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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
These miracles have been done in Sweden. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
If you think these guys are legit, send them to Mr. Randi and he's got a cool $1,000,000 when they prove it to him. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
On April 26 2012 02:45 PanN wrote: Fuck faith healers aka "false hope givers". I lump them in the sort of insane group that support homeopathy, or other nonsense such as chakras. That is all. well this isnt setup like that. It's no big stage, and the guy isnt even praying or doing nothing, other guys are that are doing it for the first time and that does not even know him. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On April 26 2012 02:51 ThePhan2m wrote: well this isnt setup like that. It's no big stage, and the guy isnt even praying or doing nothing, other guys are that are doing it for the first time and that does not even know him. Yeah...... no. They are praying, don't say that i just watched it in a video, they may not do it all the time, but they do do it. Its 100% complete utter bullshit. These people are actually claiming they can heal others through words and a single touch, fucking disgusting behavior that should be punished honestly, this is nothing more than placebo nonsense. I guarantee the person that made this video is trying to profit somehow, guaranfuckinteeit. I did watch the videos, I even took the time to watch the shorter ones (the exact same crap) on thelastreformation.com, I have been browsing their website this entire time. Good job banning someone from your blogs because they disagree with you though, thats surely how you learn. By the way, the videos that you're supporting, claim to have actually cured aspergers syndrome. They claim that prayer has cured aspergers syndrome. Yeah, 100% bullshit nonsense. By the way, to say "blah blah you've just made up your mind already, you didnt watch the videos!" (even though i did) without actually knowing what I already know about faith healers is really insulting. I've seen plenty, and yes. they're all the same. By the way, ask your self. Why is it that every single one of these healings are healing something that can NOT visibly be seen? It's always a pain in an area, but whats causing the pain is NEVER shown. Show me a video where a kid has his leg split open and this guy rushes over and magically heals him. Show me a video where a guy is missing hands then mysteriously gains them back through god! Show me a video of someone in treatment at a hospital for the flesh eating virus, then it disappears with the power of this faith healers prayer! Oh, those likely don't exist. Why Is god only able and willing to heal minor back pains yet can't let a paralyzed child walk again? He's surely not limited by power is he? Or is it all apart of his divine plan which includes only SOME people being healed, but not all? So many questions x.x To the people that are saying its fine because its a placebo, that is utter nonsense as well. For example, they lied to a boy and told him his collar bone was healed, and that he was able to lift it fine. He obviously struggled a bit lifting it above his shoulder (where it would hurt most, ive broken my collar bone) but he was able to rotate his shoulder fine, sort of expected.. They're directly telling him to do something that could further damage his injury because they actually believe he is healed. You don't find anything wrong with that? These people aren't doctors. They shouldn't tell a boy, a damn child, what to do with his injury, they don't know anything. These really aren't miracles. They're just taking advantage of peoples gullibility and saying they're healed because of jesus christ and alleviating minor pain. A miracle is definitely not a word I would ever use for this. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
It is non profit only to see people get healed and get to know Jesus. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
Until some dumbass tries to skip chemo or something and replace it with 5 days of prayer and fasting. Then I get pissed. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
this is nothing more than placebo nonsense. Actually placebo is one of the strongest "medicines" in the world, and actually is effective for treatment. So regardless of what it is, if it helps people I don't see a problem with it even if it's placebo. I view faith healing as a positive experience, as people actually think it works and that makes them happy. Until some dumbass tries to skip chemo or something and replace it with 5 days of prayer and fasting. Then I get pissed. Agreed. Though fasting and intermittent fasting are legit and shows vastly improved blood markers, especially for those with diabetes, heart disease, etc. So that has medical backing. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2751 Posts
placebo or not. What if it happened to you for that sports injury you have been carrying around for years or that pain in your back that gives you trouble day after day, and then it just dissapears by a prayer? I doubt people who experience first conclusion would be a placebo. If placebo was that scientificly strong, we would have pills that did nothing and healed all kinds of pain permanently, and there would be fake centers where you could go get treated and fake healed by something similar, but there are not. I think placebo is to easy an answer for everything that cannot be explained. Though I do not deny placebo effects, though I dont believe its instant effects like in situations like this. There are countless examples, testemonies, books of these things within christian circles of more supernatural healings where direct changes to the body has occured as well. Even people that have been awakened after death, even days after when their bodies have begun to degenerate. (examples. people like Smith Wigglesworth, famous early 20th century preacher experienced this many times) just like Jesus did in the New Testament. On April 26 2012 03:38 Saechiis wrote: So what's the idea behind posting it on TL? Point is to broaden peoples views and reduce missconceptions. Many do not have any idea that there is possibilities like these, that Christians believe that can work as if you like to call it "placebo healing", fine, but it helps some, though not all. Still worth a try! | ||
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