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BurninLegion
Profile Joined December 2011
United States14 Posts
November 12 2012 21:53 GMT
#21
On November 12 2012 15:12 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 14:51 Entirety wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:03 Waxangel wrote:
this all reminds me of that one season MVP engineered a PERFECT group for not just himself, but Nestea as well


Which season are you referring to?


ah found it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308029#one



Ironically, that was the season that not only MVP was eliminated, but also Nestea bombed out of his group.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33369 Posts
November 12 2012 23:02 GMT
#22
On November 13 2012 06:53 BurninLegion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 15:12 Waxangel wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:51 Entirety wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:03 Waxangel wrote:
this all reminds me of that one season MVP engineered a PERFECT group for not just himself, but Nestea as well


Which season are you referring to?


ah found it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308029#one



Ironically, that was the season that not only MVP was eliminated, but also Nestea bombed out of his group.


yah, it was funny since the group was sooo good on paper
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Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 23:27:45
November 12 2012 23:27 GMT
#23
I found my first sig-quote. Thanks.

It also has the advantage of never being out of date.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#24
On November 13 2012 08:02 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 06:53 BurninLegion wrote:
On November 12 2012 15:12 Waxangel wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:51 Entirety wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:03 Waxangel wrote:
this all reminds me of that one season MVP engineered a PERFECT group for not just himself, but Nestea as well


Which season are you referring to?


ah found it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308029#one



Ironically, that was the season that not only MVP was eliminated, but also Nestea bombed out of his group.


yah, it was funny since the group was sooo good on paper


That was such a depressing season for an IM fan. But I do love GuMiHo and DRG so it was okay after all.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 13 2012 03:01 GMT
#25
ahahah lol nice job
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
November 13 2012 08:07 GMT
#26
Do you have a mole in these team houses eavesdropping or something?

For those who didn't know, the author was hyping Life up 8 months ago.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
November 13 2012 10:26 GMT
#27
Hehe, I enjoyed reading that and I agree.
Jaedong <3
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 13 2012 18:20 GMT
#28
On November 13 2012 17:07 sambo400 wrote:
Do you have a mole in these team houses eavesdropping or something?

For those who didn't know, the author was hyping Life up 8 months ago.


I watch and I learn. Also, I drew up a heuristic model of talent evaluation and it judged players like Creator, Life, and Symbol would be the next big names.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
November 13 2012 18:28 GMT
#29
Damn, now I'm really curious what a model like that would look like.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 13 2012 18:35 GMT
#30
On November 14 2012 03:28 sambo400 wrote:
Damn, now I'm really curious what a model like that would look like.


It's a lot less impressive than you think. ^_^
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1057 Posts
November 13 2012 19:12 GMT
#31
All of the picks were reasonable (though perhaps not prime picks) except Soulkey's. I have a theory for him.

I think he believes that he'll be in Code S Ro16s many more times in the future. However, he probably doesn't believe that this is his season yet. So maybe he's wasting this season to set himself up for the future. If he gets known as the guy who will create groups of death by picking one of the toughest opponents, would you pick Soulkey first? Probably not. Instead, the next time he makes Ro16, people are going to shy away from him because they don't want the group of death. So even if his skill makes him a 1st round pick, he'll probably get left until late round 2 or even sneak into round 3... thus getting an easier group in the future.

Alternative explanation: his coach picked up something exploitable in Leenock's play and we'll see it come out if Soulkey gets to play Leenock.
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 13 2012 21:25 GMT
#32
When MKP is your voice of reason in a group nomination... you are in trouble
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
November 14 2012 07:14 GMT
#33
On November 14 2012 03:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 03:28 sambo400 wrote:
Damn, now I'm really curious what a model like that would look like.


It's a lot less impressive than you think. ^_^


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players ?
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sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
November 14 2012 07:57 GMT
#34
On November 14 2012 16:14 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 03:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 14 2012 03:28 sambo400 wrote:
Damn, now I'm really curious what a model like that would look like.


It's a lot less impressive than you think. ^_^


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players ?

Thats what it looked like a year ago
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 14 2012 14:06 GMT
#35
On November 13 2012 03:22 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Creator beating DRG was somewhat expected. Creator has had DRG's number for quite some time. Ryung making it through...ROFL. Who would've thunk it? Did Curious and DRG play terribly or was Ryung engaged in God-mode?

Wow I got spotlighted!


Well Ryung has proved he's one of the best late game TvZer on big maps, he might be the best lategame player overall in term of army movements and people played in his hands with map picks. Add some awesome timings (g1 vs Curious) and cheeses and you got what's needed to get trough. With only 1P Ryung is imo a good dark horse considering he's probably the best TvTer left and his TvZ looks really promising.
Zest fanboy.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 14 2012 19:41 GMT
#36
On November 14 2012 16:14 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 03:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 14 2012 03:28 sambo400 wrote:
Damn, now I'm really curious what a model like that would look like.


It's a lot less impressive than you think. ^_^


http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/players ?


I would never use Elo to judge anything about a player's potential. >_>
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
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