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YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 07 2013 14:06 GMT
#21
I can never understand guilt tripping blogs like these, and then later it is always revealed that the author is suffering from depression so maybe we're not speaking the same language and I will not get through to you.

The moment has passed, the deed is already commited. The only thing that is left for you is to choose the best possible outcome to the situation at hand. If you are really sorry, you never do any of it again. It doesn't benefit the hobo or anyone else if you are penalized by an institution and so that is not necessary for repentance. It is entierly possible with sound philosophy to concern for yourself and still be good to the people around this. You are intellectual and therefore privileged with a variety of tools and broadened spectrum to interpret a meaning behind all that is ,you know all of this already.
I would think you owe it to yourself to stop looking for self-pity and be the best that you can be. There is no magic sprinkle dust for other people you have to mold yourself, maybe you will even have to work harder because you have more potential?
How facinating for you, I envy you because this is the only life I will ever voyeur and my only means of expressing the world and you will only ever have your life to live, embrace it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24700 Posts
February 07 2013 14:45 GMT
#22
On February 07 2013 17:24 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 11:16 micronesia wrote:
On February 07 2013 08:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
@ QuanticHawk : the guy stopped in the middle of the right lane, I was on the left one and went on full speed.

So the road was clear/green/etc, you drove past a jaywalking pedestrian, and then a cop pulled you over? Yea, you should start to slow down whenever in doubt like that (not necessarily slam on the brakes so you don't get rear ended) but the cop should be talking to the pedestrian in that case rather than you.

Don't know about the US etc, but in Sweden, the car is pretty much always considered "responsible" since it's the more powerful actor so to speak. Obviously in ridiculous cases (which this might be if the hobo just walked out in front of a car) the driver might be blameless, but it's always considered the responsibility of the driver to not run people over, you have to always be ready to break or handle the situation accordingly because if there was a chance you could have saved the situation, the blame will be on you.

Sure, but if nobody got hit/hurt, then there is no need to blame the driver for doing what drivers normally do. It was the pedestrian who almost created a ridiculous situation.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32073 Posts
February 07 2013 14:46 GMT
#23
On February 07 2013 17:24 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 11:16 micronesia wrote:
On February 07 2013 08:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
@ QuanticHawk : the guy stopped in the middle of the right lane, I was on the left one and went on full speed.

So the road was clear/green/etc, you drove past a jaywalking pedestrian, and then a cop pulled you over? Yea, you should start to slow down whenever in doubt like that (not necessarily slam on the brakes so you don't get rear ended) but the cop should be talking to the pedestrian in that case rather than you.

Don't know about the US etc, but in Sweden, the car is pretty much always considered "responsible" since it's the more powerful actor so to speak. Obviously in ridiculous cases (which this might be if the hobo just walked out in front of a car) the driver might be blameless, but it's always considered the responsibility of the driver to not run people over, you have to always be ready to break or handle the situation accordingly because if there was a chance you could have saved the situation, the blame will be on you.

Yeah you'd be responsible in the US too, even if the person was a fucking idiot jaywalking a highway. cops probably wouldnt charge for you anything if it was the pedestrian who ran out like a mornon, but if that person survives, you can bet their insurance company is calling yours.

On February 07 2013 11:16 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 08:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
@ QuanticHawk : the guy stopped in the middle of the right lane, I was on the left one and went on full speed.

So the road was clear/green/etc, you drove past a jaywalking pedestrian, and then a cop pulled you over? Yea, you should start to slow down whenever in doubt like that (not necessarily slam on the brakes so you don't get rear ended) but the cop should be talking to the pedestrian in that case rather than you.


Yeah the worst thing you can do on a busy highway or street like that is slam the breaks to a total stop. That's how the driver behind you ends up sitting on your lap.

You should slow down but I dont get why you feel so guilty over this because it seems like this guy was a total retard and/or might have had a death wish.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 16:59:43
February 07 2013 16:58 GMT
#24
On February 07 2013 23:06 YoucriedWolf wrote:
I can never understand guilt tripping blogs like these, and then later it is always revealed that the author is suffering from depression so maybe we're not speaking the same language and I will not get through to you.

