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blip.tv doesnt like gaming related content, beware

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FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
February 20 2013 19:30 GMT
#1
http://support.blip.tv/entries/23138228-Pro-Accounts-Discontinuation-FAQ

So, I've got a web show that I hosted on blip.tv (where I was a pro user - I will leave out the name of the show to avoid spamming, but you can find it easily enough if you check my posting history). One day, I noticed that I could no longer choose YouTube as a distribution partner. That seemed weird, but I figured it wasnt any big deal - temporary bug or something. Next I noticed that my show didnt appear in searches anymore on the site. Then, I found the above link.

I emailed them, to get clarification on things, and when I finally heard back from support (nearly a week later - I submitted my request last thursday) I was told that my content was not welcome on blip.tv.

Now, to be clear, I wasnt just hosting gameplay footage or things like that. I had a weekly, episodic show, with interviews, game analysis, etc... Certainly nothing less episodic than, say, Day9's show (which is also on blip).

So, if you were doing anything related to gaming on blip.tv, beware. They may remove you from search and remove all your distribution partners without telling you, and continue to enjoy the views/revenue you bring to them. My own show was nothing great, but I sent several thousand hits to them at least.


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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 20 2013 19:39 GMT
#2
How do we know it's gaming-related and not just your content in particular?
Meaning, have others voiced similar issues?
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icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
February 20 2013 19:45 GMT
#3
Since you dont hold the rights to any of the gameplay footage it is really difficult to decide if it is fair use or if it is not. You could just host the content on your own.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
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FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
February 20 2013 19:46 GMT
#4
that's an excellent/fair point. It is difficult to prove that its "gaming" specifically, though they do call out some gaming-related things in the link I posted above as "not acceptable"

you are correct that, per their ToS, they could simply not consider my show sufficiently high quality, etc..

But, searching around a bunch of the blip.tv support boards, I did find many other instances of folks with gaming shows who faced a similar fate to myself.

when I get off work I will attempt to find some specific examples for you.

I suspect that this is REALLY a matter of them trying to cut down massively on the content that they just dont like (or feel is not high enough quality) to reduce costs, and that gaming stuff tends to just be a relatively easy target, under those requirements.

they arent particularly clear on how they define things, or how they provide exceptions.
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FilthyRake
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 19:55:40
February 20 2013 19:47 GMT
#5
On February 21 2013 04:45 icydergosu wrote:
Since you dont hold the rights to any of the gameplay footage it is really difficult to decide if it is fair use or if it is not. You could just host the content on your own.

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html



this is silly, since a.) blizzard explicitly allows usage of their gameplay footage in their video usage ToS for youtube/blip/etc.. and b.) many of my shows are interviews with pro players/etc and so contain no gameplay footage anyway.

just for clarification, here is blizzard's video policy:
http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/videopolicy.html

the relevant stuff is here (see the last sentence):
Note that Blizzard Entertainment's restriction that Productions be limited to "non-commercial" uses also means that you may not license a Production you have created to another company for a fee, or for any other form of compensation, without specific written permission from Blizzard Entertainment to do so. Blizzard Entertainment reserves the right to use its products for all commercial purposes. The only exceptions to this rule are if you participate in partner programs with YouTube, Justin.tv, Blip.tv, Own3d.tv, or Ustream.tv (the �Production Websites�) whereby a Production Website may pay you for views of a Production if you are accepted into their partner program.
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icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-20 20:04:50
February 20 2013 20:01 GMT
#6
Thanks - that is interesting,

my guess is that blip is just cleaning house, focusing on (mostly non gaming - with some exceptions) popular, well produced, shows.

Well thats the problem if you don't host the content yourself, you are at the mercy of someone else.

However, i doubt that their "go fuck yourself" attitude is going to get them very far. If they wanted a closed plattform they should have made it invite only.
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