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guN-viCe
United States687 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On February 01 2012 07:04 Wrongspeedy wrote: Its true though, when you smoke weed you feel great and content. Why do you need motivation if you already feel great? I'm dealing with some depression myself and in the past I have used MJ to cover for that. I don't think its as simple as you are depressed or you are not though. I think just take some time (not smoking) to think about what you want and the underlying causes of why you want them. Realize what in your life you think should change and do something about it! Good luck. Edit: Also if you really are getting good sleep and not waking up rested I would see a doctor. its all about negative descent vs positive ascent ! not talking about weed here weed is as good as you make it out to be, just like life and any other thing that doesn't kill you right away | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9153 Posts
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Rickson
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Seeing all the love and care from TL.net makes me happier and motivated already! | ||
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On February 01 2012 07:31 itsjustatank wrote: The internet is not the place to go for medical advice. Go to a doctor or psychologist and get some help. Relying on unscientific internet self-administered tests and diagnoses from internet denizens is not prudent. completely agree. OP, get youself to a doctor just for a chat. | ||
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SOyuncastor
Mexico40 Posts
I have a carreer with no job because this carreer was the only thing life allowed me to have. DId I mention no job?. Not good now because I'm too old for videogames, the only real passion I've ever had. No Health, no money, no job. So it must be depression or I'm a really old emo. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On February 01 2012 07:45 Rickson wrote: Thanks for all the replies, but because this is the first time that something like this has happened and has only been going on for about a couple weeks now...I'll wait a bit longer until i see a professional. Seeing all the love and care from TL.net makes me happier and motivated already! No you dont want to wait longer. I'm talking from personal experience here, just go have a talk with a doctor. He/she would know if there is anything wrong with you and if anything needs to be done. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On February 01 2012 05:47 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Sounds like depression to me. I was depressed from age 4 onward to varying degrees, sometimes managing nothing but just laying on my hammock and other times almost completely normal. Also, I had trouble telling I was depressed, despite the fact I was, literally, doing nothing but laying on the hammock all day sometimes. Still, no matter what the team liquid posters say, you still need to see a doctor. Depression is a chemical abnormality in the brain and will kill you if you try to ignore it. what do you mean? it obviously won't kill you. also, the serotonine theory is pretty shitty and most likely wrong, imho. look at this substance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tianeptine ..it's a selective serotonin reuptake enhancer (SSRE), which does the opposite of an SSRI  . yet it works.the only reason why people made up the theory about serotonine, is because increasing serotonine levels was proven to decrease the symptoms. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On February 01 2012 08:23 Psychobabas wrote: No you dont want to wait longer. I'm talking from personal experience here, just go have a talk with a doctor. He/she would know if there is anything wrong with you and if anything needs to be done. so? what will the doctor do? imho, they will check his thyroid gland and if it's healthy, they'll tell him to see a psychologist who will immediately diagnose him as depressed. some doctors immediately prescribe antidepressants too. was your experience different? were my doctors shitty? anyway, yea, see a doctor to get your thyroid gland checked. good first step. | ||
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ZiphV5.0
Netherlands14 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On February 01 2012 09:00 ZiphV5.0 wrote: DEPRESSION Q_Q_Q_Q_Q fucking whiners, everybody is depressed once in a while get over it or kill yourself. lolll i see red in your future.. | ||
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run.at.me
Australia550 Posts