The moment has passed, the deed is already commited. The only thing that is left for you is to choose the best possible outcome to the situation at hand. If you are really sorry, you never do any of it again. It doesn't benefit the hobo or anyone else if you are penalized by an institution and so that is not necessary for repentance. It is entierly possible with sound philosophy to concern for yourself and still be good to the people around this. You are intellectual and therefore privileged with a variety of tools and broadened spectrum to interpret a meaning behind all that is ,you know all of this already.
I would think you owe it to yourself to stop looking for self-pity and be the best that you can be. There is no magic sprinkle dust for other people you have to mold yourself, maybe you will even have to work harder because you have more potential?
How facinating for you, I envy you because this is the only life I will ever voyeur and my only means of expressing the world and you will only ever have your life to live, embrace it.

I am not looking for self pity. I am not sure I understand the last two sentences, sorry.
Edit : I'm proud of who I am, or at least a good part of it.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
February 07 2013 19:26 GMT
#25
On February 07 2013 17:24 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 11:16 micronesia wrote:
On February 07 2013 08:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
@ QuanticHawk : the guy stopped in the middle of the right lane, I was on the left one and went on full speed.

So the road was clear/green/etc, you drove past a jaywalking pedestrian, and then a cop pulled you over? Yea, you should start to slow down whenever in doubt like that (not necessarily slam on the brakes so you don't get rear ended) but the cop should be talking to the pedestrian in that case rather than you.

Don't know about the US etc, but in Sweden, the car is pretty much always considered "responsible" since it's the more powerful actor so to speak. Obviously in ridiculous cases (which this might be if the hobo just walked out in front of a car) the driver might be blameless, but it's always considered the responsibility of the driver to not run people over, you have to always be ready to break or handle the situation accordingly because if there was a chance you could have saved the situation, the blame will be on you.

In the U.S. it depends, but usually the car driver is considered the guilty one, like Sweden,\.
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YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
February 08 2013 12:42 GMT
#26
On February 08 2013 01:58 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 23:06 YoucriedWolf wrote:
I can never understand guilt tripping blogs like these, and then later it is always revealed that the author is suffering from depression so maybe we're not speaking the same language and I will not get through to you.

The moment has passed, the deed is already commited. The only thing that is left for you is to choose the best possible outcome to the situation at hand. If you are really sorry, you never do any of it again. It doesn't benefit the hobo or anyone else if you are penalized by an institution and so that is not necessary for repentance. It is entierly possible with sound philosophy to concern for yourself and still be good to the people around this. You are intellectual and therefore privileged with a variety of tools and broadened spectrum to interpret a meaning behind all that is ,you know all of this already.
I would think you owe it to yourself to stop looking for self-pity and be the best that you can be. There is no magic sprinkle dust for other people you have to mold yourself, maybe you will even have to work harder because you have more potential?
How facinating for you, I envy you because this is the only life I will ever voyeur and my only means of expressing the world and you will only ever have your life to live, embrace it.

I am not looking for self pity. I am not sure I understand the last two sentences, sorry.
Edit : I'm proud of who I am, or at least a good part of it.

Why is it not? You are upset, not because you're at fault but because you choose to be. You are wishing traits upon yourself that you don't possess and this is the source of your grievance?
I agree with you, I suspect you have reason to be proud of you (and that's only the part I know of!) and I don't think there is ever reason to sell yourself short because of that. If you wish for something you have all the means you need to educate yourself.
The two sentences means the same as the rest of what I wrote. There is no reason to be depressed, you should enjoy the challenge.
Feynman said something nice if it's not entierly related, at least I come to think of it.
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"Poets say science takes away from the beauty of the stars -- mere globs of
gas atoms. Nothing is "mere." I too can see the stars on a desert night,
and feel them. But do I see less or more? The vastness of the heavens
stretches my imagination -- stuck on this carousel my little eye can catch
one million year old light... What is the pattern, or the meaning, or the
why? It does not do harm to the mystery to know a little about it. For
far more marvelous is the truth than any artists of the past imagined! Why
do the poets of the present not speak of it? What men are poets who can
speak of Jupiter as if he were like a man, but if he is an immense spinning
sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?"


So basically, what I said was #YOLO
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