EPTOn November 17 2011 22:19 Chill wrote:
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ahahhahahaha it's times like this where I love Chill
I'm a borderline genius lawyer - AMA - Page 9
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Subversive
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ahahhahahaha it's times like this where I love Chill | ||
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bonifaceviii
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On November 17 2011 22:19 Chill wrote: Thread renamed. Amazing, thank you Chill! | ||
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StarStruck
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
For Chill to suggest he's skirting any such border into genius territory is a direct assault on his intellect. This guy's the greatest living Future Lawyer the world may ever know. To think the gates into Geniusdom would be anything but a distant blur in his rearview would be insulting, were our words met with anything but the quaint bemusement of a zoo keeper watching the apes fling their shit to and fro. If the rest of you could stow your contempt for your intellectual superiors for a few moments, and accept that we dance like marionettes to the tune of his brilliance you'd realize that in doing so we too can become better future selves. I'll say one thing for certain: you wouldn't be so quick to underhandedly refer to him as "borderline" anything if you saw the striking figure he cuts in front of the mirror while wearing his father's work clothes. | ||
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getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
LOOOLLLLL. At least the thread title better matches the content now! | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On November 17 2011 22:19 Chill wrote: Thread renamed. I'm not a fan of your blog moderations (you're too harsh on innocent and cute girl blogs >_<) but I completely agree with your decision here. | ||
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talleyhooo
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On November 17 2011 18:02 RetFan wrote: Talleyhoo, I hope for your sake you aren't a basement nerd pretending to be a patent lawyer because that would truly be sad. - Firstly, I've never said I've only had two years of college under my belt. - Secondly, Contrary to what you believe, prima facie was in fact used correctly and using the term meant I could save two words. - Thirdly, you misuse the word counsel - Freehills is a firm of solicitors and not barristers - Fourthly, why would someone be your colleague in Freehills if you are patent attorney in the United States? You misuse the word colleague. LOL - Lastly, the fact that you obviously pay no attention to detail, invent things up that I've never said, invent the fact that "I berate a poster for using unnecessary legalese" and impliedly misunderstand what nominalisation means, not understand what counsel means, shows that you are probably not a lawyer at all. In fact, that's why its so silly for people to pretend to be someone they're not online, once they're shit has been taken apart, its quite humiliating. Hi again friend! Allow me to issue a rebuttal. We will have to agree to disagree regarding your usage of prima facie. Trust me, its out of place and reeks of you trying to shove big words down people's throats to make yourself seem smart. With respect to my use of the term "counsel" - I stated in my original reply that I am a US attorney. We refer to all attorneys as counsel. We do not distinguish between solicitors and barristers. Your attack here would be akin to me attacking you for "misspelling" the terms "favourite", etc. This is just a difference between our respective countries' dialects. Regarding my "misuse" of the term "colleague", I consider a patent attorney with whom I have worked for five years to be my colleague. The fact that he is in Australia does not change that we have worked closely together for such a long period of time. I would say my foreign counsel easily meets the dictionary definition of "A person with whom one works, esp. in a profession or business." Regarding your accusation that I am some nerd sitting my basement pretending to be something I am not... I would encourage you to take a quick look at my post history. I made a post probably 6+ months ago in a law school thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=254937#8 I guess maybe this is a long con? Or, perhaps, I am who I say I am? Quick question -- How is it that EVERYONE on here can be so wrong about you? I think the TL community is pretty united in concluding that you are a total douchebag. You have not accomplished shit in your life yet. It took me 7 years of school to get my law degree. I then had to pass two bar exams (state bar exam and patent bar exam). After that, I have worked as a patent attorney for 5.5 years. I make six figures. But hey, you don't see me on here being a dick and talking down to everyone (except, of course, you). I am no better than anyone else as a result of my choice of occupation. And I am very confident I would be completely useless on a desert island. Learn some humility; it will get you far in life. See what I just did there? I took your shit apart. Are you humiliated yet? P.S. You didn't answer whether you work at Freehills or not.  I assume from all your shit talk you must in one of the Big 6.EDIT: Added a link. | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
I hope my e-peen gets this big someday. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:10 talleyhooo wrote: Hi again friend! Allow me to issue a rebuttal. We will have to agree to disagree regarding your usage of prima facie. Trust me, its out of place and reeks of you trying to shove big words down people's throats to make yourself seem smart. With respect to my use of the term "counsel" - I stated in my original reply that I am a US attorney. We refer to all attorneys as counsel. We do not distinguish between solicitors and barristers. Your attack here would be akin to me attacking you for "misspelling" the terms "favourite", etc. This is just a difference between our respective countries' dialects. Regarding my "misuse" of the term "colleague", I consider a patent attorney with whom I have worked for five years to be my colleague. The fact that he is in Australia does not change that we have worked closely together for such a long period of time. I would say my foreign counsel easily meets the dictionary definition of "A person with whom one works, esp. in a profession or business." Regarding your accusation that I am some nerd sitting my basement pretending to be something I am not... I would encourage you to take a quick look at