EPTOn June 15 2012 08:54 sc2superfan101 wrote:
let's examine this for a moment:
the op wants to prove(?) that DOTA is a better "non-gamer" spectator "sport", specifically because this Tobi guy. right? (if i'm wrong, OP, than i apologize)
he wanted to show me a video of this caster guy at his best. he linked me to a particular moment in the video, so i assumed that that particular moment would give a "non-gamer" (to which i qualify because i never played any MOBAs and i suck at RTS) an instant attraction to the DOTA feel and to this caster. i mean, the whole point of this thing was not: "if you watch a lot of DOTA then you'll love this guy!" it was literally "if you don't watch any DOTA or video games, than you'll love this guy!" and what i got was something i couldn't understand at all, and while i guess that guy is a good caster, i can;'t really tell because i didn't understand anything. if that's because i didn't watch something the guy didn't tell me to watch, then doesn't that make my point rather than his?
i'm just saying that if someone who has never even heard of e-sports clicked on this thread and clicked on that video, they would instantly be like: "wtf is this? what the heck is going on?" which was the exact opposite of his point and the point of him putting the video up. people get excited about sports because they have a connection, not because some caster who has a connection is getting excited. sure, an animated caster can't hurt, but it can only help so much. the OP is way overestimating the value of an animated caster.
edit: this sounds too rough. a lot of different people really enjoy watching DOTA so it must be really exciting on a lot of different levels. im just trying to offer some counterpoints to some of the OPs points
let's examine this for a moment:
the op wants to prove(?) that DOTA is a better "non-gamer" spectator "sport", specifically because this Tobi guy. right? (if i'm wrong, OP, than i apologize)
he wanted to show me a video of this caster guy at his best. he linked me to a particular moment in the video, so i assumed that that particular moment would give a "non-gamer" (to which i qualify because i never played any MOBAs and i suck at RTS) an instant attraction to the DOTA feel and to this caster. i mean, the whole point of this thing was not: "if you watch a lot of DOTA then you'll love this guy!" it was literally "if you don't watch any DOTA or video games, than you'll love this guy!" and what i got was something i couldn't understand at all, and while i guess that guy is a good caster, i can;'t really tell because i didn't understand anything. if that's because i didn't watch something the guy didn't tell me to watch, then doesn't that make my point rather than his?
i'm just saying that if someone who has never even heard of e-sports clicked on this thread and clicked on that video, they would instantly be like: "wtf is this? what the heck is going on?" which was the exact opposite of his point and the point of him putting the video up. people get excited about sports because they have a connection, not because some caster who has a connection is getting excited. sure, an animated caster can't hurt, but it can only help so much. the OP is way overestimating the value of an animated caster.
edit: this sounds too rough. a lot of different people really enjoy watching DOTA so it must be really exciting on a lot of different levels. im just trying to offer some counterpoints to some of the OPs points
i think there are a few points you have misunderstood with my OP post:
1/I have never claim that DotA is more friendly to non-gamer than the rest.
2/ I have, however, claim that with good commentary, which is currently available in DotA2, viewers will have a chance to experience the passion/love of people in the scene therefore create more interest into DotA2 toward non-gamer audience compare to other games.
Viewer obviously are well informed that they are watching DreamHack, a video games competition so they have a sense that it is computer entertainments they are watching. However, without a basic knowledge about the games, their judgement will be purely based on the outlook and others reaction around them. What does this means? Well since most games right now just fulled with laser and explosion, there are not much extinction between them. There might be between game genres like FPS RTS but overall they are the same. However, spotted out the most is the professional sport commentary that we are currently having in DotA2. Prove me wrong but screaming do gain a lot of people attention to find out what are so exciting to others people.
