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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 18:26:18
August 13 2012 05:20 GMT
#1
Hello and welcome to my blog post. After roughly a year on teamliquid.net, I had accumulated exactly 999 posts, 3 warning and 2 temporary bans (I tend to get overzealous in online arguments but enough about that). Also during that time, I learned about the TL custom where some people would make a special post on their 1000th and I didn't want to waste mine. So it all stopped. I was so intent on not wasting my 1000th post that I completely stopped posting at 999 for about 3 months. It was so tempting whenever I saw some blatant error I wanted to correct but I held it all in.

After all this time, I have finally been inspired to write my 1000th post and I have decided to dedicate my 1000th post to IMMVP. He was not the reason I got into starcraft (we have Husky to thank for that), but he is the reason I fell in love with starcraft. I got Starcraft 2 for Christmas in 2010, and the first live tournament I followed was GSL code S January, which non-coincidentally, IMMVP won in commanding fashion. That moment I picked Terran. And MVP was forever sealed into my heart as my favorite player. From then on I followed all his GSL runs, MLG runs and pretty much anything related to MVP or IM. I was one of the first 20 followers on twitter and due to their lack of fans, I was able to win a fan video contest and score this baby. + Show Spoiler +
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Anyways, my obsession with MVP continued to grow. When MVP dominated, I ranked from bronze to plat. When MVP went into his slump, I lost my passion for SC2 and played 2-3 matches a season for 6 seasons and completely lost all forward progress. I know it seems kind of dramatic but I wasn't really interested in SC2 much at all, basically just in IM, and MVP.

TL.net has been the main port where I would express my MVP fanboyism. Example: my 22nd through 31st posts were in the "Nestea/MVP to Blizzcon" thread arguing that MVP was the best and would win. (he did :D) I just counted and I have 98 posts either in MVP's fanclub, or in other threads telling everyone how MVP is the best. Including my 999th post: "MVP, flash will be famous in sc2 for taking 1 game off of him." Posted in the thread: "Who is the terran King?"
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I have made it my mission to show everyone how MVP was/is/and always will be the greatest of SC2 by making a comparison to the first and greatest of Starcraft 1: Boxer.

The first "premier" tournament Boxer won in BW was the Hanbitsoft OSL, on the 5th of May 2001. He won with a clean 3-0 sweep. During his prime, Boxer won another OSL, a MSL, and (The first real) 2 WCG gold medals. As well as 4 OSL silvers. His last win was the 2002 WCG on November 3 2002. The span between these occasions was 1 year and 7 months. During his reign, he formed one of the most powerful Broodwar teams to ever exist, SKT. While his achievements were later surpassed by later bonjwas like Nada and Flash. The fact that he was the first one to dominate made him special.

MVP's first Premiere win was GSL January 2011, on January 29 2011. He also won with a sweep. He went on to win 3 more GSLs, an MLG, the first SC2 WCG, and Blizzcon 2011, 1 GSL silver and 1 GSL code A silver. His most recent tournament win being GSL 2012 code S season 2 on May 19 2012. That puts the span between the beginning and most recent at about 1 year 6 months. He has served as a leader to his team and despite his coaches reputation for not sending effective players, IM is one of the strongest SC2 teams win 1 GSTL, 2 IPL TACs and a GSTL silver. MVP's list of accomplishments has not ye been surpassed, Starcraft 2 is still young and since his relative fall, nobody has taken a clear lead for any substantial amount of time. And even if he is surpassed, should not MVP be remembered as the first great player?

What does every legend have in common? A rival; Boxer had Yellow. Boxer and Yellow met in numerous finals, Boxer winning them all. When Starcraft 2 came around, Marineking started accumulating silver too. This led to the immediate comparison of him to Yellow, the sucessor to the Kong line. But what people fail to recognize, is the legend in the room. Who did MKP lose to in GSL January? MVP. Who did MKP lose to in the GSL WC? MVP. Who did MKP lose to in the WCG Korea final? MVP. Who knocked MKP out of MLG Providence? MVP. You get the picture. It always kind of bugged me when people only made half of the comparison.
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Boxer was known in BW as an innovator, always creating exciting games with new strategies. MVP certainly isn't nearly as known for that but he has made some great contributions. Notably this. [image loading]
Yeah, we have MVP to blame for the mass ghost style and the subsequent ghost nerf. He also was one of the first to make mass BC in TvP and pure skyterran lategame TvZ.

While I know many of you will just say: "Boxer's the best, nobody will ever be Boxer." And you are right. Boxer played a unique role in the rise of esports. Nobody has the charisma and dedication he has shown over the years. And he still plays an active role today. But one cannot miss the similarities MVP has shown in the early days of SC2 and I hope he sticks to it for years to come.
Thank you for reading.


TLDR: MVP is epic and has many parallels with Boxer which I think people should recognize more.







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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 13 2012 05:43 GMT
#2
Yes, Mvp is my all-time favorite player! I don't watch that much StarCraft 2, but I watch Mvp.

When I watched GSL October Finals, I felt gutted. When I watched BlizzCon the next day, I felt absolutely stunned by his ghost usage. That game almost made me think Terran OP, even though it's my own race! (In the end, I concluded Mvp OP)

I watched his finals against XiGua and fell in love with his multitasking. I watched his GSL Ace Invitational win where he literally played tournaments within hours of each other. He won each one, winning WCG Korea against MarineKing pretty convincingly. The only games I watched from IronSquid were Mvp, and they were heartbreaking.

Mvp is truly inspiring, and I think he will always have a legacy. That doesn't mean he's out yet, he will surely come back.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 05:54:16
August 13 2012 05:53 GMT
#3
5/5 for Mvp

Glad to see another fan <3

I've always had a joke for him, whenever he'd do something awesome, I'd say "Mvp is BETTER THAN YOU" and someone else says "AND HE KNOWS IT", or something to that regard. sometimes its "Mvp is the best zerg in the world," or something

edit: although i'd view MMA as his rival more, MMA's also beaten him though...
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 13 2012 05:56 GMT
#4
When Mvp won GSL Season 2 2012 against Squirtle, I walked around in a happy daze all day.

Actually, scratch that, it lasted a week. I heard he got surgery during the IPL TAC 3 finals, which should mean that he'll start his reign of terror once again. I cannot wait.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
August 13 2012 06:07 GMT
#5
Entirety, your World ranking actually helped motivate me to actually write this because I saw how far ahead MVP still is lol. Thanks.
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Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
August 13 2012 06:41 GMT
#6
Wait until I add BlizzCon and WCG hehe. I love how Mvp's slump is him "only" reaching the Ro16... He's always relevant, just waiting for his opportunity to take the championship.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
August 13 2012 06:54 GMT
#7
Congrats on 1k!
Check out some great music made by TLers - http://bit.ly/QXYhdb , by intrigue. http://bit.ly/RTjpOR , by ohsea.toc.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 13 2012 07:43 GMT
#8
CONGRATS ON 1K =D
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 08:11:38
August 13 2012 08:11 GMT
#9
TL;DR Mvp is the sickest nerd baller on the planet

I approve of your message

Congrats on the 1k posts!
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 13 2012 18:24 GMT
#10
gratz on the 1000 dudem very nice blog , try not to get perma'd.
User was warned for too many mimes.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
August 13 2012 21:20 GMT
#11
Gratz on 1k, think before you post in the future, else you may be banned from a section of the forum, or worse, BANNED.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
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