my post history. I made a post probably 6+ months ago in a law school thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=254937#8 I guess maybe this is a long con? Or, perhaps, I am who I say I am? Quick question -- How is it that EVERYONE on here can be so wrong about you? I think the TL community is pretty united in concluding that you are a total douchebag. You have not accomplished shit in your life yet. It took me 7 years of school to get my law degree. I then had to pass two bar exams (state bar exam and patent bar exam). After that, I have worked as a patent attorney for 5.5 years. I make six figures. But hey, you don't see me on here being a dick and talking down to everyone (except, of course, you). I am no better than anyone else as a result of my choice of occupation. And I am very confident I would be completely useless on a desert island. Learn some humility; it will get you far in life. See what I just did there? I took your shit apart. Are you humiliated yet? P.S. You didn't answer whether you work at Freehills or not. I assume from all your shit talk you must in one of the Big 6.EDIT: Added a link. Maybe my favorite post ever. | ||
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kakaman
United States1576 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:10 talleyhooo wrote: Hi again friend! Allow me to issue a rebuttal. We will have to agree to disagree regarding your usage of prima facie. Trust me, its out of place and reeks of you trying to shove big words down people's throats to make yourself seem smart. With respect to my use of the term "counsel" - I stated in my original reply that I am a US attorney. We refer to all attorneys as counsel. We do not distinguish between solicitors and barristers. Your attack here would be akin to me attacking you for "misspelling" the terms "favourite", etc. This is just a difference between our respective countries' dialects. Regarding my "misuse" of the term "colleague", I consider a patent attorney with whom I have worked for five years to be my colleague. The fact that he is in Australia does not change that we have worked closely together for such a long period of time. I would say my foreign counsel easily meets the dictionary definition of "A person with whom one works, esp. in a profession or business." Regarding your accusation that I am some nerd sitting my basement pretending to be something I am not... I would encourage you to take a quick look at my post history. I made a post probably 6+ months ago in a law school thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=254937#8 I guess maybe this is a long con? Or, perhaps, I am who I say I am? Quick question -- How is it that EVERYONE on here can be so wrong about you? I think the TL community is pretty united in concluding that you are a total douchebag. You have not accomplished shit in your life yet. It took me 7 years of school to get my law degree. I then had to pass two bar exams (state bar exam and patent bar exam). After that, I have worked as a patent attorney for 5.5 years. I make six figures. But hey, you don't see me on here being a dick and talking down to everyone (except, of course, you). I am no better than anyone else as a result of my choice of occupation. And I am very confident I would be completely useless on a desert island. Learn some humility; it will get you far in life. See what I just did there? I took your shit apart. Are you humiliated yet? P.S. You didn't answer whether you work at Freehills or not. I assume from all your shit talk you must in one of the Big 6.EDIT: Added a link. This must be the TL equivalent to marines stepping on baneling mines. | ||
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FractalsOnFire
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Impervious
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On November 16 2011 19:19 RetFan wrote: The point I was trying to get across is that lawyers learn a skill set which focuses upon decision making, analysing and applying logical facts and drawing conclusions with as much neutrality as possible. This is the job that lawyers are trained to do, much like engineers are trained to design things and doctors to treat medical illnesses. If lawyers did not exist, then there would not be a non-biased or uniform approach to solving disputes. I was ok with your opening post. I had hopes you were going to expand on things and that this was actually going to be an informative read. Until I read that line (the next sentence didn't help much either, but that's an entirely different story - individual laws may be non-biased, but every single judicial system in the world that I know of has inherent biases). Do you really believe that you have the best depth of understanding, and are trying to prove that based on your acceptance into a top school, exceptional grade scores, and experience working with top firms will force us to believe that it is a concrete, indisputable fact? If that was the case, how the fuck can you simplify the role of engineers as someone who designs things and doctors who treat medical illnesses? I really don't have time to finish writing a more in-depth reply to this (although I do believe that you deserve one), but every single one of those skills apply to all 3 professions, along with many others. Your profession is far from the only profession which requires extensive use of these skills in order to graduate, never mind being successful. If engineers who design the entire infrastructure we use on a daily basis didn't have skill sets "which focuses upon decision making, analysing and applying logical facts and drawing conclusions with as much neutrality as possible", I'd have lost all hope for humanity. And I wouldn't go to a doctor for treatment of medical illnesses who lacks any of those skills as well. If anything, I'd rather that engineers and doctors had stronger skills than lawyers, since people's safety and well-being is directly affected by said skills. What you have are skills that are desired in a lot of top professions. These skills aren't really something that can be taught, but they can be harnessed with the right education and further training. You've spent a few years honing these skills with legal studies, others go towards engineering, or science, or medicine, etc. Some don't hone these skills, and find their own path; I know that there used to be a chess grandmaster who was a hotdog vendor in NYC. I'd love to see your "depth of understanding" go up vs his in a game of chess, but I already have a good idea of what the outcome would be already. Basically, you need to take a step back and realize that the attitude you have is exactly the attitude that most people hate about lawyers. Yes, you may have a top 1% IQ, and incredible drive to be successful, but that does not make you any better than everyone else by default, and that sure as hell does not make your view a concrete fact. | ||
