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Gnizz
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Germany44 Posts
February 26 2012 05:16 GMT
#1
Alright, I've done it! My first games as a Random player!
I decided to announce the race I got to my enemy, for learning purposes. I'm not trying to trick my opponents by going random, but to challenge myself to learn all the races properly.

So, the first enemy I encountered was this:
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Yes, its the dreaded Screen, but I hit the button and got assigned...

a ZvZ on Cloud Kingdom! Going for my standard 15 Hatch/15 Pool I obviously ran into an Spinecrawler/Lingrush... well, I don't have to tell you how it went

My second game was a TvT on Korhal Compound. I tried the only opening I could think of, a cloaked Banshee opener into an expansion. Onfortunately my scout got denied, so I went in a bit blindly.
My banshee arrived just as Cloak finished, and I sniped a lot of SCVs. It seemed like he had just used his scan, maybe because my timing was a bit off and he didn't expect cloaked Banshee anymore. Anyways, I defended just fine against his Banshee and the following Marine attack, while killing 10-15 SCVs and denying his Expansion. Win!

I definitely felt a lot of bumps in my build as a Terran, especially in a matchup I didn't play from either side before.
So what is a good standard TvT opener? With an early-ish expansion in mind?(i like eco!)

I'm going to save all the Replays from now on, I think I really need to watch them.
Oh, and maybe I'll post some here.

Good night all


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Sc1pio
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States823 Posts
February 26 2012 06:51 GMT
#2
TvT build: http://blip.tv/day9tv/day-9-daily-394-p1-terran-week-thorzain-s-tvt-5862954

It's a 1 rax fe that's pretty strong.

Good luck playing random!
"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, in the expert's there are few. " -Shunro Suzuki | fortuna fortes adiuvat
Steelo_Rivers
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1968 Posts
February 26 2012 06:55 GMT
#3
1-1-1 Cloaked Banshee is basically the standard right now. I noticed recently though that no one knows how to respond to 15 cc without an all-in in diamond league which usually leads to the aggressor losing.


Whenever I pay random, I ALWAYS expo first.


REAL MEN 15 CC/HATCH/NEXUS FIRST.

(dumbasses double expo without any units and try to call it innovative when the bronze-plat league payer doesnt come at them with early aggression)
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 07:01:54
February 26 2012 07:00 GMT
#4
On February 26 2012 15:55 AeroEffect wrote:
1-1-1 Cloaked Banshee is basically the standard right now. I noticed recently though that no one knows how to respond to 15 cc without an all-in in diamond league which usually leads to the aggressor losing.


Whenever I pay random, I ALWAYS expo first.


REAL MEN 15 CC/HATCH/NEXUS FIRST.

(dumbasses double expo without any units and try to call it innovative when the bronze-plat league payer doesnt come at them with early aggression)

I recently started playing random on the SEA ladder, and I like to go for nice early expo's too. Most people expect random players to cheese all the time (I generally expect them to) so getting the quick expand is always great when they are preparing for a six pool or searching near their base for proxies.

My main problem is ZvZ, I don't quite know how to get the balance between aggression and drones, and when to tech up.
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FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
February 26 2012 08:36 GMT
#5
i like going for that standard 12 rax 13 gas into cutting off gas at 200 for 2 factories and getting a command center usually before 5 min, i have 2 raxes up before i start my 1st fact because of lingering money, but its a good a eco startup and its usually hard to pressure with a siege line early or air harass at all because of marine count. also i start siege and tanks up at like 8 min in, its a little late but if held correctly can become very powerful mid or late game, btw my fav tvt build ;P
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
Semtext
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany287 Posts
February 26 2012 11:05 GMT
#6
below diamond, i think it is safe to say that the fastest possible tank (11 gas, 13 rax, build factory as soon as 100 gas are mined and rax is ready) opener with two rax (no techlab, no upgrades) into a hard contain at 8 minutes is relatively strong. i have not lost a TvT with that build in season 6 in my gold league (out of 9 TvTs). of course you have to scout/scan for for cloaked banshee and react with engineering bay and turrets accordingly, but after that its a walk in the park, if you push put at ~8 minutes with 3 tanks and 14something marines.
http://de.twitch.tv/semtext | FBH, Socke, WhiteRa, GoOdy, TLO
SpeCtor
Profile Joined August 2010
233 Posts
February 26 2012 11:24 GMT
#7
I loved playing random in my First 30 games of S6 however the amount of BM i recieved cos "you need a pick a race faggot" and that every Zerg game i played, I would be all ined. And every Protoss game I would be all ined and every Terran games...Well you can guess what happens.Even after a match I got BM. So I changed back to Terran/Protoss instead.
justalex
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
February 26 2012 15:21 GMT
#8
I don't have the balls to expo first unless I roll Zerg for a 15 hatch. About 3 out of every 4 people I play cheese.
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