Top30 Koreans August - Page 2

On August 02 2012 12:20 NrGmonk wrote:
Don't think Taeja deserves top spot just yet.
Would rate DRG above MKP. Both are slumping, but I would argue MKP slumping more.
I'm a Byun fan, but don't think he deserves 6th. Top 10 perhaps, but not 6th. Definitely below Symbol imo.
San too high even after OSL ro16. Can't justify him above Genius imo.
aLive, even thought I don't like him, should be a bit higher.
violet should be a lot higher imo.

You should make it a bit more clear what you weigh more, recent results or overall past results. Also, how much you weigh GSL/foreign LANS/online tournaments.
Also, should probably add a CBNC section.

On August 02 2012 13:50 Dodgin wrote:
I'm still really confused as to how you can put Coca so high on that list while he's in Code B and not put Losira on the top 30 who has been looking just as good as Coca recently. They have both been performing in team leagues, coca lost 0-2 in the ODT while Losira got 5th/6th at MLG. If you use old records, last year Losira was as impressive or more impressive considering he was a GSL and MLG silver medalist. They both had some time out of the spotlight due to different reasons and both came back around the same time. I have no idea how Sniper managed to get on your top 30 but Losira didn't, he lost in the ODT, lost in Code A to Hyun. He got some teamleague wins but that's about all I can find unless I'm missing something huge.

On August 02 2012 14:37 StateofReverie wrote:
supernova is like the most consistent terran player besides mvp. he like always makes it to ro8 and he isnt even on the top 30? granted i think his tvp is his best mu and tvz is weakest but he is still better then someone like polt in overall mathups in my opinion. he is though consistently in code s and has been for as long as i have been watching so that would be at least the past 4 gsls and he isnt even mentioned.....most underrate player in sc2 history because he never gets to the finals and doesnt go overseas and is only in gsl code s

edit: you also dont win gsl code s matches based on luck. there is no "luck factor" in gsl code s besides the ro32 who you get matched up against

On August 02 2012 17:57 EchelonTee wrote:
Gumiho all kills slayers

Ranked 25 =/

On August 02 2012 18:22 sVnteen wrote:
with taeja being no.1 on every ranking on TL (surprise surprise) you have got to wonder why he never gets past ro8 in gsl

On August 03 2012 01:03 00Visor wrote:
Thanks for so many responses .



I guess you could place DRG over MKP, both are slumping at a really high level though. Would like to see something more from DRG as he didnt play much lately.
Byun, I think I may have placed too high. Maybe I was a too big fanboy there, could place him directly below Symbol.
San is placed right, I think. I wondered myself and double checked his results. He already beat many good players in IPL 5 and MLG qualifiers. Then the OSL qualification (+ ro16). In ESV Grand Prix he only was stopped by Taeja. Since begin of June he got a 65% winrate. Genius wasnt too shabby either, hell, 4 places down is almost nothing.
alive and violet have been disappointing lately. Especially violet is competing in many foreign events, and I think you agree that you can't value their many wins against midtier foreigners too much as most of the Code S/A players could perform similarly if given the chance. Their winrate against other top koreans isnt good at all lately.

Sorry, what do you mean by CBNC section?

Sniper was huge in teamleagues, his combined wins in IPTL and GSTL may be the most overall. He also qualified for OSL. Overall that makes for a 66% winrate since end of June. It was not top competition and many ZvZ, so his spot is wacky, but its only at the bottom of the top30.
In qualifying for OSL alone, Coca beat JYP, Supernova and alive. Thats a bigger feat than 5/6th MLG for LosirA where LosirA only had to beat Real, Sase and alive. Coca also had the most wins in GSTL, check all his results, they are vastly superior to LosirA. I don't use records who are a year old very much.

I'm really not a Teamliquid fanboy.
But this is a ranking of current skill, not past achievements. Results in the last 2-3 months matter the most and there was only one GSL where Taeja did well and only barely lost to MC. Taeja only recently improved his skill even more and with his GSL performance and MLG win, I don't think there is anything that would stop him from going further than Ro8 (like nerve issues for example).

On August 03 2012 04:00 Jaaaaasper wrote:
This has alot of problems, but it is a subjective list, so i;ll just say that mvp in his current form (due to injury) might be too high. Taeja is looking strong, but i'm not sure he is number one overall. MKP and DRG should be flipped, and both of them dropped a few spots. This is not all that great a ranking in my opinion, but mine is worth no more that yours, so thanks for putting this out for discussion

On August 03 2012 01:03 00Visor wrote:

Regarding Supernova: Yeah, he was always stable. The last month was weak. He isnt back in Code S (yet). But maybe I was too harsh, and he deserved to be in top30 barely. But it`s difficult to put another one out. As I said, top30 is really really good, not even all Code S players would fit in there. Perhaps I should make a top50 .