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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 03:55:45
February 17 2012 16:29 GMT
#1

Yesterday I wrote a blog talking about the merits and advantages of forming productive habits. In particular, I'm currently trying to make it a habit to wake up at 7am to write a blog before going to work.

The idea is that just like I brush my teeth before I go to sleep each night, I will wake up and write a blog before I go to work each day[1]. Just like clockwork.

I was successful on day 1 (yesterday), but later in the day I wondered, "In forming habits, could it be just as important not to do the activities at other times in the day?"

At around 10pm last night, I had an urge to write a blog. But I thought twice, and decided to defer the task until this morning. I thought that writing a blog at that time could be detrimental to my overall effort in habit formation.

There are two reasons why I think that performing the task outside of the defined timeframe or locational setting for the habit could be detrimental.

The first reason is burnout. Most of the activities and tasks that we're going to try to make a habit are difficult or unattractive things. If given a choice, we'd rather not do these things (at least at the earlier stages of habit formation). If the tasks were easy and nice and friendly, why would we be trying to form a habit in order to increase productivity in that area in the first place?

Let's say that my goal is to form a habit to go to the gym three times a week. If I decide to go to the gym on a whim on a fourth day, then I will surely be more physically tired on my next regularly scheduled workout. Even if I do manage to go, I will have surely beat the odds to make it happen. The task would have become more difficult because of my ad-hoc action to go work out on a fourth day.

Similarly, if my goal is to write a blog once a day in the morning, then writing another blog in the afternoon is likely to leave me more weary of the act come next morning. Whereas the extra gym session will have caused physical fatigue, the blog writing will have caused mental fatigue. This reasoning seems reasonable to me, at least at the moment.

The second reason is routine replacement and the subsequent excuses. Take the gym example, where I am scheduled to go to the gym on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Let's say I go to the gym on Thursday; it's very possible that come Friday I will say, "Hey, I went to the gym three times already this week. I'm not going to go today". For the blog example, I may wake up the next day and say, "Look I've already written an extra blog. It's okay if I don't write one this morning."

In the short term, we got the same productivity out of doing the task outside of the defined time for the habit. The problem is that when we skip the task on the regularly scheduled time, it makes it that much harder to make it routine. It makes it that much harder to have the action be a natural, low friction habit for us. When we make an excuse not to do the tough act once (for the legitimate reason of having already done the act earlier), then we set ourselves up in the future to make an illigitimate excuse. We'll be more likely to say "I just don't feel like it today. I'm going to let it slide."

Breaking the pattern seems like a slippery slope to me. I've broken patterns in the past before, and I'm hoping to avoid it this time, particularly for the blogging effort.

We'll see where it takes me. So far, so good.


[1] Maybe this means that I will only write on the weekdays. Maybe weekends will be days when I write in Japanese. Time will tell.




Crossposted from my main blog

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Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
February 17 2012 16:42 GMT
#2
Good points, im in a similar situation and never thought about it this way
The artist formerly known as Starparty
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 19:14:14
February 17 2012 19:12 GMT
#3
What you're saying is the equivalent of some basic strategies against having problems with your sleep schedule. (Only use the bed to sleep, nothing else or you'll be reminded of other tasks while trying to sleep.)

It pretty much goes back to anchoring a certain task (or rather a certain emotion) to a certain sensual experience.


There is, from a psychological point of view, no big difference between:
-Smelling a certain cookie and being reminded of your childhood.
-Going to bed and falling asleep quickly because there is nothing else you do there.


If you'd like to form a habit from scratch however, your current approach is not optimal.

"In particular, I'm currently trying to make it a habit to wake up at 7am to write a blog before going to work."

If you would say "I'm currently trying to make it a habit to wake up at 7am, brush my teeth while I set up water for my favorite tea and then sit down to write a blog before going to work." you'd have an easier time and more success in the long run.

Why? Because your brain will start connecting things more efficient. Wake up -> Set up water for tea -> brush teeth -> drink tea and write blog.

