• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:39
CEST 23:39
KST 06:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War845.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202622Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! ASL FINALS HYPE VIDEO 2X BW General Discussion GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal A [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 15190 users

Nestea vs Naniwa Korean Twitterstorm - Page 31

Blogs > Waxangel
Post a Reply
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 44 Next All
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#601
There you have it, bounty hunter lost sight of his money so he threw one.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:34:07
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#602
On December 14 2011 00:26 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:23 Eee wrote:
I guess Koreans are drama queens lol, when I read that nani did something bm I thought he had gone personal against someone not a frickin probe rush. Making so much drama of this is so stupid...


On behalf of the drama queens, I apologize that Korean programers actually value their fans thus consider Naniwa's actions unprofessional.

I think MC said it best, a professional gamer should try to give his best in every broadcast match, regardless of his mind set. It's an ideal, but one which can never be fully realized.

On the other hand, showmanship and fan service should never be valued higher than the competitive spirit, because that is what really keeps professional starcraft alive. I think it would be even more harmful if someone played only to entertain and not to win.
machiavelli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8 Posts
December 13 2011 15:33 GMT
#603
While what he did was terrible, NaNiwa seems to have some psychiatric instability, and I can see him being overwhelmed by his defeat and thinking, why do I care so much? I think a lot of people could have this as a feeling. The difference is, most pro gamers would continue. But, I think it's best not to over-sensationalize this. It's a guy who hasn't left kid behind acting like a kid.
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
December 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#604
On December 14 2011 00:33 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:26 MayorITC wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:23 Eee wrote:
I guess Koreans are drama queens lol, when I read that nani did something bm I thought he had gone personal against someone not a frickin probe rush. Making so much drama of this is so stupid...


On behalf of the drama queens, I apologize that Korean programers actually value their fans thus consider Naniwa's actions unprofessional.

I think MC said it best, a professional gamer should try to give his best in every broadcast match, regardless of his mind set. It's an ideal, but one which can never be fully realized.

On the other hand, showmanship and fan service should never be valued higher than the competitive spirit, because that is what really keeps professional starcraft alive. I think it would be even more harmful if someone played only to entertain and not to win.


The job of a pro whatever, be it footballer, baseball player, SC2 player is to COMPETE, not just win. Yes I want to see my favorite teams and/or players win of course. But primarily I want to see them try their damn hardest to win and show some damn heart and passion for the game.
If you are only a fan of team or player(s) when they win, and don't watch them when they are losing but at least are trying their hardest, then that's being a bandwagoner, not a true fan.

Which is what MC was saying I believe
Best in the world at what I do
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:36:18
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#605
On December 14 2011 00:33 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:26 MayorITC wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:23 Eee wrote:
I guess Koreans are drama queens lol, when I read that nani did something bm I thought he had gone personal against someone not a frickin probe rush. Making so much drama of this is so stupid...


On behalf of the drama queens, I apologize that Korean programers actually value their fans thus consider Naniwa's actions unprofessional.

I think MC said it best, a professional gamer should try to give his best in every broadcast match, regardless of his mind set. It's an ideal, but one which can never fully realized.

On the other hand, showmanship and fan service should never be valued higher than the competitive spirit, because that is what really keeps professional starcraft alive. I think it would be even more harmful if someone played only to entertain and not to win.

Agreed. It's one thing to be a competitor, but realize why you're a competitor and it's because of your fans. They're your employers and you owe them some entertaining games. Meaningless in regards to the tournament or not, a lot of people were looking forward to Naniwa vs. Nestea SPECIFICALLY. Nestea himself was looking forward to it to try and redeem himself. Am I wrong to think that every single naniwa fan really wanted him to take a game off nestea at least before he got knocked out of the group?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#606
The worst in all this is Choay's twit. The guy have no shame.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
December 13 2011 15:36 GMT
#607
On December 14 2011 00:35 WhiteDog wrote:
The worst in all this is Choay's twit. The guy have no shame.


no ad hominem will u?
pulperi
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland87 Posts
December 13 2011 15:37 GMT
#608
On December 14 2011 00:30 JohnMatrix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:27 DeekZ wrote:
On December 14 2011 00:19 DNA.MPK wrote:
LOL Naniwa. A lot of players would have killed to be in that tournament, and he probe rushes?