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Fuhrmaaj
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On November 17 2011 22:19 Chill wrote: Thread renamed. I think this move has prevented more bans than any other action on TL. Are you Chill from the future? | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:23 Dalguno wrote: I'm coming to find more and more that when someone says they're not trying to be pretentious, that's exactly what they're doing. I hope my e-peen gets this big someday. I'll have to re-work the way I think. I said before that I'm pretty self-conscious and listen to what others say. I made a previous post some time ago to the guy who wrote a blog about some stupid stereotypes of Koreans, that when the entire community is against you then there's a pretty good chance that you're very wrong about something. *sigh* So these are one of the few times I have taken a stance against the community, not trying to take the pedestal and be some saint among mongrels (no doubt some of you may think that), but because I could not understand the reasoning behind people attacking the OP. I haven't made anyone change their views, so something in my logic is flawed. I also said that I have an explicit hatred for people who are egotistical, so if the OP did seem that way to me I would immediately hop onto the bandwagon and join you guys berate the fool. Seeing the blog renamed (lol) and a series of wonderful posts in the past few pages I'm pretty sure I'm wrong now but I don't understand why. Like ok, I'm not getting to anyone, but I don't want to be an ignorant retard with flawed values or logic or w/e. I mean ffs am I an idiot for taking a stand on something I believe but in fact could be wrong? I just don't know anymore =P. Because I interpreted the OP as just some guy stating what he has accomplished so far as an undergrad. You guys could be giggling behind your screen at how unaware I am at my stupidity, but I'm seriously trying to agree with you guys because if there's this much opposition to the OP then fuck me I'm missing something aren't I? I give up, someone who is of superior intellect please enlighten me. =( | ||
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:43 Snuggles wrote: I'll have to re-work the way I think. I said before that I'm pretty self-conscious and listen to what others say. I made a previous post some time ago to the guy who wrote a blog about some stupid stereotypes of Koreans, that when the entire community is against you then there's a pretty good chance that you're very wrong about something. *sigh* So these are one of the few times I have taken a stance against the community, not trying to take the pedestal and be some saint among mongrels (no doubt some of you may think that), but because I could not understand the reasoning behind people attacking the OP. I haven't made anyone change their views, so something in my logic is flawed. I also said that I have an explicit hatred for people who are egotistical, so if the OP did seem that way to me I would immediately hop onto the bandwagon and join you guys berate the fool. Seeing the blog renamed (lol) and a series of wonderful posts in the past few pages I'm pretty sure I'm wrong now but I don't understand why. Like ok, I'm not getting to anyone, but I don't want to be an ignorant retard with flawed values or logic or w/e. I mean ffs am I an idiot for taking a stand on something I believe but in fact could be wrong? I just don't know anymore =P. Because I interpreted the OP as just some guy stating what he has accomplished so far as an undergrad. You guys could be giggling behind your screen at how unaware I am at my stupidity, but I'm seriously trying to agree with you guys because if there's this much opposition to the OP then fuck me I'm missing something aren't I? I give up, someone who is of superior intellect please enlighten me. =( It's all about anonymity. Any time you say you're something great on the internet, you're going to come across as a jerk. I could write something about how great I am, and while being completely untrue, could be really convincing, having a combination of time and anonymity. The OP isn't my problem, however. It's all of his replies. | ||
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See.Blue
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
Yes, it's rather morbid. A reasonable progression of debate, when it was derailed early like this one, was to concede a minor point then reorientate the argument towards the direction you intended. Instead, RetFan became even more insistent about his academic and intelligence. That's just very bad strategy. Sufficiently bad that I can't imagine anyone with education at that level would ever make. Leading me to conclude that he's almost certainly fabricating these "credentials." I will never understand why people pretend to be someone else online. If you are, why not pretend to be a girl instead of a lawyer? People like girls better. They even give you stuff if you are flirty enough. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
On November 18 2011 00:52 Dalguno wrote: It's all about anonymity. Any time you say you're something great on the internet, you're going to come across as a jerk. I could write something about how great I am, and while being completely untrue, could be really convincing, having a combination of time and anonymity. So basically the standard is to simply to never identify yourself with anything at all on the internet if you're going to make a statement like Retfan did? If that's just how it is then alright... I get that.. because I guess its just something that is going to happen (get virtual rocks thrown at you) regardless of how true or full of good will it may be, because its just as easy to bullshit whatever you claim. In real life this standard wouldn't work because you would immediately see whether or not this guy is actually a nice, true to his word guy or really a cocky egotistical bastard who has no job and goes to class with a suit and suspenders, correct? | ||
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lvatural
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But I don't think the strategy worked too well. Like another post earlier on, there is nothing gained from insulting your audience from the get-go. This guy is probably training to become a transactional attorney, doesn't appear he's dealt with a jury before. Anyhow, his strategy seems to have backfired. Lesson learned I guess. | ||
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