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Been Gone for a Year - What have i missed? (SC2)

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DeeeJ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 21:08:16
December 12 2011 19:22 GMT
#1
Well Guys, im back.... not like you know me though.


Played BW competitively for about 4-5 years at a mediocre level (topped out at B+ on iccup soon before SC2 Beta came out), when SC2 came out, feel into a depression that the best game ever made was dying .


Anyway, what have i missed in the patches? strategy? anything i need to know.
Starting in some random platinum division.

When i left SC2 a while ago, TvZ was all about reaper cheesy bullshit.

ZvP seems to be similar ( highly colossus based late game)

and ZvZ was a lot of Baneling/Ling Play / Fast tech to muta / or Hydra Infestor builds

Im a Zerg.



And.... Terran was overpowered as tits, how is the balance now?
and the updated strategies?

***Also - Is there anything new in the form of Chat Channels or anything similar?

Any iccup related things or just the original ladder system they set up?




*
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
December 12 2011 19:23 GMT
#2
Proof you were B+ on iccup
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 12 2011 19:26 GMT
#3
ZvP: Mutas are rising! Most people go mutas nowadays, if not: Roach/corruptor + relatively fast broodlords
ZvT: Baneling landmindes are very nice at the moment. Maybe terran will start to build a raven sometimes? Who knows... Mostly muta/ling/bling while terran goes for marine/tank and few thors or complete mech. Reactor hellion is the standard opening from then, zerg usually go for 15 hatch. 11/11 rax is kinda outdated, it only kills idra!
ZvZ: From what I see on streams its either ling/bling battles or roach vs roach/hydra vs roach/infestor vs roach/muta.
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
December 12 2011 19:28 GMT
#4
On December 13 2011 04:23 Pawsom wrote:
Proof you were B+ on iccup


as you can see, the community has grown by quite a few idiots unfriendly people

other than that, well nothing too major. bunch of tourneys, ever growing viewer counts, business as usual pretty much, tons of "IM DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE IM 11 YEARS OLD AND 1ST PLACE IN BRONZE AND WANT TO BECOME PRO" blogs.

HOTS unit previews are out from last blizzcon, some BW pro teams disbanded. thats probably the most significant things.
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
December 12 2011 19:29 GMT
#5
Well TvZ now is often Marine/Tank/Medi, or Mech, Also quite a few 2 Rax SCV all ins especially in the lower leagues. Mech is just a pain in the ass to play against if you ask me, The Terran just expands all over the place with PFs till they are maxed on Tanks/Thors/Hellions.

ZvP nothing has changed really, Except everyone FFEs now and most of the time its a 6gate followup or a 2 Robo Collus build.

ZvZ lots of Ling/Bling wars, 2 Base Mutas into third with the Mapcontrol they provide is quite common, I prefer the ol' Hydra/Roach approach to things. The Muta style is falling out of style from what I've seen recently its most likely a 10/10 Speedling all in, Bane war, or 15 Hatch into Roach/Festor/Hydra. But then again you have to watch out for the 6Pool Drone pull with 2 Spines.

Its pretty well balanced now as you don't have that Reaper bullshit but sometimes you do come across the 5 Rax Reaper build I believe is the name and its quite a pain to deal with.
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
December 12 2011 19:30 GMT
#6
On December 13 2011 04:28 MisterD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 04:23 Pawsom wrote:
Proof you were B+ on iccup


as you can see, the community has grown by quite a few idiots unfriendly people

other than that, well nothing too major. bunch of tourneys, ever growing viewer counts, business as usual pretty much, tons of "IM DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE IM 11 YEARS OLD AND 1ST PLACE IN BRONZE AND WANT TO BECOME PRO" blogs.

HOTS unit previews are out from last blizzcon, some BW pro teams disbanded. thats probably the most significant things.



Sorry, but the way he attempts to some-up a matchup in 3-4 words(that were hardly correct to begin with), and then asks for advice like it will be that simple, makes me really doubt he was ever B+ (which is really good, comparable to top masters)
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 12 2011 19:44 GMT
#7
When i left SC2 a while ago, TvZ was all about reaper cheesy bullshit.

ZvP seems to be similar ( highly colossus based late game)

and ZvZ was a lot of Baneling/Ling Play / Fast tech to muta / or Hydra Infestor builds

Im a Zerg.



And.... Terran was overpowered as tits, how is the balance now?


The reaper was nerfed into oblivion months and months ago, TvZ is generally considered the most exciting match up now; the standard is marine/tank/medivac against ling/bling/muta, into hive tech vs ghosts in the late game. I recommend the Leenock v Jjakji GSL Final to see this MU in action.

ZvP was still colossus based for a long time, but then the infestor was buffed and ling infestor became really pretty strong and protoss can no longer just turtle and deathball it. I don't even think there is a standard, there are a few new styles coming out and it's pretty cool. Check out Huk and Hero's PvZ, and probably Stephano for ZvP. At least I think it was him doing cool ZvP stuff...at IPL...anyway can't really think of any other ZvP specialists off the top of my head.

ZvZ I'm afraid I have absolutely no idea :D

As for balance it's looking pretty good. I don't think any race has a right to complain right now.

