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cArn and Korea, ESWC, PPSL, 2011 - Part 3 - Page 2

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ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
January 10 2012 14:48 GMT
#21
RESPECT +100

Fuck yeah cArn~!
A time to live.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 10 2012 16:01 GMT
#22
Nice read. I'm guessing this is the qualifier where you barely miss out by losing to Cezzane in the finals .
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
January 10 2012 16:43 GMT
#23
Thanks for the great write. I miss hanging out with you!! Carn fighting!!
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
January 10 2012 18:52 GMT
#24
On January 10 2012 22:24 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 20:39 iamke55 wrote:
On January 10 2012 13:56 cArn- wrote:
I didn't want to let anything that was within my grasp to luck.
This is how you make sure you have the best chances at achieving what you're aiming for.

Now this is the proper mindset for a progamer! Will there be a part 4?


Yet all his builds were just based on coinflipping (luck). When you write from 1st person perspective I guess people will always feel empathy with the writer, and i guess a lot of people reading this will think his mindset was good, and alot of people probably will think that i am dick for "critizing" a player sharing his throughts, but really this guys mindset is pretty bad.

So he cant win with marien/tank --> he doesn't want to do that build and wants to rely on other builds. This is just a bad midnset (unless you have no plan to become good long-termish).

I guess a lot of people will say that the time was different back then and that all terrans did gimmick stuff. This isn't true, at january terrans were learnign to play solid. Back at summer 2010 (and beta), yeh all terrans did stupid shit, like opening cloack banshee vs toss every game and hoping their builds were unsafe and that they could not multitask, or they would take late expansions vs zerg and allin every other game. But in january 2011 most terran players were trying to learn a solid approach, yet carn did stuff that was so allinsh / harassbased --> relying on opponents mistakes.

I think what carn wanted to try and do, was do get really good at executing his weird gimmicky builds, and hence getting an advantage over opponents who were not used to deal with them. This can obv. be a fine strategy, as long as you admit that this is your gameplan, and realize that you are relying on opponents mistakes.


I think you are incorrect. Sure if you don't use and practice marine tank you won't improve at playing marine tank but you can get a better player playing other styles too just because it isn't standard doesn't mean that it is more gimmicky or a worse style in general. It's not like his mindset was going cloak every game and if it doesn't work he just ggs out or pulls all scvs and a moves. He had refined game plans even though they weren't aiming at playing a 30 minute macro game. If you go for a 1 rax expand you are also hoping your opponent makes some kind of mistake at some point in the game because otherwise you won't win so trying to force a mistake early is a fine strategy and often times better than playing completely standard.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
[KGS]Slacker
Profile Joined November 2009
Denmark82 Posts
January 10 2012 22:53 GMT
#25
ETA on part 4? Just read all 3 parts and craving more .
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
January 10 2012 23:02 GMT
#26
It's a travesty that this doesn't have more responses. Easily one of the best blogs in quite a long time and it was extremely kind of you to share your train of thought over time.

Not everyone is able to remember and capture their experiences over such a long stretch of time. This is really quite a treat.
TheCtd400
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 00:25:41
January 11 2012 00:25 GMT
#27
On January 10 2012 13:56 cArn- wrote:
He was doing fairly well and actually ended up losing to something that I was experimenting with a bit during my practice lately in TvP but didn’t have time to finalize, Thors


Thorzain's influence was felt even before his TSL run
That awkward moment when you realize you've cancelled stim/combat shield because you lifted the barracks. | Thorzain Fighting!!!
Liveon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Netherlands1083 Posts
January 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#28
Just read all three parts, brilliant. Can't wait for the fourth!
Hearthstone manager ECVisualize, Head Admin DSCL
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
January 11 2012 01:01 GMT
#29
Nice read. Think you need to have a strong solid standard game or you will lose to players you shouldn't lose to. Really hope you keep improving and eventually can translate into nice results!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 11 2012 03:57 GMT
#30
Can't wait till part 4... 5/5
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
January 11 2012 09:49 GMT
#31
waiting for part 4, awesome read, I really have a ton of respect for people dropping everything to achieve their goals.
YoloStar <3
keuja
Profile Joined November 2011
22 Posts
January 12 2012 04:05 GMT
#32
Awesome blog. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
January 13 2012 10:28 GMT
#33
This is a great blog I never seen this TT
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