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Edit: Read all of my posts in the thread before replying, please.
So, I have a lot of trouble motivating myself. I don't mean to start laddering like most people- I mean after a long game or series of short games which I lost. I start making the same mistakes over and over and over, and can't get out of it for the life of me. This restricts my ladder sessions to about 2-3 games on average.
How do you get out of this downward spiral? I've heard that you have to take a break- for me that break usually entails the rest of the day, or at least a couple of hours.
Edit: This is not about ladder points. This is about me losing, and being down after a loss. Ladder points, rank, league, have nothing to do with it.
 
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Laddering is simple when you don't let rank effect how you play. When HotS comes out I know a lot of people will find themselves being able to ladder a lot easier and get more practice in than they ever did in WoL  I used to have a lot of ladder anxiety and would find myself making a lot of mistakes after a grueling loss. I would just take a break and play something else (it's seriously the only thing i've ever done). I know i'm going to lose some games but in reality all i can do is look back on it and analyze why I lost it. Once you start to do that then you stop making the same mistakes every game and find yourself without ladder anxiety or problems with playing!
Get out there and do some laddering, you will only get better with each game!
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don't play to win, play to improve. focus on something special and try to improve that part of your game. (i.e. not getting supply blocked, keeping mins low, scouting well, etc.) try to stop caring about your win percentage. if you win, it's fine, if you lose...well, it's fine too! you'll never lose more than approximately 50% of your games, unless you're one of the worst players out there. I overcame my personal ladder anxiety with this strategy. (A few days ago, I was on a 7 game loss streak, and ofc I was a bit pissed. I decided to pull off a proxy hatch in the 8th game of that session, and it worked. The seven losses were forgotten and I was able to finish my session with a smile on my face.)
And try to be realistic on yourself. Watch your replays. Be honest about your own mistakes.
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Don't ladder. Go find some obs games or start your own. You'll be able to play without any threat of losing points, even though you won't win any either. Work out things. In peepmode sometimes I'll get a few players courteous enough to help me with certain gameplay styles or matchups.
When you feel confident again, try out a few ladder games.
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OK, I think I was unclear.
Watching my own games in replays just makes me angry at myself. Especially the bad ones. I know that I make around 9,001 mistakes each game, that isn't the issue.
Ladder points aren't the issue either.
It's more that when I lose, I get angry at myself, and 'deflate' for lack of a better word.
I will focus on improving one thing at a time, thanks for that tip guys.
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Don't beat yourself up bro. Laddering aint easy. It may be rewarding, but it is also a slog. Give yourself time to get into it.
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just think "infestor op" and start the next game
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Just accept that you are a super bad player and that you lack skill. To solve this issue, it is very simple : you need to practice a lot and analyze your games. If you lose, it is only because you didn't practice enough.
edit : no offense meant, that just works for me .. so .. why not for you.
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This sounds like it's not a SC2 issue, it's a personal issue which could easily apply to other things in life. You're too emotionally invested in it if you get angry at your mistakes in it. Detach yourself more from it when laddering and practicing. I don't have any better advice because a lot depends on your religious beliefs in life or the lack thereof as to what kind of advice I can give you for controlling your temper, but you shouldn't be getting angry at your lack of ability at a game, in my humble opinion.
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dont get mad at urself. know that u learn from those mistakes. even if u make the same mistake. dont get mad at urself. starcraft is a hard game. just know that u get better everytime. and try not to make the same mistakes. sc2 is a training. u train yourself to not to hate urself even if u make mistakes. dont take it so hard. ur constantly improving after each game anyway.
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On December 25 2012 06:38 Birdie wrote:
This sounds like it's not a SC2 issue, it's a personal issue which could easily apply to other things in life. You're too emotionally invested in it if you get angry at your mistakes in it. Detach yourself more from it when laddering and practicing. I don't have any better advice because a lot depends on your religious beliefs in life or the lack thereof as to what kind of advice I can give you for controlling your temper, but you shouldn't be getting angry at your lack of ability at a game, in my humble opinion.
I think you're right.
Any advice on how to 'detach' myself?
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Play so many games that a single game simply does not matter
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I hear people say this a lot, I'm actually the opposite way when it comes to motivation. The more I lose the more it makes me want to queue up for another game, if I win a few in a row I become satisfied with my performance and stop for the day.
I think you should think of it like this, never go into a ladder session with the goal of trying to win a certain number of games or keep a % of wins, go into it wanting to have fun. Lose as many times as you want, as long as you're having fun that's all that matters. You're not a professional gamer, games are meant to be fun right? Motivate yourself with goals that don't have to do with wins or losses like trying out a new build or strategy. It's normal to be frustrated after a stupid loss, accept the anger and use it to motivate you to want to do better in the next game. Just don't take it super seriously, that's the wrong way to go about things.
Also, if you have HOTS beta, just play that instead of WOL. I find it a lot more fun, I don't even play WOL anymore personally.
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On December 25 2012 08:40 Fencar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 06:38 Birdie wrote:
This sounds like it's not a SC2 issue, it's a personal issue which could easily apply to other things in life. You're too emotionally invested in it if you get angry at your mistakes in it. Detach yourself more from it when laddering and practicing. I don't have any better advice because a lot depends on your religious beliefs in life or the lack thereof as to what kind of advice I can give you for controlling your temper, but you shouldn't be getting angry at your lack of ability at a game, in my humble opinion. I think you're right. Any advice on how to 'detach' myself?
Well, why do you get emotionally invested in it? I treat practice and laddering the way I do exercise, and tournament games the way I do a soccer match. So I get emotionally pumped for tournament games, but when I'm practicing I expect to fail and look forward to it so I can learn.
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I know you likely hear this a lot, but I just view ladder the same way I view joining a clan or a channel to get practice games, I want to maximize the amount of games I can play, so I can do blank. Blank being your goal, be it clan wars, tournaments, or getting to masters. If you're goal is masters/gm it's harder, but I would suggest getting a smurf account to grind games, and your main account to level. Best of luck, and Merry Christmas
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On December 25 2012 13:48 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2012 08:40 Fencar wrote:On December 25 2012 06:38 Birdie wrote:
This sounds like it's not a SC2 issue, it's a personal issue which could easily apply to other things in life. You're too emotionally invested in it if you get angry at your mistakes in it. Detach yourself more from it when laddering and practicing. I don't have any better advice because a lot depends on your religious beliefs in life or the lack thereof as to what kind of advice I can give you for controlling your temper, but you shouldn't be getting angry at your lack of ability at a game, in my humble opinion. I think you're right. Any advice on how to 'detach' myself? Well, why do you get emotionally invested in it? I treat practice and laddering the way I do exercise, and tournament games the way I do a soccer match. So I get emotionally pumped for tournament games, but when I'm practicing I expect to fail and look forward to it so I can learn.
I don't know. I suppose I have high expectations of myself, so I try to do as well as the best I've done, and when that doesn't happen I get mad at myself and feel like I'm not getting anywhere.
I'll adopt your mindset and see how that goes.
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