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SHOUTcraft Invitational 4 - Postmortem - Page 2

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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
January 16 2012 20:19 GMT
#21
This is my favorite online tourny as well. Everything is brilliant.

There is a small issue I have with something you said however,

On January 17 2012 04:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Severing our reliance on community funding permanently would be the ultimate goal of this thing.


I know that you do not intend this, but this statement is scary. I like the fact that you feel you owe your viewers something as they have provided the resources to make this happen. I am not saying this will happen but without viewer funding executive decisions can be made without the support of the community and viewers may feel less connected to the tournament. I would say that instead of ever severing ties with community sponsorship, you just continue raising the prize pool as your own revenue keeps increasing. I doubt any player or team would oppose to the prize pool being raised from what it was originally announced as when they signed up.

Just some food for thought.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Quintem
Profile Joined April 2010
England9 Posts
January 16 2012 20:20 GMT
#22
Good read. I watched as the viewers went up and up. Seeing this tournament grow is a great thing.
Would of been nice to see the finals have a gone on a big longer not look 4-0 even though each game was close and a great watch.

Tournament has also tempted me into using Reapers a bit more against Protoss. (Thanks ThorZaIN)

Look forward to seeing SCI5. Keep up the great work TB.
samw
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
England443 Posts
January 16 2012 20:24 GMT
#23
Cheers for a great tourney TB. Colin Smith is my idol
"You will walk in the garden of his turbulence"
Raender
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands10 Posts
January 16 2012 20:24 GMT
#24
Amazing tournament once again! loved watching it and cant wait for the next.

@ Mattchew if I recall correct the maximum prizepool allowed by blizzard is 5k USD without having to give them a cut of the pool. Thats why it isnt bigger.
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France656 Posts
January 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#25
Always like your recaps after your events TB, regardless of whether you were an organizer or "merely" caster. Keep it up ! And don't get banned
TheWilki
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark10 Posts
January 16 2012 20:25 GMT
#26
Always been a fan TB! I really enjoy these invitationals!

Keep up the good work!
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
January 16 2012 20:29 GMT
#27
I love that you do these things TB. I wish the rest of the industry took cues from you!

Nevadie!

5/5
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
January 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#28
next time try to sync up your matches better with my battlegrounds in SWTOR xD can't watch both cause my pc sucks too much by now

Amazing tournament though, the off-game time was imo perfectly used with displaying ads/grid/etc. The only thing i did not find as perfect was the seemingly tiny studio space. You should try to find a slightly bigger room next time so both of you fit into the image without having to sit on each others laps. you were always very close to the edges if not even partly cut off.

Thanks for the show!
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
cyron
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 20:36:40
January 16 2012 20:36 GMT
#29
Great tournament, was awesome to watch!
On January 17 2012 05:19 Mattchew wrote:
This is my favorite online tourny as well. Everything is brilliant.

There is a small issue I have with something you said however,

Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 04:27 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Severing our reliance on community funding permanently would be the ultimate goal of this thing.


I know that you do not intend this, but this statement is scary. I like the fact that you feel you owe your viewers something as they have provided the resources to make this happen. I am not saying this will happen but without viewer funding executive decisions can be made without the support of the community and viewers may feel less connected to the tournament. I would say that instead of ever severing ties with community sponsorship, you just continue raising the prize pool as your own revenue keeps increasing. I doubt any player or team would oppose to the prize pool being raised from what it was originally announced as when they signed up.

Just some food for thought.


Blizzard capped the maximum amount tournaments can give out without prior approval from them (usually involves that they take some portion of the ad revenue or such) at $5,000. Due to this it is impossible for them to increase the prize limit past this
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
January 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#30
Great write-up, keep up the good and honest work ! : )
IM.Nestea | IM.MvP | MvP.DongRaeGu. | Genius | ST.Parting I SlayerS.MMA
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
January 16 2012 20:49 GMT
#31
Your such a baws TB! I'm not the greatest fan of your commentary style, but I LOVE the effort you put into the things you do. I think people like you really carry a community.
thanks
do it!
eXeElNino
Profile Joined December 2011
Wales51 Posts
January 16 2012 21:02 GMT
#32
If any Korean can get invited to SCI5 .... please let one be Dragon!!!
All hail the KING! MKP <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 16 2012 21:07 GMT
#33
Slayers Boxer for SCi5 please! He deserves it for all he has done for esports.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
January 16 2012 21:07 GMT
#34
Really appreciating Your work! Keep it up!
Pathetic Greta hater.
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
January 16 2012 21:08 GMT
#35
Loved the tournament! Really happy you invited grubby , I love watching him play and he made for amazing games.

Can't wait for next one!
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Loeder
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands9 Posts
January 16 2012 21:09 GMT
#36
TB thanks for all your troubles! Loving the tourneys. Now... if you could get MC (SK.MC?)... that would be... awesome!
<3
JimPanzer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany339 Posts
January 16 2012 21:13 GMT
#37
Great tournament, great roundup! Much love for you and your team TB!

Can't wait for the SCI5, what I would give to see Ryung participate in it...
Hoonose
Profile Joined June 2011
United States132 Posts
January 16 2012 21:19 GMT
#38
Thanks for an awesome tournament TB! I can't imagine it's easy simultaneously organizing and casting a tournament for 12 hours a day.

I have one question though regarding DarKFoRcE's total winnings (for the sake of accuracy on the Liquipedia page: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_SHOUTcraft_Invitational/4) - how much did he win?
Was it: $1021 = $100 (from being eliminated in group stages) + $821 (from tips) + $100 (for the comeback bounty, while I heard you increased from $50, for a truly amazing comeback)
Or was the comeback bounty placed directly in his tip jar, making his total winnings $921?

I know this doesn't actually matter that much for most people besides DarKFoRcE, but it bugs me when something on Liquipedia is wrong...
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
January 16 2012 21:20 GMT
#39
Shoutcraft is amazing.

What is even more amazing are these recaps, you're the only host / tournament to give such insight in how everything went. Really like it.


Now go make more Terraria video's
We know nothing.
sl0v
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway51 Posts
January 16 2012 21:21 GMT
#40
Been following your work ever since you got into the sc2-scene, and all your tournaments and other content never fail to impress. Looking forward to your march-tourney, until then, prosper! :D
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