Ever had a hobby that you enjoyed doing everyday and everyone knew that you were really good at it, or above average at it?
Let's say you practiced piano or guitar a lot everyday and there was this one song that you just could never play. And finally one day you mastered it and was so proud. After you showed it to other people and other people didn't think it's that big of a deal because they thought you were already capable of playing such a hard piece of music, and thought you didn't even exert that much effort practicing for it?
Or another more understandable hobby, you're really good at starcraft and everyone knew about it, and after winning your first legit tournament all your non-starcraft players didn't think it was such a big deal cuz they thought you were already good and didn't have to practice much for it at all?
Well similar situation is happening with me and running. I'm not very fast, but i'm consistent. I go running everyday religiously. Next week April 15th im running the Go St. Louis marathon and I'm SO excited for it. I feel like if i could complete that without walking i'll be setting a HUGE milestone for myself.
sometimes during training runs, i'd picture myself crossing the finishing line after 26.2 grueling miles, and almost had watery eyes.... don't judge k :p
So earlier tonight, i called my parents, and they were going to come watch next sunday. We were discussing the times and how we were gonna meet up at the event. The race starts at 7am, and I told them i was going to wake up at 5am because i'll be restless anyways. And they they responded with "why so early? what's the big deal you're just running a marathon." Immediately afterwards, i felt slightly dissappointed by their opinions and a bit hot headed due to their lack of understanding.
I guess it's partially my fault for not putting enough emphasis on it, even though i felt like i did by telling them i've been doing 17miler training runs, and then hurting my achilles afterwards and had to cut my training short....
I almost wanted to say if it's too much of an hassle or if it's too early for you, you dont have to come. But i refrained myself from it....
Moral of story: I guess in the long run/big picture, no one really cares for your accomplishments except for yourself.
At least your parents know what you are doing...My parents could care less. But anyways, accomplishments are definitely for you and you should be proud of everything you've done that wasn't dumb
On April 09 2012 13:24 deathly rat wrote: Yo your parents were coming to see you run and support you. I feel like you are being a bit over sensitive on this one.
I think I understand you. I've been above average in a certain sport being first singles in my HS team. A lot of times people compliment me but there were times where I felt like you.
I wouldn't say nobody cares except for yourself, just nobody really understands how much the accomplishment means to you I think.
Anyway, good luck on the marathon, I hope all your hard work pays off!
On April 09 2012 13:32 dAPhREAk wrote: how old are you?
this is not important, plus i doubt you really care anyways, you have made 435 posts in the last week.
woh, how can you tell how many posts i've made?
age matters in that if you are younger and still live at home, your parents should be more supportive of hobbies. however, once you get older and move out (which is what it sounds like you did), its not as important for parents to support every single one of your hobbies. you are an adult.
nevertheless, what does it matter if they are there at the beginning of the marathon? its not like they are running with you, or that they can watch you run the whole thing. its more important that they be there at the end of the marathon, which is probably much later in the morning.
edit: nm. i just found it in my profile. its been a boring week. =(
wtf? A marathon is a huge deal; I don't understand how they can be so "whatever" about it! I'd like to personally wish you luck in your marathon!
edit: I've learned to stop caring about what my family thinks of me though. I used to "disappoint" them by being "an inside kid" while my brother was always outside doing stuff that they felt was more productive than video games. So whenever they'd praise my brother and not give two shits about me, I just focused on satisfying myself. Nowadays, my brother dropped out of college (although he has a great job...but my dad still thinks he is a failure for it...wtf), and I recently made a 31 on the ACT. Of course, now they're paying attention to me, but I have a hard time accepting their praise now.
