Also, ok you guys know krillin from DBZ right? (also from dragon ball) well I got a question for you
Why isn't krillin killing everything?[spoiler] we know for sure that his destructo-disk can cut ANYTHING. It can't be blocked. you see it cut through mountains, planets, etc. Now, it isn't the fastest attack-- in fact it uses most of his energy and is fairly slow. Typically what happens is Krillin is getting his ass kicked by some bad guy then he's like "ok i'm using destructo disk" and the bad guy is generall some Muscle (not the head honcho) and is like "pshaw I can c atch whatever you throw" and krillin is like "ok catch this" and then the bad guy is getting all ready to BLOCK the unblockable attack-- cause it's a secret attack and he doesn't know it'll kill him. But then the boss is like "NO DONT BLOCK IT, DODGE IT!" and then he dodges it and it cuts through a mountain behind him or something and they're like "oh shot Krillin isn't useless" except he IS because he just used his one attack, and he's out of energy and it wouldn't work a second time anyways.
Now, this all seems pretty reasonable but there are a few problems that immediately become apparent with even the slightest application of critical thought.
ONE: how is Krillin the only guy who ever uses this ability? it's not like it's something only he should be capable of doing right? Like he's just a regular human. Goku should learn it or something. Or maybe it's something secret or only unique to Krillin right? But this segways into TWO: Seriously, how is Krillin the only guy who uses destructodisks? Clearly bad guys are like "oh we shoudl dodge this instead of blocking it" so they've SEEN it before. It's the only attack that CANT be blocked. Even Goku's episodes-long-charging spirit bomb can be blocked, but NOT THE DESTRUCTODISK. Like, how can you recognize this attack if you haven't seen it before? "Oh but Blazinghandl clearly it moves too slow, they just dodge it, etc" NO YOU'RE SO WRONG look ok so Krillin's other thing he does a lot is "Solar Flare" right? Basically when shit goes bad (As it always does for Krillin cause he's a weakling) he uses this Solar Flare, and it briefly stuns his opponent (for like 20ish seconds) and Krillin uses this opportunity to escape. He teaches it to his bros Goku and Gohan (who apparently can learn this even though they can't learn destructodisk). bUT THE MAIN POINT is that he has this ability. But, if you think about it, an ability that uses no spirit energy stuns your opponent for a moderate amoutn of time is the most advantageous technique you could possibly know if you use Destructodisk. Whenever Krillin stuns the main victim to get away, he should just fucking cut the guy in half with a destructodisk while the guy spends like 30 seconds clutching his eyeballs. Literally every person in DBZ except Piccolo (and Cell who has Piccolo's regenerative ability) could be defeated in like 10 seconds by Krillin in this fashion. In fact, almost every person in DBZ gets solar-flared by him (or hell, a friend of his when he's nearby) at some point! Krillin could be the strongest guy! But no, NO that would make WAY TOO MUCH SENSE ;_;
"oh blazinghand how is this fitting into your plan to get mad babes"
look dude this is serious buesinses you can't always be chassing tail
HE HAS NO NOSE. did you notice that all the main heros had HUGE POINTY NOSES?!? Android 16 HAD A HUGE NOSE and as a result of that he could shoot his hands and then go PEW PEW.
And you know, NO NOSE GOES to the kitty table. Chaiotzu had no nose and guess what. HE DIES 2 TIMES!
And anways gohan vs cell, gohan just blocks a destrodisk with his massive power.
Krillin is always trying to get android 17(or 18?) in bed so he is too preoccupied to fight/help in anyway.
Why do people expect mainstream shounen to make sense
It's like "I hope Gucci releases a purse that's actually useful next time" and then being pissed off as an even shittier purse comes out of the factory because the dumb masses of bitches enjoy seeing gold upon gold upon gold...
Krillin was pretty much the ultimate punching bag. I think the only thing he was actually useful for was to die to make Goku go super saiyan, and to prove that that scientist that built the androids was sick enough to allow reproduction from human-robot intercourse.
Then again, we are talking about a series where people get all the energies of the freaking universe beamed towards them and miss the damn moon-sized throw, which doesnt even blow up the planet. Meanwhile Freeza sends a tennisball sized sphere of energy into a planet and destablizes it in hours.
Gohan SSJ2 was able to catch the destructo disks from Perfect Cell and send them back at him, so I guess that after a certain power level, they become useless.
Um, the bad guys DO know how to use destructo disk. Frieza uses TWO of them vs Goku, and Vegeta even uses one to cut off Gohan's tail when he becomes Ozaru.