2-3 weeks of that treatment and the sound of boiling water or the process of brushing your teeth (bad example since it might interfer with your evening planning =P) will remind you of writing your blog and it's no longer an isolated action.



Big part of the above is why the famous new year resolutions usually end up just sitting on someones conscience at best. To form new habits or strategies it is vital that they are integrated properly into other already established habits and connected with sensual experiences.


PS: Once the habit is properly formed (aka you get up, brush your teeth, write your blog and then your mind says "Oh, cool, didn't even notice this lol") you can start breaking/adding to it without any big problems usually. Once it becomes a habit a random blog at the previous afternoon won't be able to interrupt it, stuff like that is only a problem when the habit/strategy is not properly integrated yet. (That's when you start THINKING about it.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 18 2012 03:24 GMT
#4
>r.Evo

Wow that's pretty awesome and convincing

My current routine, fwiw, is
1. wake up
2. drink water (set at bedstand before sleeping)
3. Yank laptop from desk, which is next to bed
4. fool around online until I'm more awake.
5. get out of bed to write blog.

In terms of sensory experience, I guess the sensation of drinking water, as well as its sound is what helps people wake up (I started trying this this week), and since it's such an easy thing to do while in bed, it becomes subconscious easily as well. The laptop lighting would probably help me wake up as well, but this seems suboptimal.

Maybe something that would work for me is:
1. Wake up
2. Drink water while in bed
3. Take shower
4. brush teeth
5. get back to room to write blog

This sounds pretty excellent to me, because for the past many months, my routine was:
1. wake up
2. go back to sleep.
3. return to 1 until I must wake up to go to work
4. get out of bed
5. shower
6. brush teeth
7. get clothed and go to work

So I would substitute drinking water for steps 1, 2, and 3 in my previous routine, then insert blogging before step 7.

Also, agree that this "avoiding the act other than the scheduled time" is probably only applicable during the habit formation phase.

Thanks for the input!
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 18 2012 08:03 GMT
#5
Yay, you got it.

Basicly the most important part of your post was 3. & 4. (the whole yanking around laptop part). When it comes to pure "efficiency" that is probably your biggest "leak" right there.

Like, I totally get where you come from and I enjoy doing stuff like that myself but let's face it: 90% of the time it starts with "Oh look that thread sounds cool" and ends with "OH FUCK I ENDED UP AT PAGE 30 / RANDOM WIKIPEDIA (fu wiki, seriously) ARTICLE AND ONLY GOT 20 MINUTES LEFT". If you can afford it / enjoy it more than other tasks, it's fine. If you don't want to afford it, it has to go.


I've got no idea where you live, but it would be incredibly funny to know if you tried the "new schedule" you posted this morning. My prediction would be that it still feels rather hard and you might get thrown off as soon as there is some pressure (e.g. less sleep) or some juicy temptation (an email you waited for since last night).

Basicly you're trying to subsitute the Laptop part with "Take shower" or rather you're trying to completely remove it. This is where sleep hygiene and stuff comes into play. IF you are confident that you know your sleep-rhythm well enough to be able to just do the "drink water -> go take a shower" even if something interrupted you from your perfect time, go for it. Also if you think you're able to just remind yourself of your planned schedule and execute it, go for it.


Taking myself for example, I know that I'm fine if I sleep 5 1/2 - 6 hours or about 3 1/2 hours. However, if I time my sleep in a way that I'm going for 4 1/2 - 5h I'm completely wasted and my normal stuff (for me it's drink -> sit at the side of my bed) fails.

So what I did was subscribe to some foolproof stuff that I'm interested in on my smartphone (for me it was xkcd.com, explosm.net and plusev.net) and the first thing I do after hearing my alarm sound is check their updates. It's pretty much the same effect as the laptop thingy, just with less possible failing due to temptation of the interwebs.



