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LonelyIslands
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada590 Posts
June 05 2013 00:57 GMT
#61
I've always liked Verdana.
My heart and my mind will carry my body when my limbs are too weak
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9178 Posts
June 05 2013 01:00 GMT
#62
there was a time in my life when I did too, that time is long since gone and only lasted one website design
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
June 05 2013 01:24 GMT
#63
On June 04 2013 20:31 salle wrote:
<style type="text/css">body, td, a, p, td.sidemenu a:link, td.sidemenu a:visited, td.sidemenu a:hover, .sf-menu a, .extramenu h1, #forummsginfo, .forummsginfo, .forumPost, #submessage, .submessage, #forummsginfoa, .forummsginfoa { font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; !important; } .forumsig, td.sidemenu a.sb_title:link, td.sidemenu a.sb_title:visited, a.sb_title:hover, #forumindex, .forumindex, .submessagea, .quote { font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; !important; }</style>
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On June 04 2013 18:24 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 04 2013 17:45 salle wrote:
HawPig we should make browser specific css for the news templates, so good font browsers can see things in nice fonts and give boring ol' arial to chrome.

Browser sniffing. Ick.

We need to get the W3C working on something like a "@media all and (font-looks:shitty)" query so that we can serve nice fonts to browsers that can handle them.

Or Chrome can just like sort out their font rendering engine... it's seriously bad that the only browser that can't display google fonts well is chrome. And this has been known for a long while.

Soon, salle, soon: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=137692#c104

Blame Apple or something
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
June 05 2013 02:49 GMT
#64
OR

you could just use Font Awesome

http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
June 05 2013 02:58 GMT
#65
That's not really all that related *and* it doesn't look that great in Chrome on Windows (suffers from the same problems already discussed)
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
salle
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden5554 Posts
June 05 2013 03:40 GMT
#66
On June 05 2013 07:50 WillS wrote:
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On June 05 2013 07:42 salle wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:54 Targe wrote:
On June 04 2013 20:31 salle wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:24 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 04 2013 17:45 salle wrote:
HawPig we should make browser specific css for the news templates, so good font browsers can see things in nice fonts and give boring ol' arial to chrome.

Browser sniffing. Ick.

We need to get the W3C working on something like a "@media all and (font-looks:shitty)" query so that we can serve nice fonts to browsers that can handle them.

Or Chrome can just like sort out their font rendering engine... it's seriously bad that the only browser that can't display google fonts well is chrome. And this has been known for a long while.

ew.

It was a response to the guy saying he used verdana on his site.
The company I used to work for was an elearning company and we also used verdana everywhere.
It's a good font for reading on the web, but it's not good looking at all.
Right now I'm having a small crush on open sans.


Salle, is there a big focus on TL being able to work without javascript?

+ Was the elearning company that you worked for a big fan of moodle by any chance?

I don't think so. The google ads require java. I think there's some other stuff that uses it too, why?

No, I must admit I've never heard of moodle until you mentioned it. The platform we used was created in house. First one used Lotus Notes, which was a horrible mess. My first job at that company was to transfer everything by hand out of Lotus Notes website, by hand, because there was no way of exporting it regularly. Then we had a 2nd custom platform which was much better. Had a tonne of features, like forum integration, dictionary, and more. (and was made in PHP/SQL)
I don't quite get why moogle would be good, perhaps it's just their own site that puts me off, (even though it's a wiki!)
Administrator"Ambitious but rubbish!" - Jeremy Clarkson
WillS
Profile Joined September 2011
61 Posts
June 05 2013 17:42 GMT
#67
On June 05 2013 12:40 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 07:50 WillS wrote:
On June 05 2013 07:42 salle wrote:
On June 05 2013 05:54 Targe wrote:
On June 04 2013 20:31 salle wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:24 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 04 2013 17:45 salle wrote:
HawPig we should make browser specific css for the news templates, so good font browsers can see things in nice fonts and give boring ol' arial to chrome.

Browser sniffing. Ick.

We need to get the W3C working on something like a "@media all and (font-looks:shitty)" query so that we can serve nice fonts to browsers that can handle them.