Unless its a chemical imbalance (very unlikely, you would have a number of symptoms that you have not expressed), this is most likely a subconscious response to unaddressed issue(s). 'There's nothing it could be..' we tell ourselves, because it's easier to sweep dirt under the rug than deal with uncomfortable things in life. These issues don't have to be 'i was molested as a child' issues, but rather simple things like the direction our life is going, the question of whether your friends are 'truly' your friends, and etc. See a psychologist, talk about life and try to see what the real problem is, as this is not a phsyical one | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On February 01 2012 09:03 run.at.me wrote: despite you not being able to find the cause of whats making you feel the way you do, there is something in your life(/past) that isn't being addressed. Unless its a chemical imbalance (very unlikely, you would have a number of symptoms that you have not expressed), this is most likely a subconscious response to unaddressed issue(s). 'There's nothing it could be..' we tell ourselves, because it's easier to sweep dirt under the rug than deal with uncomfortable things in life. These issues don't have to be 'i was molested as a child' issues, but rather simple things like the direction our life is going, the question of whether your friends are 'truly' your friends, and etc. See a psychologist, talk about life and try to see what the real problem is, as this is not a phsyical one are you a psychologist? or studying psychology? i literally have the same symptoms as OP, except that i smoked a lot of weed, which might be the real reason for me. but a psychologist diagnosed me as depressive, even though i told her about everything :/ ... to say it with dragon's words... "what dose mean?" | ||
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Chef
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IMO you just sound like you're in a rut and need to pick yourself up. Could you be prescribed drugs that would change how you feel about it? Yeah. But actually see your friends, stop playing HoN all day, get in habits and start doing things you want to do. If you still feel bored with friends, unhappy going out, aren't getting any fulfillment out of accomplishing goals, then maybe you should consider help. But right now you're describing something that I'm pretty sure everyone feels when they stop doing things. I don't really believe in a magic doctor who will solve all problems. The truth is that sometimes doctors make things worse, especially if there wasn't anything really wrong with you to begin with, or if you get misdiagnosed and they start treating something you didn't have. People are very quick to recommend it without question, but you SHOULD be aware of the risks, even if you decide to go ahead with it. I think the state of our society, the saturation of news about world problems in our daily lives, and the simple grind of what it takes to live in the western world are all more likely causes of demotivation or sadness or frustration than a genetic fact of your existence. What that means is that you have to find meaning in your life that can overcome these things. tl;dr: It is up to you if you want to see a doctor, but it's my advice that you see if you can help yourself first. Don't play victim if you don't have to. | ||
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run.at.me
Australia550 Posts
On February 01 2012 09:06 beg wrote: are you a psychologist? or studying psychology? i literally have the same symptoms as OP, except that i smoked a lot of weed, which might be the real reason for me. but a psychologist diagnosed me as depressive, even though i told her about everything :/ ... to say it with dragon's words... "what dose mean?" nah neither a psychologist or psych major, I've just lived through enough of my parents problems, and then with my own shit, having seen a psychologist (an average one...) i've smoked plenty of weed too, can't anymore coz my mind goes crazy (i went through bad anxiety phase and cant smoke anymore... sad story), but it's not a 'cause' for depression... Heres the thing with psych's - they like to 'diagnose' and people get labelled. All depression is, is a frame of mind - and you are labelled 'depressed' when you are in this frame of mind without there being a necessary or apparent cause. People feel like shit all the time, but it comes and goes, but 'depression' is when this shit feeling lingers more than it should and without reason. Depression can also just be learned behaviour, like from your parent. Lets say your mum has bouts of depression throughout your childhood and onwards, this emotional response to whatever will likely be passed on to you, without you ever actually being aware of it. This is just an example of how simple depression can occur, and why people who have feelings of depression never actually understand why. It's just excessive negative thinking... and it is habitual and learned and can be turned around with the right 'training' you could say - pinpointing irrational conclusions, not allowing yourslelf to sit in self-pity, etc etc all that psychology crap. Its funny to see how people think depression is like getting the cold. 'Stop whining everyone gets depressed'... these people lack so much intelligence im surprised that have the capacity to function on day to day basis. | ||
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beg
991 Posts
