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[SC2] Massive MU win rate discrepancies - Page 2

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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 21 2012 13:54 GMT
#21
On March 21 2012 22:27 Complete wrote:
What program did you use to get these stats?

sc2gears!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124689
don't leave home without it!
get rich or die mining
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DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
March 21 2012 15:24 GMT
#22
On March 21 2012 22:38 quetzy wrote:
Heh, after a few seasons with Toss and then Zerg, I just switched to Terran this season (goal is to play random )

It's not a big game pool yet (~60-70 games), but the statistics so far are quite interesting:
TvP ~67%
TvZ ~50%
TvT ~15%

I would expect all three to be below 50% since I just switched race so my MMR is old and I should be losing, but it seems that the understanding of the other two races helps, while my TvT shows just how better the players I'm being matched with are.



IMO it just shows how specialist TvT is, it's so different to other match-ups, a little similar to high level ZvZ I guess in that respect (not in how it's played, but its uniqueness obviously). I have a friend who doesn't really play much these days, but he still has diamond level mechanics, and plays random. I'd say he's plat in most match ups, but his TvT is just insane, not through practice or a superb build order, just a really great understanding of what it takes to win those games
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
March 21 2012 16:13 GMT
#23
Sounds normal tbh.

I had a period where I went 66%~ in PvT/PvZ and barely 33% in PvP, I just didn't get the matchup at all. I've also had similar stats to yours, with painfully low PvT and higher PvP/PvZ. I guess it just comes down to which matchups you practice more and are more comfortable with, since they take different skillsets.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
March 21 2012 20:39 GMT
#24
how did you filter your winrate by matchup( i know in sc2gears, can't find it in there), can't figure out how to do that, once i get that i'll give you my results
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
March 21 2012 20:40 GMT
#25
On March 22 2012 05:39 Coramoor wrote:
how did you filter your winrate by matchup( i know in sc2gears, can't find it in there), can't figure out how to do that, once i get that i'll give you my results

pull up the multi replay analysis, double click your name and then there will be a bunch of tabs that all pertain to you, including matchups, maps etc.
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Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
March 21 2012 20:48 GMT
#26
well i was expecting something different but over my last 250 ladder games or so, probably the last 2.5 seasons i'm 53% pvz, 53% pvp and 62% pvt, although i expected the pvt to be higher, really simple matchup for me
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 21 2012 20:56 GMT
#27
On March 21 2012 22:54 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 22:27 Complete wrote:
What program did you use to get these stats?

sc2gears!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124689
don't leave home without it!


And don't forget to turn autosave on lol, was like the fuck just now cause it showed 18 games for me with 100% win lol.
smaug81243
Profile Joined October 2011
94 Posts
March 21 2012 22:42 GMT
#28
I decided to run see what my matchup win-rate has been for my past 38 games (includes a few customs but almost all are ladder games) and came out with:
TVP - 85% win-rate
TVT - 66% win-rate
TVZ - 43% win-rate

So, yea. Definitely a massive difference in win-rate percentages for myself.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 22 2012 00:50 GMT
#29
My PvZ lately is like 70%, PvP like 65%, and PvT is like 40% D:

I'm trying to figure this PvT thing out, but I've just always been bad at PvT.
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