On April 09 2012 13:32 dAPhREAk wrote: how old are you?
this is not important, plus i doubt you really care anyways, you have made 435 posts in the last week.
woh, how can you tell how many posts i've made?
age matters in that if you are younger and still live at home, your parents should be more supportive of hobbies. however, once you get older and move out (which is what it sounds like you did), its not as important for parents to support every single one of your hobbies. you are an adult.
nevertheless, what does it matter if they are there at the beginning of the marathon? its not like they are running with you, or that they can watch you run the whole thing. its more important that they be there at the end of the marathon, which is probably much later in the morning.
edit: nm. i just found it in my profile. its been a boring week. =(
When my brother ran the NYC marathon, he said seeing us cheer him on throughout the race helped him refocus and keep going. We moved our spot and couple times so we could scream at him as he passed by every 7 or so miles. He spent a year training for it, and was very appreciative of the support we (family) and his friends gave him during the race. I think it's understandable the OP would like some support from his/her family, because running a marathon is pretty big thing, it takes a lot of training and dedication.
On April 09 2012 13:32 dAPhREAk wrote: how old are you?
this is not important, plus i doubt you really care anyways, you have made 435 posts in the last week.
woh, how can you tell how many posts i've made?
age matters in that if you are younger and still live at home, your parents should be more supportive of hobbies. however, once you get older and move out (which is what it sounds like you did), its not as important for parents to support every single one of your hobbies. you are an adult.
nevertheless, what does it matter if they are there at the beginning of the marathon? its not like they are running with you, or that they can watch you run the whole thing. its more important that they be there at the end of the marathon, which is probably much later in the morning.
edit: nm. i just found it in my profile. its been a boring week. =(
When my brother ran the NYC marathon, he said seeing us cheer him on throughout the race helped him refocus and keep going. We moved our spot and couple times so we could scream at him as he passed by every 7 or so miles. He spent a year training for it, and was very appreciative of the support we (family) and his friends gave him during the race. I think it's understandable the OP would like some support from his/her family, because running a marathon is pretty big thing, it takes a lot of training and dedication.
indeed, having support is nice, but i dont think its something to get pissy about if you are an adult and your parents say they dont want to go at 7 am.
On April 09 2012 13:32 dAPhREAk wrote: how old are you?
this is not important, plus i doubt you really care anyways, you have made 435 posts in the last week.
woh, how can you tell how many posts i've made?
age matters in that if you are younger and still live at home, your parents should be more supportive of hobbies. however, once you get older and move out (which is what it sounds like you did), its not as important for parents to support every single one of your hobbies. you are an adult.
nevertheless, what does it matter if they are there at the beginning of the marathon? its not like they are running with you, or that they can watch you run the whole thing. its more important that they be there at the end of the marathon, which is probably much later in the morning.
edit: nm. i just found it in my profile. its been a boring week. =(
When my brother ran the NYC marathon, he said seeing us cheer him on throughout the race helped him refocus and keep going. We moved our spot and couple times so we could scream at him as he passed by every 7 or so miles. He spent a year training for it, and was very appreciative of the support we (family) and his friends gave him during the race. I think it's understandable the OP would like some support from his/her family, because running a marathon is pretty big thing, it takes a lot of training and dedication.
I think this goes for pretty much everything else
@OP At least your parents didn't say they weren't coming. Like you said I also think you just didn't emphasized how important this means to you. Obviously your parents needs some more convincing to see how much it means (it could be a one time thing for them). I'd suggest to keep on doing what you like by runing more marathons. They'll come to understand it better in time
"What's the big deal you're just running a marathon?"
I laugh because your parents have obviously never run a marathon. Pheidippides, the greek messenger who fought in the Battle Of Marathon, DIED after he finished running and told Athens they were safe. It is a huge strain on your body.
Get over it. Assuming you have already moved out of your parents, you should be more then happy that they are even coming. Between how much I work and how much my family works, we barely have time for a dinner here and there. I would never expect them to be so concerned with my own hobbies. While you believe they should empathize with you running they marathon, you have to understand they do not run and don't understand how hard it truly is. The same way you can tell them you finally got promoted to masters, they just ignorant of how hard the accomplishment is.