Just keep in mind that basicly anything in the above can be substituted by "Doh, just fucking do it! No need for tricks if you man up." - however being someone who is a huge pussy when it comes to getting up in the morning at "normal times" (which is also normal, different people have just different times) I prefer tricking myself to achieve the intended goal. <3



Also, I'm hooked. Eagerly awaiting your next blog. =)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
February 18 2012 15:23 GMT
#6
revo be my fucking life coach.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 18 2012 16:05 GMT
#7
Cool stuff It's worth it to read up on motivational psychology, it's one of the most interesting/practical things I've studied and seemed to actually ring true in my experiences (as apposed to much of psychology which just makes me feel like the 30-40% it doesn't work for).

When it comes to forming goals and habits, it's always important to recognize a difference between interesting tasks (like creative writing?) and uninteresting tasks (like going to the gym or brushing your teeth). An interesting task is ideally done because you enjoy it. You endanger your ability to continue if you trivialize something which you enjoy (although if you have a hard time getting started or find the actual process of writing tedious, perhaps that qualifies as uninteresting?). On the other hand, an uninteresting task benefits from pretty much the opposite. Empirical numbers that dictate start time, finish time, number of push ups, etc and force you to do that number instead of just saying 'I'll do my best' and performing much less/not pushing yourself to achieve your numbers.

I think creative writing is a kind of a combination of the two types, though. Getting started and actually sitting down to write more than a sentence or two can be very difficult and daunting (especially if you care about the quality of the result). You can drive yourself mad trying to find the perfect time when you will do your best writing. I would say that could fall under the uninteresting part. I've read over and over and experienced in my own life that for writers attempting a piece with any kind of length, they need to set a time every day when they just force themselves to work on it. However, once I get started and the creative juices are flowing, it actually does become interesting. Worrying about how many pages I'm writing becomes distracting and demotivating. If I set a number one day I might realise I have more to write after I've done it (but of course the next day I might be running empty on ideas?). This is the tricky part. For the sake of discipline you want to set that minimum number, but if you do, you can end up writing very badly to fill up space, focus less on quality and structure than on length. It makes an interesting task boring, even if you can get through it. Yet, if you don't set that minimum number, it's hard to work with a deadline (self-imposed or not). Thus I think that it's most important to make sure you are actually enjoying the process or writing before anything else, even if you are associating it with your early morning routine.

~I'm no expert and might be misidentifying things here. But some food for thought if nothing else.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
February 18 2012 17:46 GMT
#8
On February 18 2012 17:03 r.Evo wrote:
Yay, you got it.

Basicly the most important part of your post was 3. & 4. (the whole yanking around laptop part). When it comes to pure "efficiency" that is probably your biggest "leak" right there.

Like, I totally get where you come from and I enjoy doing stuff like that myself but let's face it: 90% of the time it starts with "Oh look that thread sounds cool" and ends with "OH FUCK I ENDED UP AT PAGE 30 / RANDOM WIKIPEDIA (fu wiki, seriously) ARTICLE AND ONLY GOT 20 MINUTES LEFT". If you can afford it / enjoy it more than other tasks, it's fine. If you don't want to afford it, it has to go.


ROFL that definitely happened yesterday as I wrote this blog. I ended up starting a little before 8am, and wrote it in 30 minutes then took off for work.


So what I did was subscribe to some foolproof stuff that I'm interested in on my smartphone (for me it was xkcd.com, explosm.net and plusev.net) and the first thing I do after hearing my alarm sound is check their updates. It's pretty much the same effect as the laptop thingy, just with less possible failing due to temptation of the interwebs.


Hmm maybe I can do "look at the morning's stock market numbers on ipod.
As you say, same effect, less danger.



Just keep in mind that basicly anything in the above can be substituted by "Doh, just fucking do it! No need for tricks if you man up." - however being someone who is a huge pussy when it comes to getting up in the morning at "normal times" (which is also normal, different people have just different times) I prefer tricking myself to achieve the intended goal. <3


Nah our wills are weak. It needs a helping hand at all times.



Also, I'm hooked. Eagerly awaiting your next blog. =)



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