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The secret history of Kim Jong Il

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Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 20 2011 22:55 GMT
#1
Here is a lengthy article about the life of Kim Jong Il, and some of the past events in North Korea, written by one of Kim Jong Il's private tutors:

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2008/08/12/the_secret_history_of_kim_jong_il?hidecomments=yes&page=full

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shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
December 20 2011 23:08 GMT
#2
Wow.This was a crazy read. Thanks for posting this, will definitely be something I share with my friends.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#3
This looks promising. Going to read it after dinner.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
KNICK
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Germany248 Posts
December 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#4
Extremely interesting read, thanks for sharing!
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
December 20 2011 23:50 GMT
#5
very sad + Show Spoiler +
especially the part about killing his entire family
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 20 2011 23:51 GMT
#6
very interesting read, nothign particularly new but it's a very nice point of view.
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 00:59:51
December 20 2011 23:55 GMT
#7
That was quite long, and very intriguing. What a life that teacher had, the journey he made from war after war, literally and figuratively. I can't even imagine how many philosophical questions would he have to ask himself everyday and then not go insane. Having to go through every bit of all that must've been...unbearable for anyone.


Also, how all the things he describes parallel to Orwell's book is impeccable.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 20 2011 23:59 GMT
#8
The first part of the article was incredibly touching and sad, can't imagine what that would be like at all.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 21 2011 00:03 GMT
#9
that was a great read, definitely worth the time.
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Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
December 21 2011 00:09 GMT
#10
That is fascinating. Thanks for the link!
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mAgixWTF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany103 Posts
December 21 2011 00:10 GMT
#11
fascinating from beginning to end. Thanks alot Cloud.
HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
December 21 2011 00:16 GMT
#12
Thank you for the link, absolutely fascinating read!
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27180 Posts
December 21 2011 00:17 GMT
#13
Great read, thanks for the link.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
December 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#14
This is a really good read, but it's really sad and a bit scary

+ Show Spoiler +
especially the part where they sent away short people on boats to die so they wouldn't spread their "substandard genes" fucking evil
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
December 21 2011 00:27 GMT
#15
Very good read. Great find
Logic is Overrated
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 21 2011 00:50 GMT
#16
Great read. Its so dark jeesh
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 21 2011 00:56 GMT
#17
Illuminating, but it made me sad :/
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
December 21 2011 01:03 GMT
#18
Foreign Policy is a great website. I highly recommend it for people who care about learning about what's going on the world.
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optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
December 21 2011 01:09 GMT
#19
can someone explain the defect part, i dont understand how he became a traitor just by talking to his sister.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
December 21 2011 01:12 GMT
#20
On December 21 2011 10:09 optical630 wrote:
can someone explain the defect part, i dont understand how he became a traitor just by talking to his sister.

He left NK and the guy who set him up with his sister was an agent for NK. The agent told him to go back and the teacher said no, so they killed his family. He became a traitor because they didn't want him to talk about things like this and because he left.
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