On February 01 2012 09:39 run.at.me wrote: nah neither a psychologist or psych major, I've just lived through enough of my parents problems, and then with my own shit, having seen a psychologist (an average one...) i've smoked plenty of weed too, can't anymore coz my mind goes crazy (i went through bad anxiety phase and cant smoke anymore... sad story), but it's not a 'cause' for depression... Heres the thing with psych's - they like to 'diagnose' and people get labelled. All depression is, is a frame of mind - and you are labelled 'depressed' when you are in this frame of mind without there being a necessary or apparent cause. People feel like shit all the time, but it comes and goes, but 'depression' is when this shit feeling lingers more than it should and without reason. Depression can also just be learned behaviour, like from your parent. Lets say your mum has bouts of depression throughout your childhood and onwards, this emotional response to whatever will likely be passed on to you, without you ever actually being aware of it. This is just an example of how simple depression can occur, and why people who have feelings of depression never actually understand why. It's just excessive negative thinking... and it is habitual and learned and can be turned around with the right 'training' you could say - pinpointing irrational conclusions, not allowing yourslelf to sit in self-pity, etc etc all that psychology crap. Its funny to see how people think depression is like getting the cold. 'Stop whining everyone gets depressed'... these people lack so much intelligence im surprised that have the capacity to function on day to day basis. most people here talk about losing all motivation. maybe you are right with your statement about unadressed issues, but on the other hand losing all your drive isn't a "frame of mind", is it? | ||
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UmbraaeternuS
Chile476 Posts
On February 01 2012 05:38 Rickson wrote: Am I depressed? Before I make an appointment to see the doctor, I thought I would post on TL.Net to see what the brilliant people there have to say -certainly it must be better than webMD where, according to them, I have Schizophrenia. I've lost motivation for everything, especially for school and social life, which is odd because I was very passionate about these two domains more than anything else that I had in my life. Maintaining a tight inner circle of friends who i used to hang out with two to three times a week, I no longer feel like contacting them or leaving the house but staying in my room eating endlessly and playing HoN. The 4.0 gpa that i had in the first semester, something which i was very proud about, means nothing to me now, and school has lost all its meaning. I try to get down to study but it's really hard to do something when you just dont give two shits about it. Before I used to be a very 'caught up' person, I would be very emotional and quick to react and many of my friends have always told me to chill out before I made the next move. But now, I feel like I'm on the opposite ends of this spectrum, I no longer really care about anything, I no longer have any initiative to be excited or have something to overreact about. I am exhausted all the time- normally I would be a morning person where i got up and felt refreshed with 5~6 hours of sleep, turn the TV on, browse teamliquid and gg.net while sipping on some coffee and eating cereal. But these days, 9-10 hours of sleep don't even cut it for me and I feel tired all the time. But the most odd thing is, I'm not sad. I have no reason to be sad.I don't have beef with anybody or have failed at something I tried hard at, I look back at the situation I am in and I can say that i am more than blessed with everything i have. So Teamliquid, what do you think? Am I depressed? Or am I just having a bitch syndrome where I just need to chill the fuck out for a bit,roll a j, and wait for it to pass on? Let me start off by stating that I'm an MD, but it's pretty hard to make the diagnosis of a depression without a complete mental examination. Still, you gave a pretty interesting fact: The loss of motivation. That is called "apathy" and it is often confused with "anhedonia" (lack of REWARD); the later, by your description of your feelings, is what you seem to be having, and it is a key symptom of a depressive episode, if we're strict and follow the "rules" of ICD-10 and DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria, as is the "lack of energy" or "tiredness" that is another of the criteria needed to make the diagnosis. My opinion is that you might indeed be suffering a depressive episode and that you should go see your doctor to be examined, as, like I said, it is extremely difficult to diagnose somebody with just a post, although your symptoms seem to fit the diagnostic criteria. | ||
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Ankh1221
United States8 Posts
Physical: Some people are born with chemical imbalances, in which case staying motivated takes immense amounts of effort. They physically find it hard to wake up and stay awake throughout the day. They may experience physical discomfort throughout the day which saps their energy. Getting through the day is just harder for them. Yet, these people CAN avoid depression if they work really hard at staying fit (exercise and nutrition), surround themselves with positive, helpful people, and develop good habits (such as taking it easy on the L's). Basically, they work very hard to treat themselves well. Look at Liquid'Tyler for a perfect example. The guy's a fucking hero. Emotional: Then there are people who do not have chemical imbalances, rather they have lots of emotional distress. This can be triggered by