Also the only situation I can think of where you had that example of the muscly guy being told to dodge is with Nappa and Vegeta...in any other case the boss wasn't there (Ginyu Force) or there was only one guy lawl (like Frieza or Cell)
Haha in DBGT I think freeza or cell uses destructo disk. But for the sake of television, we can't have something that someone can do that just wins. It's less dramatic if a new enemy comes along and you already have the power to defeat him.
Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
Oh Krillin. Back in the original Dragonball days when he could go toe to toe with Goku, Master Rochi kicked ass, and finding the dragonballs was an adventure in itself.
Things started to go downhill once that fucking scouter was introduced. Then everything turned into a powerlevel and all the old dragonball characters except for Goku became obsolete. Why?!?!?!?!?
On April 22 2012 04:13 Resisty wrote: Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
I don't want to get into this debate (it's a long one...) but Tien was more powerful than Krillin by the end of the series. To keep it short, Tien kept training, Krillin didn't.
On April 22 2012 04:13 Resisty wrote: Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
I don't want to get into this debate (it's a long one...) but Tien was more powerful than Krillin by the end of the series. To keep it short, Tien kept training, Krillin didn't.
Hmm I've never seen the series to the end D: so I guess you're probably right. Either way, Yamcha is the most useless fighter imo and it's a constant running joke among some areas.
On April 22 2012 04:13 Resisty wrote: Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
I don't want to get into this debate (it's a long one...) but Tien was more powerful than Krillin by the end of the series. To keep it short, Tien kept training, Krillin didn't.
Hmm I've never seen the series to the end D: so I guess you're probably right. Either way, Yamcha is the most useless fighter imo and it's a constant running joke among some areas.
yamcha actually provided some assistance vs buu iirc lol
though he got owned shortly after
but strongest human is definitely chi chi, she made goku her little bitch lol
On April 22 2012 04:13 Resisty wrote: Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
I don't want to get into this debate (it's a long one...) but Tien was more powerful than Krillin by the end of the series. To keep it short, Tien kept training, Krillin didn't.
Tien was always the most poweful yo.
Tri-Beam Cannon or whatever? that shit was fucking bomb when I was like eight, and he did that shit to cell and whooped his ass. i think he did it to Bu too because he's a fucking baller.
On April 21 2012 21:08 utelektr wrote: Goku can, in fact, use destructo disk. Dunno why he never does.
WAIT WAIT WAIT
So shit just got 90x more real. So, ok maybe MAYBE I can wrap my head around Krillin somehow not realizing he could combine Solar Flare and Destructo Disk to kill everyone... I mean, he's not a Saiyan so maybe he isn't that skilled.
But I'm like SUPER sure Goku knows Solar Flare. And Goku is a super skilled fighter right? How does HE not realize he can just defeat every opponent with Solar Flare -> Destructo Disk? ????? YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE'S DIED OR ALMOST DIED???
On April 22 2012 04:13 Resisty wrote: Have you ever seen Dragon Ball Z: The Abridged Series? There's a running counter for every time Krillin gets owned or is completely useless and he's always being picked on for being useless.
Frankly, out of the pure humans, Krillin, Yamcha, and Tien, Krillin is the most powerful. After the World Tournament in Dragon Ball, Yamcha became completely useless. He actually died to a Saibaman, a creature with a power level of one Raditz ._.
Krillin was actually moderately relevant like when he was on Namek.
I don't want to get into this debate (it's a long one...) but Tien was more powerful than Krillin by the end of the series. To keep it short, Tien kept training, Krillin didn't.
Tien was always the most poweful yo.
Tri-Beam Cannon or whatever? that shit was fucking bomb when I was like eight, and he did that shit to cell and whooped his ass. i think he did it to Bu too because he's a fucking baller.
On April 21 2012 21:08 utelektr wrote: Goku can, in fact, use destructo disk. Dunno why he never does.
WAIT WAIT WAIT
So shit just got 90x more real. So, ok maybe MAYBE I can wrap my head around Krillin somehow not realizing he could combine Solar Flare and Destructo Disk to kill everyone... I mean, he's not a Saiyan so maybe he isn't that skilled.
But I'm like SUPER sure Goku knows Solar Flare. And Goku is a super skilled fighter right? How does HE not realize he can just defeat every opponent with Solar Flare -> Destructo Disk? ????? YOU KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE'S DIED OR ALMOST DIED???
;_;
yep goku knows solar flare lol, i think he used it vs freiza iirc? and i think one time later into the series as well...
maybe the power of destructo disk depends on the user's power level? like for krillin, maybe someone with 4000 power level can stop it but if SSJ4 gogeta used it, not even evil shenron can? :oo
EPT
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