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On December 21 2011 14:34 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 14:11 Mobius_1 wrote:On December 21 2011 13:04 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
ffffff at chinese internet censorship, this is taking so much getting used to, I wish i could read it >< I can read it though... Try and try again? Ahh it finally loaded, is it normal for you to be able to access stuff just by trying again and again? I'm kinda new at dealing with the firewall :D
This isn't the firewall blocking it, it's just China having slow connection to websites abroad. If it's a firewalled site your browser should returns a 101 error.
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doubleupgradeobbies!
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On December 21 2011 15:38 Mobius_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 14:34 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:On December 21 2011 14:11 Mobius_1 wrote:On December 21 2011 13:04 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
ffffff at chinese internet censorship, this is taking so much getting used to, I wish i could read it >< I can read it though... Try and try again? Ahh it finally loaded, is it normal for you to be able to access stuff just by trying again and again? I'm kinda new at dealing with the firewall :D This isn't the firewall blocking it, it's just China having slow connection to websites abroad. If it's a firewalled site your browser should returns a 101 error.
oh >< it didn't load in 15 mins the first 2 times I tried and constantly failed to load for the next hour or so, so i assumed it was just blocked.
edit: further investigation suggests i also don't get meaningful error message (possibly due to being on a company laptop that only has a really old version of ie) 
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very good read. Its funny how everybody was surprised at how normal he seemed when SK's president visited him in Pyungyang and see him talk for the first time.
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Nice read.
Living under a totalitarian regime requires a daily suspension of disbelief. Nowhere is that more true today than in North Korea, where otherwise ethical people contort themselves into untenable moral positions because they've bought into the oft-repeated notion that their country is "Paradise on Earth." Simply to survive in North Korea, citizens must believe they are living in a chosen land. And when ideological indoctrination morphs into reality, the dictator need not even be nearby to spread fear. Not if average people will do his bidding for him.
I found this part to be particularly chilling. We all know that this is happening, but to hear about it from a first hand source just makes it that much scarier.
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Wow, thanks for sharing. Depressing but illuminating.
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Incredibly interesting story. I think a lot of people underestimate the effects of long-term propaganda as the whole "paradise on earth" thing sounds eerily like a cult. It's no wonder that people are crying hysterically over Kim Jong Il's death, the North Korean regime is a religion to many of these people.
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Very very interesting read to say the least. It's really sad what's going on up there and I hope shit doesn't hit the fan anytime soon. I know i'll definitely be following any NK events more closely now. But on a side note it appears the article was published in Sept 2008. Kinda surprising it just popped up on TL now i guess.
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TYVM for this, amazing article. Fkd up shit.
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This is an incredible article, thanks so much for sharing.
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Wow, didn't expect such an interesting read. Thanks for finding this.
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EPT