I'm not gonna list all the patch notes, I'm afraid you'll have to find them yourself. Well actually...SC2 should come up with a list of them when you get the balance patch.
Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
December 12 2011 19:51 GMT
#8
On December 13 2011 04:30 Pawsom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 04:28 MisterD wrote:
On December 13 2011 04:23 Pawsom wrote:
Proof you were B+ on iccup


as you can see, the community has grown by quite a few idiots unfriendly people

other than that, well nothing too major. bunch of tourneys, ever growing viewer counts, business as usual pretty much, tons of "IM DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE IM 11 YEARS OLD AND 1ST PLACE IN BRONZE AND WANT TO BECOME PRO" blogs.

HOTS unit previews are out from last blizzcon, some BW pro teams disbanded. thats probably the most significant things.



Sorry, but the way he attempts to some-up a matchup in 3-4 words(that were hardly correct to begin with), and then asks for advice like it will be that simple, makes me really doubt he was ever B+ (which is really good, comparable to top masters)


I use the rule of 3 my friend. Subtract 3 levels when someone states their past pgt or iccup self-over-speculated ranking.

C+ (at best)
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 12 2011 20:09 GMT
#9
On December 13 2011 04:30 Pawsom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 04:28 MisterD wrote:
On December 13 2011 04:23 Pawsom wrote:
Proof you were B+ on iccup


as you can see, the community has grown by quite a few idiots unfriendly people

other than that, well nothing too major. bunch of tourneys, ever growing viewer counts, business as usual pretty much, tons of "IM DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE IM 11 YEARS OLD AND 1ST PLACE IN BRONZE AND WANT TO BECOME PRO" blogs.

HOTS unit previews are out from last blizzcon, some BW pro teams disbanded. thats probably the most significant things.



Sorry, but the way he attempts to some-up a matchup in 3-4 words(that were hardly correct to begin with), and then asks for advice like it will be that simple, makes me really doubt he was ever B+ (which is really good, comparable to top masters)


I agree, either he really hates the game or he is lying... I don't see too many high level BW players defining matchups like that.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 12 2011 20:10 GMT
#10
On December 13 2011 04:51 Horrde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 04:30 Pawsom wrote:
On December 13 2011 04:28 MisterD wrote:
On December 13 2011 04:23 Pawsom wrote:
Proof you were B+ on iccup


as you can see, the community has grown by quite a few idiots unfriendly people

other than that, well nothing too major. bunch of tourneys, ever growing viewer counts, business as usual pretty much, tons of "IM DROPPING OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE IM 11 YEARS OLD AND 1ST PLACE IN BRONZE AND WANT TO BECOME PRO" blogs.

HOTS unit previews are out from last blizzcon, some BW pro teams disbanded. thats probably the most significant things.



Sorry, but the way he attempts to some-up a matchup in 3-4 words(that were hardly correct to begin with), and then asks for advice like it will be that simple, makes me really doubt he was ever B+ (which is really good, comparable to top masters)


I use the rule of 3 my friend. Subtract 3 levels when someone states their past pgt or iccup self-over-speculated ranking.

C+ (at best)


lol, that law applies to men saying how many women they have had sex with. And the opposite for women saying how many men they have had sex with.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
December 12 2011 20:14 GMT
#11
Did you ever get that retainer problem solved? Thats what I want to know.
Brood War forever!
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
December 12 2011 20:21 GMT
#12
I remember back when streams starting coming out, Chill would have to question everybody's claim of their rank on iccup. Few people were actually as high as their claimed ranks
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
December 12 2011 20:22 GMT
#13
E-sports...it was ruined...
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
December 12 2011 20:28 GMT
#14
We killed eSports, finally.
Thank God and gunrun.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
December 12 2011 20:29 GMT
#15
his iccup rank has absolutely NOTHING to do with the blog post so idk why its the focus of the comments
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 20:32:53
December 12 2011 20:32 GMT
#16
On December 13 2011 05:29 Rice wrote:
his iccup rank has absolutely NOTHING to do with the blog post so idk why its the focus of the comments



haha, yet my eyes immediately come to focus on that gigantic "B" when i first open the page and even now.
it honestly can't be helped, that's just how selective reading/writing works. you lack some sort of meat to what you're writing, and the reader makes up the rest.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
December 12 2011 20:39 GMT
#17
well I sure haven't missed you.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
DeeeJ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 20:54:04
December 12 2011 20:52 GMT
#18
Well guys, this blog pretty much became about my legitimate iccup rank than about SC2 Strategy... which is fine....

I got B+ on my account Meatpost[AoV] - Cant remember which season - record was like 120-70.

Unfortunately, that account was banned along with the proof. If you knew me, you know im not lying.

Also, got B (60-10) season after that, on G4i.MeyvN, which again was banned.

You guys can call me a liar, but if you knew me, you know im not lying



Had mediocre skills, but was way to BM to keep my accounts back in the day
DeeeJ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States65 Posts
December 12 2011 20:52 GMT
#19
On December 13 2011 05:14 Kralic wrote:
Did you ever get that retainer problem solved? Thats what I want to know.



Roommates parents paid $345 in full,


Was actually awesome, dog tore apart my old retainer and got a brand new one for free
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
December 12 2011 21:01 GMT
#20
I dont know if you kept up with the gsl's at all but you should check out nestea vs sc game 5 from the may gsl. Its a match i think everyone should watch cause its fucking amazing lol. Hope you get back into the flow sir <3
Greed leads to just about all losses.
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