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tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
October 03 2012 03:12 GMT
#1
Top 10. Liquid, EG, ROX.KIS, Acer, aTn, coL, k3, Dignitas Empire, root, millenium, quantic, light

Hi! this is my opinion please use polls!

1. Evil Geniuses

2. Liquid

3. Complexity

4. Acer

5. Millenium

6. Rox.KIS

7. Root

8. Empire

9.K3

10. Dignitas


Honorable Mention: Quantic, aTn, Light

Poll: EG?

Too high (13)
 
68%

Well placed (5)
 
26%

Too low (1)
 
5%

19 total votes

Your vote: EG?

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: Liquid?

Too low (6)
 
50%

Well placed (4)
 
33%

Too high (2)
 
17%

12 total votes

Your vote: Liquid?

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: Col?

Too high (8)
 
89%

Well placed (1)
 
11%

Too low (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Col?

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: Acer?

Well placed (4)
 
40%

Too high (3)
 
30%

Too low (3)
 
30%

10 total votes

Your vote: Acer?

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: Millenium?

Too low (4)
 
44%

Well placed (3)
 
33%

Too high (2)
 
22%

9 total votes

Your vote: Millenium?

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: ROX.KIS

Too high (7)
 
88%

Well placed (1)
 
13%

Too low (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: ROX.KIS

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: ROOT

Too low (4)
 
50%

Too high (2)
 
25%

Well placed (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: ROOT

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed



Poll: Empire

Too low (4)
 
44%

Well placed (4)
 
44%

Too high (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Empire

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: K3

Too low (5)
 
71%

Too high (1)
 
14%

Well placed (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: K3

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed




Poll: Dignitas

Too high (7)
 
88%

Well placed (1)
 
13%

Too low (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Dignitas

(Vote): Too high
(Vote): Too low
(Vote): Well placed





*
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
October 03 2012 03:19 GMT
#2
I actually think TL should be above EG, I mean they have 2 players in Code S atm who are possible (arguably Taeja is championship quality already) contenders for the championship, while EG just has a group of players who decently in foreign events.
"HotBid [11:45 AM]: i dunno i kinda like the big muta shooting smaller mutas out"
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10509 Posts
October 03 2012 03:26 GMT
#3
spoiler the polls imo. ton of scroll work to do.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States403 Posts
October 03 2012 03:57 GMT
#4
Just some feedback, Try leaving a reason as to why you placed each team like you did. AKA Liquid - Hero has had an amazing run in the GSL. ect ect.
m3rciless
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1476 Posts
October 03 2012 04:01 GMT
#5
Liquid has 2 code s players, EG has what, stephano?
White-Ra fighting!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 03 2012 04:07 GMT
#6
Empire liquid and k3 should have been higher, just about everyone else was way to high, Quantic should be way higher up than honorable mention.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 03 2012 06:01 GMT
#7
EG fanboy making the poll...Why is EG at first place?What did they achieve recently?k3 is ridiculously low...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
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Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 06:14:02
October 03 2012 06:10 GMT
#8
Well, EG just 5-1ed SlayerS. Stephano is the best non-korean in a world by a clear margin, Puma posts good results, HuK is still able to play with koreans, Thorzain is still able to play with koreans.

Liquid has 2 players in Code S, but their pool is a lot shallower beyond their two korean players.

As far as a "Best Non-Korean Team" poll goes, I don't see a problem with EG being #1 over Liquid when you consider that EG still has most of their big players if you eliminate koreans and Liquid has...Sheth.

EDIT: And Ret.
3 Hatch Before Cool
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 07:56:56
October 03 2012 07:55 GMT
#9
Not going to comment on the top 2 since it's a very hard call.

I think you over rate:
coL (wayyyy overrated)
Dignitas (what do they still have? Bischu is doing well recently but seleCt has really fallen off)
Millenium (Tarson is like decent at best and he's their ace now right?)
I think you underrate:
Empire (by a lot)
Quantic (pretty deep roster actually..Stc Sase Illusion Hawk State all the vile guys are really good)
Also you completely forgot mouz.. They're not as strong as they were but they could still kick the asses of most teams on that list. I disagree with almost everything on this team rank.

synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 03 2012 07:56 GMT
#10
On October 03 2012 15:01 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
EG fanboy making the poll...Why is EG at first place?What did they achieve recently?k3 is ridiculously low...

I mean if he's basing it purely on potential, the recent acquisition of Stephano would certainly put EG up there...
:)
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 03 2012 09:48 GMT
#11
On October 03 2012 16:55 Bojas wrote:
Not going to comment on the top 2 since it's a very hard call.

I think you over rate:
coL (wayyyy overrated)
Dignitas (what do they still have? Bischu is doing well recently but seleCt has really fallen off)
Millenium (Tarson is like decent at best and he's their ace now right?)
I think you underrate:
Empire (by a lot)
Quantic (pretty deep roster actually..Stc Sase Illusion Hawk State all the vile guys are really good)
Also you completely forgot mouz.. They're not as strong as they were but they could still kick the asses of most teams on that list. I disagree with almost everything on this team rank.


JonnyRecco is on dignitas right?
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tjtombo
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States295 Posts
October 03 2012 19:15 GMT
#12
On October 03 2012 15:01 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
EG fanboy making the poll...Why is EG at first place?What did they achieve recently?k3 is ridiculously low...

EG isnt even my favorite team at all. However i was torn between a first of EG and Liquid but i went EG just because they are doing very well in IPTL (beating liquid). What have they done recently? Stephano cleaned house in wcs Europe
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
October 03 2012 20:29 GMT
#13
On October 03 2012 18:48 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 16:55 Bojas wrote:
Not going to comment on the top 2 since it's a very hard call.

I think you over rate:
coL (wayyyy overrated)
Dignitas (what do they still have? Bischu is doing well recently but seleCt has really fallen off)
Millenium (Tarson is like decent at best and he's their ace now right?)
I think you underrate:
Empire (by a lot)
Quantic (pretty deep roster actually..Stc Sase Illusion Hawk State all the vile guys are really good)
Also you completely forgot mouz.. They're not as strong as they were but they could still kick the asses of most teams on that list. I disagree with almost everything on this team rank.


JonnyRecco is on dignitas right?

Oh that's true. I forgot ForGG on Mill as well. However I still don't think they justify their rank.
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