Ok so it looks like its a bit of both here, slightly oversensitive by you and possibly a slight lack of appreciation by your folks simple way to fix is to explain to them how much you are looking forward to this and how hard you've been training to complete this - and you will be so happy when it pays off.
Gladstone I totally understand you but I think if you just let it show then your parents will understand how big of an idea it is Good luck and do great, don't break a leg though!
If the quote from your parents is an exact quote, there might be a chance that they meant it differently than you interpreted it. Since you said the race starts at 7, waking up at 5 gives you 2 full hours of preparation. If they aren't very familiar with serious running, they may not see how you could spend 2 hours preparing for the race, leading them to say what they did.
This is just my speculation, considering there isn't much other context, but I think it may be a possibility.
I think what I hate more is when I've accomplished something, and somebody tells me I'm doing it wrong.
I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade.
So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O
Maybe they're just trying to not make you nervous before the big event. Or maybe they're misinformed, I would definitely be surprised if someone should have to wake up 5am(I wake up 7am).
On April 09 2012 23:40 Nokarot wrote: I think what I hate more is when I've accomplished something, and somebody tells me I'm doing it wrong.
I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade.
So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O
Well that's pretty much the truth... If you're overweight, the best time to start strength training is immediately, not when you lose -20lb or not when you're down to a certain bf %. I'm not trying to belittle your results but saying that you should definitely incorporate strength training with weight loss to prevent rapid loss of muscle mass.
Yang: I'm in a similar situation as you. My parents don't have any knowledge about proper strength training and nutrition (and makes no attempt to listen when I tell them) and refuse to adjust their lifestyle to accommodate me. Stuff like eating meat every day, not eating rice, building a home gym, etc. are some things that they've flat-out refused to do. Imo, the only solution is to tell the people who give a shit and not those who don't.
On April 09 2012 23:40 Nokarot wrote: I think what I hate more is when I've accomplished something, and somebody tells me I'm doing it wrong.
I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade.
So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O
Well that's pretty much the truth... If you're overweight, the best time to start strength training is immediately, not when you lose -20lb or not when you're down to a certain bf %. I'm not trying to belittle your results but saying that you should definitely incorporate strength training with weight loss to prevent rapid loss of muscle mass..
You seem to think I really care about all that, that's the problem, and why it's demotivating. I'm not trying to lose weight so I can can go around in a 6 pack, I just want to fit in to better clothes and look better. I don't care if I'm skinny and flabby, it's still better than fat and flabby. That's my ultimate goal, and you're kinda dumb/silly if you think I'm failing at that goal.
No, I'm not saying that I'm doing what is absolutely best for me, but what is stupid is when somebody is making clear progress on their goals and the only thing somebody has to say is "you're doing it wrong." The least you could do is say "I'd do it differently, but good job nonetheless."
This is besides the fact that there's 20 different studies that say 20 different things. Not everyone agrees that weight training is the be-all-end-all answer. Most agree that "doing what you're comfortable with and are able to make a habit out of" is the best option when your one and only goal is "progress," no matter how small it may be.
Sorry to hijack this thread, this shit just makes me angry. I'm tired of fit buffs alienating me with their idea of perfection. Non-perfection is better than where I'm at now and it's something I'm comfortable with.
On April 09 2012 23:40 Nokarot wrote: I think what I hate more is when I've accomplished something, and somebody tells me I'm doing it wrong.
I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade.
So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O
Well that's pretty much the truth... If you're overweight, the best time to start strength training is immediately, not when you lose -20lb or not when you're down to a certain bf %. I'm not trying to belittle your results but saying that you should definitely incorporate strength training with weight loss to prevent rapid loss of muscle mass..
You seem to think I really care about all that, that's the problem, and why it's demotivating. I'm not trying to lose weight so I can can go around in a 6 pack, I just want to fit in to better clothes and look better. I don't care if I'm skinny and flabby, it's still better than fat and flabby. That's my ultimate goal, and you're kinda dumb/silly if you think I'm failing at that goal.
