragon had cheated. Explains that sentence =)
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
August 09 2013 04:10 GMT
#4
I have to say that when kids to stupid things in their youth it was because of not having the proper moral system brainwashed into them by their parents at an even younger age. Even without knowing how TT1 was brought up, its hard to blame him for that as a lot of young people don't get that from their parents these days unfortunately. When they don't get that from their parents they have little left but to resort to their peers (in his case, the online 'community' at TL).

Looks like he saw the error of his ways and is showing us the skills he has without the map hacking. Good on you TT1 for honestly showing us your past. Good luck.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 09 2013 04:18 GMT
#5
Move on.
I like you tt1, cuz you always come when I summon you huhu :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 09 2013 04:34 GMT
#6
On August 09 2013 13:18 Erasme wrote:
Move on.
I like you tt1, cuz you always come when I summon you huhu :D


8D
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Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
August 09 2013 04:42 GMT
#7
We all do stupid shit when we are young. It's tough when people don't let you move past it.
Keep on keeping on.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
August 09 2013 04:48 GMT
#8
hi payams, come back to bw! :D
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 09 2013 04:51 GMT
#9
Meh, I'm guilty of all kinds of shit. Hypocrites won't miss a chance to remind you of your childhood mistakes, while hiding behind the fact that you don't know about theirs.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
TheBigO
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States97 Posts
August 09 2013 05:11 GMT
#10
I can tell that you have moved on, which is good. Hopefully, the community will forgive you in a few years as well.

But, to be honest, I really am worried about Crank. I heard he was injured or something, and I don't know what is goin to happen to him. It would be a shame if Axiom lost a player like him.
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Hurricane Sponge
Profile Joined March 2010
868 Posts
August 09 2013 05:15 GMT
#11
Part 1:

"I LOVE THIS COMMUNITY! I FOUGHT FOR YOU!"

Part 2:

"Fuck you, this community is toxic."
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 09 2013 05:22 GMT
#12
theres a huge difference between the bw and sc2 community, but yea it was kinda unfair of me to bunch everyone together
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
August 09 2013 05:32 GMT
#13
When you say "I'll get flake" I do hope you mean the frosted variety
Iceman331
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1306 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 05:42:31
August 09 2013 05:38 GMT
#14
edit: ignore, wrong thread.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
August 09 2013 05:51 GMT
#15
you're a cool dude and people make mistakes when they're younger! no big deal. you learned from it. unfortunately, you're right about what you did and that it takes a few years for it to go away. expect that for a bit based on the fact that you were at one point known for your play and got caught haha

I still don't regret the smartass comment i left in your blog after you mentioned tsl a few years back!! hahaha
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 05:55:19
August 09 2013 05:52 GMT
#16
What Crank and Alicia incident are you mentioning in your post? You talk like everyone's heard about it and yet somehow a TL addict like me missed it.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 09 2013 05:57 GMT
#17
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CranK and Alicia were playing in the losers' match today. CranK randomly gg'ed out of a fairly even and a pretty much won game. looked pretty suspicious. then he blamed it on him not knowing his position in the game and thought he was way behind
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
August 09 2013 09:13 GMT
#18
Ok...so you are relating your map hacking when you were 14-15 in BW to CranK gging out early and making viewers upset? I don't see the correlation, maphacking is way worse and is the toxic thing. -_-
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 09:28:57
August 09 2013 09:27 GMT
#19
I don't understand how maphacking when you were a dumb kid has any relevance when you've already proven that you're good at the game and are an honest player now. If we could all be judged by all our mistakes as if they make us and we don't change, then we should all be burned at the stake

The internet is dumb, bro

If you teach me how to have that TT1 sense of always knowing when people are talking about you on TL I will forgive you :p

Edit: also, lol at the Dragon comment. I... have no comment on that
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
August 09 2013 09:48 GMT
#20
sry bro a magician never reveals his secrets

On August 09 2013 18:13 GGzerG wrote:
Ok...so you are relating your map hacking when you were 14-15 in BW to CranK gging out early and making viewers upset? I don't see the correlation, maphacking is way worse and is the toxic thing. -_-


thats because there is none and i thought my post made that pretty evident.

"the issue itself isn't that big of a deal to me and thats not what i wanted to talk about. It's the few comments that i got that challenged my integrity that kinda got to me."
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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