things such as witnessing death, participation in mother-fucking-war, extreme bullying etc. etc. However, this doesn't necessarily cause depression either. Even in these scenarios strong willed people can pull themselves together and remain relentlessly positive, thus avoiding the trap of depression. See some of Day[9]'s discussions for elaboration. God people in the SC community are so awesome. You have to examine your life recently, specifically looking for emotional distress or physical lifestyle changes (playing metric shit tons of HoN, daily blunt rides, having a fucked up sleep schedule) and counter these bad activities with good activities. If you spend 11 hours a day behind your computer (Hon or forums or whatnot), try cutting that back to 7 hours and exercising an hour a day. Actually that's way too dramatic a change, just exercise 30 minutes every single day. If you're feeling isolated from your friends, don't attach any negativity to that, banish all that negative shit to the nether realm, and hit up your best friend asking him if he wants to get a hamburger, or go party with some hot bids. Find whatever is keeping you in the dumps, and replace is (or at least supplement it) with something enormously positive that combats the root of the problem. My tips for staying out of depression: 1- Go to sleep at a normal hour. Really. If your sleep schedule is fucked, gradually bring it back to normal. Video games are just as good (they're better) when the sun's up. 2- Get some exercise. There are countless studies proving the positive effects of physical activity on escaping depression. It's true. Any activity will do really. It's much better if it's outside. Sun is good for you too. 3- Don't smoke so many drugs. That being said, I still smoke. Man, I love weed. Shit's beautiful. But we all know what goes up must come down, and with every high comes a low. Try and limit your smoking here and there. Personally, I try not to smoke in the mornings since it tends to fuck up my entire day (wake & bake = love & hate). Try to save weed for special occasions like parties or doing cool shit with friends like laser tag. Or Lord of The Rings marathons. It's the best way to enjoy the drug. 4- Keep your inboxes empty. Basically, this just means don't let shit pile up. Whether it's homework, or laundry, or your actual E-mail, it just feels good to have empty inboxes. You may be one of those people (I'm one too) who doesn't really get stressed out about shit piling up (it goes along with the pothead bit). Yet, even for us resilient folk, too much shit on you plate will start to wear you down, and there's actually a great feeling accompanied by clearing your inboxes. $- Here I'm gonna let you in on a little secret that most people have no clue about, yet it's possibly the most beneficial activity any person could ever partake in. It will take you to heights previously unimaginable. Meditation. Holy fuckstockings let me say it again. Meditation. This shit will save your life, I kid you not. Sitting silently for 5 minutes a day, trying not to let any thoughts overcome your brain, trying to keep your mind empty and calm. It will be totally futile the first time you try it (especially for us hyperactive gamers) and you'll just end up daydreaming about tits or something. But take it seriously and work on it every day, 5 minutes a day for one week. On the seventh day you will open your eyes after the meditation and feel this incredible sensation of being calm. It is unbelievable, and it's addicting once you start. Please, please, please, I beg of you please try this out, 5 minutes a day for just one week. 35 minutes. It is the number one thing that has helped me stay positive, successful, and out of depression. Please try it. It's so wonderful. I'm no postdoctoral-clinicopharmatherapist or anything, but I do have some experience with this stuff. All my life I've had seemingly random spurts of depression and lethargy, and often I would have to take a week or two off from school until I got myself back on track. It was never a serious problem until two years ago when my dad died of cancer (i'm 16 now). He was everything to me and his death tore me to bits. All that year I had zero in my life. There was nothing but sleep, and sudden bursts of severe sobbing from time to time. I refused to take antidepressants as I don't believe in being under the influence 24/7 on anything. I was totally lost, until I discovered the marvelous miracle of meditation. Or perhaps it found me. Anyway, I started meditating consistently, first for 5 minutes a day, increasing that number gradually. Thanks to the meditation, I soon had the motivation and energy to start exercising, doing my homework, sleeping on a schedule etc. Now I'm a totally functional person and I have huge dreams and aspirations. I'm telling you this stuff works from experience. Don't wait until you hit rock bottom though, take charge right now and sit on your fucking carpet for 5 goddamn minutes cross-legged or whatever your chicken-fucking-legs can handle. It will get your life in order for you. All you have to do is give it 5 minutes a day. I digress. Feel better, man. | ||
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Meeks
United States132 Posts
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