No, I'm not saying that I'm doing what is absolutely best for me, but what is stupid is when somebody is making clear progress on their goals and the only thing somebody has to say is "you're doing it wrong." The least you could do is say "I'd do it differently, but good job nonetheless."
This is besides the fact that there's 20 different studies that say 20 different things. Not everyone agrees that weight training is the be-all-end-all answer. Most agree that "doing what you're comfortable with and are able to make a habit out of" is the best option when your one and only goal is "progress," no matter how small it may be.
Sorry to hijack this thread, this shit just makes me angry. I'm tired of fit buffs alienating me with their idea of perfection. Non-perfection is better than where I'm at now and it's something I'm comfortable with.
Do you actually want to lose muscle mass? If you're happy with losing muscle and becoming skinnyfat, then keep doing what you're doing. If you want to commit 3 hours a week to maintain what you have, then you can do that.
You make it sound like "osing muscle mass" is a terrible thing when you're completely sedentary already. I'll lose muscle mass proportional to the fat I lose and be just as out of shape fitness-wise as I am now. I'll feel the same, and I feel pretty good right now physically.
And when I decide I want to get fit, which I will eventually, i'll be at a stage where my mind and body can support it. Maybe it takes less time to go from fat>fit than fat>skinny>fit, but when you're too big to ride a bike or run without crushing your lungs under all the chest bouncing, I personally can't handle it. I don't have the willpower, let alone motivation, to endure that kind of torture, even if "it gets easier." I'd rather take the longer, less physically torturous route. It's not something you could really understand unless you've been 300 lbs before (not sure if you have.) Some people can put up with it because they have hella motivation. Me, I barely have the motivation to get out of bed in the morning, let alone endure that kind of stuff, so I stick to what I can do until I'm better prepared for the rest.
If you feel like that's the route you want to take, then go for it. But know that you don't need to do specific exercises like running. You do what you can given your limitations. If you can't do high-impact exercises, go for a short walk every day. Do exercises like squats, deadlifts, bench press, and assisted pull-ups that will work your entire body but won't stress your joints.
This guy has gone from 500+lbs to 285 while doing a mix of strength exercises and cardio. From our forums Malinor has done amazingly well and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
I realize this has gone pretty off topic but feel free to drop by the health & fitness forum if you have any questions whenever you're ready.
I plan on doing more when I can, but as I said, when I don't even have the motivation to get out of bed half the time, motivating myself to go out for a walk is a rare occasion (though I do it sometimes.) That, and if I want to maintain my -2 lbs per week thing, I'll have to supplement this dieting with exercise regardless, once my BMR is low enough.
Anyway, thanks for the advice, but I just get ultra defensive because it feels super alienating for fitness dudes to tell me what I'm doing is outright wrong, when it's simply a different, more comfortable path for me. I know that's not your intent, but when I'm already unmotivated half the time, hearing "you're doing it wrong" only serves to demotivate people further. I might suggest starting off with something like "good job, but have you tried X" instead.
On April 10 2012 13:02 Nokarot wrote: I plan on doing more when I can, but as I said, when I don't even have the motivation to get out of bed half the time, motivating myself to go out for a walk is a rare occasion (though I do it sometimes.) That, and if I want to maintain my -2 lbs per week thing, I'll have to supplement this dieting with exercise regardless, once my BMR is low enough.
Anyway, thanks for the advice, but I just get ultra defensive because it feels super alienating for fitness dudes to tell me what I'm doing is outright wrong, when it's simply a different, more comfortable path for me. I know that's not your intent, but when I'm already unmotivated half the time, hearing "you're doing it wrong" only serves to demotivate people further. I might suggest starting off with something like "good job, but have you tried X" instead.
I'm not just saying this because of the above conversation but good for you. At least you're doing something. I've been trying to motivate myself to eat better and exercise for the past year and a half and got nowhere. Still eating fastfood for like half my meals -.-;;
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