He
was
already
eliminated
from
the
tournament
and
so
was
Nestea

+ Show Spoiler +
the game meant nothing herp derp



you cant drop a game like this when there is a production value behind. I mean he sent his probes to Nestea mainbase but he could have try a proxy 2 gates with zealots to show that he was kind of pissed to have loose vs cheesy play (polt, mma)


Are you people really that mad that you got robbed a match of proxy 2gate? Like, I'm sure everyone wanted to see a epic grudge match, where naniwa once again shows nestea who's the boss (lol), but there was nothing on the line for either player so expecting it to happen would have been naive. Big whoop.
MrShankly
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom371 Posts
December 13 2011 15:39 GMT
#609
WAYYYYYYYYYYY too hash lol.
DONATE SC2 BETA KEY TO ME PLEASE
nicotn
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands186 Posts
December 13 2011 15:39 GMT
#610
Its all about motivation, i would not want to play in a tournament anymore when i basically already lost it, whats the point in playing with nothing on the line?
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
December 13 2011 15:40 GMT
#611
I think people need to get over it. It was a game that didn't matter for him OR Nestea at that point. I can't blame him for wanting to get it over with.
LiquidDota Staff
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
December 13 2011 15:40 GMT
#612
I don't have anything against naniwa, but the sole fact that this got so much attention probably means that no other progamer will want to ever do this. So it's a good thing in the end I guess...
Common Sense - so rare that it's a super power
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6667 Posts
December 13 2011 15:41 GMT
#613
On December 14 2011 00:27 DeekZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:19 DNA.MPK wrote:
LOL Naniwa. A lot of players would have killed to be in that tournament, and he probe rushes?


He
was
already
eliminated
from
the
tournament
and
so
was
Nestea

+ Show Spoiler +
the game meant nothing herp derp


Yes the game meant exactly nothing... not like some people paid to watch them play or anything right? OH WAIT
people paid and stayed up late to watch these games and he basically shit on them..... completely unprofessional and entirely disrespectful to not only the fans but to Nestea as well.

Naniwa needs to grow a pair, suck it up, play and stop being such a little baby.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
fush
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada563 Posts
December 13 2011 15:41 GMT
#614
On December 14 2011 00:27 DeekZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:19 DNA.MPK wrote:
LOL Naniwa. A lot of players would have killed to be in that tournament, and he probe rushes?


He
was
already
eliminated
from
the
tournament
and
so
was
Nestea

+ Show Spoiler +
the game meant nothing herp derp



justify it all you want (and i agree, it was meaningless). the tournament structure was garbage, but it's not gom's fault that he went 0-3. in the end, he made a bone headed move with no consideration to paying fans, his team, and his sponsors. how hard would it have been to go in with the mentality of it being a showmatch for the fans, one of the last ones of the year? instead he shows his immaturity, and shows the world how not to be a professional by directly shoving a middle finger to everyone who was watching at the time with his probe rush. what did he think the aftermath was going to be?
Door_Stealer
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom20 Posts
December 13 2011 15:42 GMT
#615

What's the most angering is that Nestea practiced hard into the night to practice yesterday, even though it was his birthday.



Sad to read this
Umilard
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden38 Posts
December 13 2011 15:42 GMT
#616
So instead of blatantly loosing in a silly way they will be abit more smooth about it and do a poorly executed cheese instead?
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
December 13 2011 15:46 GMT
#617
On December 14 2011 00:27 DeekZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 00:19 DNA.MPK wrote:
LOL Naniwa. A lot of players would have killed to be in that tournament, and he probe rushes?


He
was
already
eliminated
from
the
tournament
and
so
was
Nestea

+ Show Spoiler +
the game meant nothing herp derp



I think you and a lot of people fail to notice Naniwa is being PAID to play out his four games... roughly $900 usd in fact, which is a larger prize pool than a lot of weekly tournaments.
source: http://www.gomtv.net/2011blizzardcup/
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 15:47:07
December 13 2011 15:46 GMT
#618
On December 14 2011 00:42 Umilard wrote:
So instead of blatantly loosing in a silly way they will be abit more smooth about it and do a poorly executed cheese instead?

yeh, 4 gate or proxy 2 gate would've been a better idea.



Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
December 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#619
Naniwa is really in deep shit now
BSOD
Chinchillin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States259 Posts
December 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#620
nani is such a disappointment
Leenocktopus! InNoVation!
Prev 1 29 30 31 32 33 44 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech148
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2126
Shuttle 353
Mini 120
Aegong 17
Dota 2
Pyrionflax164
Counter-Strike
fl0m1173
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4165
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi2600
FrodaN1207
Liquid`Hasu349
ToD227
C9.Mang0207
monkeys_forever146
ZombieGrub139
Mew2King52
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 31
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 35
• blackmanpl 28
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV445
Other Games
• imaqtpie1286
• Scarra818
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
13h 21m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
The PondCast
2 days
Online Event
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.