Or Chrome can just like sort out their font rendering engine... it's seriously bad that the only browser that can't display google fonts well is chrome. And this has been known for a long while.

ew.

It was a response to the guy saying he used verdana on his site.
The company I used to work for was an elearning company and we also used verdana everywhere.
It's a good font for reading on the web, but it's not good looking at all.
Right now I'm having a small crush on open sans.


Salle, is there a big focus on TL being able to work without javascript?

+ Was the elearning company that you worked for a big fan of moodle by any chance?

I don't think so. The google ads require java. I think there's some other stuff that uses it too, why?

No, I must admit I've never heard of moodle until you mentioned it. The platform we used was created in house. First one used Lotus Notes, which was a horrible mess. My first job at that company was to transfer everything by hand out of Lotus Notes website, by hand, because there was no way of exporting it regularly. Then we had a 2nd custom platform which was much better. Had a tonne of features, like forum integration, dictionary, and more. (and was made in PHP/SQL)
I don't quite get why moogle would be good, perhaps it's just their own site that puts me off, (even though it's a wiki!)


Just wondering whether a server side or client side solution would be appropriate with TL for determining the client browser/OS for font rendering. I've recently had to do OS sniffing to deal with anti-aliasing fonts that contain Arabic glyphs but the code is closed source. Do you know of an open source solution that you would consider using on TL?

The only reason I really asked about moodle is a bit of an inside joke but I wanted to know if it was widely considered as useable and therefore as adopted as it is within elearning in the UK.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 06 2013 22:02 GMT
#68
On June 04 2013 13:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
But but but...
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole
?

+ Show Spoiler +

But but but...
http://shelbytatewalters.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/i-am-helvetica-a-narrative-tale/
?

+ Show Spoiler +
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
June 07 2013 13:03 GMT
#69
I'm all about that Verdana baby
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 07 2013 15:28 GMT
#70
On June 05 2013 07:42 salle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 05:54 Targe wrote:
On June 04 2013 20:31 salle wrote:
On June 04 2013 18:24 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On June 04 2013 17:45 salle wrote:
HawPig we should make browser specific css for the news templates, so good font browsers can see things in nice fonts and give boring ol' arial to chrome.

Browser sniffing. Ick.

We need to get the W3C working on something like a "@media all and (font-looks:shitty)" query so that we can serve nice fonts to browsers that can handle them.

Or Chrome can just like sort out their font rendering engine... it's seriously bad that the only browser that can't display google fonts well is chrome. And this has been known for a long while.

ew.

It was a response to the guy saying he used verdana on his site.
The company I used to work for was an elearning company and we also used verdana everywhere.
It's a good font for reading on the web, but it's not good looking at all.
Right now I'm having a small crush on open sans.


This blog makes me feel bad for only using helvetica everywhere -.-
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
June 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#71
On the picture you provided in the OP Arial looks way better.
oh, hai
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
June 07 2013 16:58 GMT
#72
Somehow my Google Chrome browser shows nearly all text as Helvetica-Neue condensed bold. I almost threw my computer out my window but then I switched to firefox.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
June 08 2013 01:41 GMT
#73
Thought this was going to be about DoctorHelvetica...

But good to know nonetheless
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 08 2013 06:42 GMT
#74
On June 08 2013 10:41 Foolishness wrote:
Thought this was going to be about DoctorHelvetica...

But good to know nonetheless

Perhaps I came too late to TL, but I rarely see him post comments wherever I am on the site. He is like the mysterious high post-count user you've barely seen. To me at least.
User was warned for too many mimes.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
June 12 2013 13:21 GMT
#75
You can easily fix that. It is just Chromes way of rendering some fonts.

http://www.adtrak.co.uk/blog/font-face-chrome-rendering/

Helvetica is fine. Just use it the correct way...
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
June 12 2013 18:50 GMT
#76
On June 08 2013 15:42 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 10:41 Foolishness wrote:
Thought this was going to be about DoctorHelvetica...

But good to know nonetheless

Perhaps I came too late to TL, but I rarely see him post comments wherever I am on the site. He is like the mysterious high post-count user you've barely seen. To me at least.


about a 10k chunk of his posts are him calling me stupid in mafia games.
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