EPTKarlWarkov already posted his Top30 Foreigners September: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=363667
My last ranking (Top 30 Koreans August): http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=357581
Introduction
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There is always a lot of discussion who the best SC2 players are. Some automated ELO rankings like TLPD (or sc2charts.net) provide an idea but are not satisfying. Based on KalWarkov`s Top30 Foreigner Ranking, I present you my Top30 Koreans.
The players should be ranked by their current overall skill.
To judge this, obviously recent results count more, but a GSL win doesnt put you on #1 automically and an established player who is slumping a bit won't fall too far.
I hope we can get a nice discussion going like in the other thread. I will regard your opinions for the next ranking. Please consider that the skill-gaps are pretty small and there is no real difference between 3-4 places (especially in the lower part).
I could give explanations why I placed the players in this order but I guess I wait for your critics.
The players should be ranked by their current overall skill.
To judge this, obviously recent results count more, but a GSL win doesnt put you on #1 automically and an established player who is slumping a bit won't fall too far.
I hope we can get a nice discussion going like in the other thread. I will regard your opinions for the next ranking. Please consider that the skill-gaps are pretty small and there is no real difference between 3-4 places (especially in the lower part).
I could give explanations why I placed the players in this order but I guess I wait for your critics.
Ranking
1. (0)
TaeJa (Liquid)2. (0)
MC (SK)3. (+2)
Squirtle (Startale)4. (0)
DongRaeGu (MVP)5. (+2)
Seed (IM)6. (-3)
MarineKing (Prime)7. (+1)
Symbol (TSL)8. (+6)
Creator (Prime)9. (-3)
Byun (Prime)10. (+1)
MVP (IM)11. (-2)
NesTea (IM)12. (0)
HerO (Liquid)13. (+4)
PartinG (Startale)14. (+2)
Leenock (FXO)15. (-2)
Curious (Startale)16. (+3)
Life (Startale)17. (-2)
MMA (Slayers)18. (-8)
CoCa (Slayers)19. (+3)
Puzzle (Slayers)20. (+5)
GuMiho (FXO)21. (+6)
Sniper (MVP)22.(-1)
San (NS HoSeo)23. (-3)
Alicia (Slayers)24. (0)
Genius (Slayers)25. (+1)
Polt (TSL)26. (+4)
viOLet (Azubu)27. (*)
First (IM)28. (*)
HyuN (TSL)29. (*)
SuperNova (mtw)30. (-7)
Jjakji (NS HoSeo)Dropped Out: aLive (Fnatic), Oz (Fnatic), YoDa (IM)
Close but no cigar (lol terrans): Happy (IM), Bomber (Startale), Ryung (Slayers), Hack (Startale), Heart (coL), Keen (MvP), Vampire (MvP), LosirA (IM), and of course the dropped out players
Teams: Slayers 5, IM 4, Startale 4, Prime 3, TSL 3, Liquid 2, MVP 2, FXO 2, NsHoseo 2, SK 1, Azubu 1, mtw 1
What about KeSPA players?
For now I exclude them, because we haven't seen enough of them to rank them accordingly.
Explanation on changes
I also made a few changes based on your reponses to the last ranking. Mainly dropping Byun and Coca a bit.
For korean tournaments, there basically only was WCS and the Up&Downs in the last month. You can't value a Bo1 in OSL too much. So there are several players with (almost) no results. And therefore there weren't too many big changes in the ranking.
- Taeja found his nemesis in First which eliminated him from TSL and MLG. He won Assembly, was 7-1 vs IM in the IPL TAC finals and still beat 7 others koreans at MLG. He retains his top seed over MC who got two second places at Assembly and IEM.
- We didnt see a lot of MKP and DRG in the last month. MKP disappointed at MLG, DRG at WCS. I won't value the Bo1 in OSL too much. Can anyone pass them? Squirtle did well in WCS, getting second. But also lost in TSL to Curious and a showmatch to Hyun. Seed did ok-ish in WCS (3-2 record), Symbol only played some euro cups. I give Squirtle the small edge and thus rank 3. MKP will fall behind DRG and Seed. But its very close and we need to see more.
- Creator seems to be the biggest winner though he didnt qualify for Code S through up&downs. He won WCS and made the final of TSL.
- Leenock is on the comeback as well. Please notice that he didnt need to beat any Code S players to win MLG. Korean WCS is valued a lot higher. Where Leenock didnt do well. Thus Parting gets placed above him.
- HerO only lost to the later winner Creator in WCS, won 4 other matches and then forfeited. He also dominated his up&down group. MLG was ok-ish. He doesnt move up because he gets passed by Creator, but he gets closer to Nestea+MVP.
- Sniper was doubted by some of you. He just qualified for Code S with a 3-0 record.
- Oz' month was a total disaster. 0-3 in Up&downs, 0-3 at MLG and lost to Targa and Grubby at IEM. I first dropped him down near the end and when I searched for players to fall out of the ranking, I realized it had to be him. Other players move down several spots for a little disappointing results, so falling from 18 to out of the ranking, is justified for Oz.
- First is one new player on the list. A lot of you demanded him last time. Now he really deserves it with a 2nd place at MLG and beating Taeja in TSL as well. He still has to prove against more high ranked koreans to be placed higher. As of now he 'only' beat Taeja and HerO.
- aLive also drops out due to weak up&downs and MLG. Oh well, tough month for Fnatic (both players falling out of Top30).
- That makes place for Hyun, the second new player. He dominates the IPL showmatches and european competition in online cups. Still the only big win was vs Squirtle. Like First, he needs to face top competition to move up further.
- Poor YoDa only played one match this month and will fall out. Mainly because Supernova was doing well and I thought he had to be in. You could swap those if you want.
