EPTGladstone I totally understand you but I think if you just let it show then your parents will understand how big of an idea it is
Good luck and do great, don't break a leg though! 
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Gladstone I totally understand you but I think if you just let it show then your parents will understand how big of an idea it is Good luck and do great, don't break a leg though! | ||
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Dirkzor
Denmark1944 Posts
This made me think of this vidoe... enjoy =) Gl with the marathon! | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On April 09 2012 18:11 Dirkzor wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-iGZPtWXzE This made me think of this vidoe... enjoy =) Gl with the marathon! wow that was a very interesting video | ||
l10f
United States3241 Posts
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We Are Dormin
25 Posts
This is just my speculation, considering there isn't much other context, but I think it may be a possibility. Good luck in your race! :D | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade. So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O | ||
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Bunn
Estonia934 Posts
Good luck! | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On April 09 2012 23:40 Nokarot wrote: I think what I hate more is when I've accomplished something, and somebody tells me I'm doing it wrong. I've recently been dieting and was hella happy to have hit a -20 lb milestone. I told some dude and he basically exploded saying "why aren't you doing both diet and exercise, you're not accomplishing anything, you're wasting your time" etc etc. That shit is super demoralizing. All I want to do is lose some weight, I'm not trying to become a professional bodybuilder and stand on a fitness pedestal. I don't care that I'm not doing the optimal scientifically proven weight loss program, I just want to sit here and be happy that I've lost 20 pounds without someone raining on my parade. So anyway, I feel your pain kinda. Good luck at the marathon though :O Well that's pretty much the truth... If you're overweight, the best time to start strength training is immediately, not when you lose -20lb or not when you're down to a certain bf %. I'm not trying to belittle your results but saying that you should definitely incorporate strength training with weight loss to prevent rapid loss of muscle mass. Yang: I'm in a similar situation as you. My parents don't have any knowledge about proper strength training and nutrition (and makes no attempt to listen when I tell them) and refuse to adjust their lifestyle to accommodate me. Stuff like eating meat every day, not eating rice, building a home gym, etc. are some things that they've flat-out refused to do. Imo, the only solution is to tell the people who give a shit and not those who don't. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
On April 10 2012 03:18 infinity21 wrote: Well that's pretty much the truth... If you're overweight, the best time to start strength training is immediately, not when you lose -20lb or not when you're down to a certain bf %. I'm not trying to belittle your results but saying that you should definitely incorporate strength training with weight loss to prevent rapid loss of muscle mass.. You seem to think I really care about all that, that's the problem, and why it's demotivating. I'm not trying to lose weight so I can can go around in a 6 pack, I just want to fit in to better clothes and look better. I don't care if I'm skinny and flabby, it's still better than fat and flabby. That's my ultimate goal, and you're kinda dumb/silly if you think I'm failing at that goal. No, I'm not saying that I'm doing what is absolutely best for me, but what is stupid is when somebody is making clear progress on their goals and the only thing somebody has to say is "you're doing it wrong." The least you could do is say "I'd do it differently, but good job nonetheless." This is besides the fact that there's 20 different studies that say 20 different things. Not everyone agrees that weight training is the be-all-end-all answer. Most agree that "doing what you're comfortable with and are able to make a habit out of" is the best option when your one and only goal is "progress," no matter how small it may be. Sorry to hijack this thread, this shit just makes me angry. I'm tired of fit buffs alienating me with their idea of perfection. Non-perfection is better than where I'm at now and it's something I'm comfortable with. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
On April 10 2012 08:13 Nokarot wrote: You seem to think I really care about all that, that's the problem, and why it's demotivating. I'm not trying to lose weight so I can can go around in a 6 pack, I just want to fit in to better clothes and look better. I don't care if I'm skinny and flabby, it's still better than fat and flabby. That's my ultimate goal, and you're kinda dumb/silly if you think I'm failing at that goal. No, I'm not saying that I'm doing what is absolutely best for me, but what is stupid is when somebody is making clear progress on their goals and the only thing somebody has to say is "you're doing it wrong." The least you could do is say "I'd do it differently, but good job nonetheless." This is besides the fact that there's 20 different studies that say 20 different things. Not everyone agrees that weight training is the be-all-end-all answer. Most agree that "doing what you're comfortable with and are able to make a habit out of" is the best option when your one and only goal is "progress," no matter how small it may be. Sorry to hijack this thread, this shit just makes me angry. I'm tired of fit buffs alienating me with their idea of perfection. Non-perfection is better than where I'm at now and it's something I'm comfortable with. Do you actually want to lose muscle mass? If you're happy with losing muscle and becoming skinnyfat, then keep doing what you're doing. If you want to commit 3 hours a week to maintain what you have, then you can do that. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
And when I decide I want to get fit, which I will eventually, i'll be at a stage where my mind and body can support it. Maybe it takes less time to go from fat>fit than fat>skinny>fit, but when you're too big to ride a bike or run without crushing your lungs under all the chest bouncing, I personally can't handle it. I don't have the willpower, let alone motivation, to endure that kind of torture, even if "it gets easier." I'd rather take the longer, less physically torturous route. It's not something you could really understand unless you've been 300 lbs before (not sure if you have.) Some people can put up with it because they have hella motivation. Me, I barely have the motivation to get out of bed in the morning, let alone endure that kind of stuff, so I stick to what I can do until I'm better prepared for the rest. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
This guy has gone from 500+lbs to 285 while doing a mix of strength exercises and cardio. From our forums Malinor has done amazingly well and I'm sure he'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. I realize this has gone pretty off topic but feel free to drop by the health & fitness forum if you have any questions whenever you're ready. | ||
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Nokarot
United States1410 Posts
Anyway, thanks for the advice, but I just get ultra defensive because it feels super alienating for fitness dudes to tell me what I'm doing is outright wrong, when it's simply a different, more comfortable path for me. I know that's not your intent, but when I'm already unmotivated half the time, hearing "you're doing it wrong" only serves to demotivate people further. I might suggest starting off with something like "good job, but have you tried X" instead. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On April 10 2012 13:02 Nokarot wrote: I plan on doing more when I can, but as I said, when I don't even have the motivation to get out of bed half the time, motivating myself to go out for a walk is a rare occasion (though I do it sometimes.) That, and if I want to maintain my -2 lbs per week thing, I'll have to supplement this dieting with exercise regardless, once my BMR is low enough. Anyway, thanks for the advice, but I just get ultra defensive because it feels super alienating for fitness dudes to tell me what I'm doing is outright wrong, when it's simply a different, more comfortable path for me. I know that's not your intent, but when I'm already unmotivated half the time, hearing "you're doing it wrong" only serves to demotivate people further. I might suggest starting off with something like "good job, but have you tried X" instead. I'm not just saying this because of the above conversation but good for you. At least you're doing something. I've been trying to motivate myself to eat better and exercise for the past year and a half and got nowhere. Still eating fastfood for like half my meals -.-;; | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9109 Posts
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