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Hi everyone :3
So a few people had asked me on the Bisu fanart thread for a larger copy of the image so they could print a poster. And I felt bad because the thought had never occured to me, and I had drawn it so small. But then that gave me an idea. I'd always wanted a poster of my favorite players, like the awesome ones they gave out at Bacchus '10, but for some inexplicable reason, they don't make them for sale (whyyyyy T_T). Well then, clearly, the solution would be to draw my own!
It's a little crazy and ambitious of me because it hasn't been long since I finished my last big project and school is getting rather hectic, but the great responses you guys gave have really put me in a motivated mood, so thank you!
Originally I was going to just work on this quietly and then reveal it when it was done, but I thought maybe people would be interested in seeing the step by step process, and also that it would keep me motivated if people yelled at me to update a little bit everyday 
So without further ado, I give you TBLS: A Very Slow Work in Progress.
Size: I went for 3000x2000, which should be 42x27 inches when printed. That ought to make a decent sized poster. And I'll make the original large size image available to anyone who wants to print out their own copy ^^ (or if enough people are interested, I could probably mass print a batch and send them out to whoever wants them).
Here is the outline sketch! I labeled it in case you can't tell who's who, but I hope it's obvious.
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11/14/11
Started working on The Dong's coloring. Wanted to do Bisu first, but I have an unfortunate habit of working from left to right :<
+ Show Spoiler +
edit: Going to have to restart and make the whole thing bigger. I'll resume working on this after this week ^^
 
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Couldn't really tell from the sketches but when I opened the spoiler...
WOW those 2 hours made a lot of difference
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those 2 hours, are nothing short of amazing productivity, also the dong in general looks like the bamf he is in these drawings...approved! :D
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You are crazy good haha.
Just out of curiosity you are working or plan to work in something related to drawing ?
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you are uhh... you are pretty good at this.
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Can't wait for the finished product; can already tell it's gonna be awesome.
Are you going to draw them in their uniforms? Wondering which uniform you're going to put on Jaedong, heh.
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On November 15 2011 02:40 Boblion wrote:
You are crazy good haha.
Just out of curiosity you are working or plan to work in something related to drawing ?
I wish, but sadly no. Parents were always the "you study hard grow up become doctor or engineer ok" kind of Asian parents, so I kind of had it drilled into me that any other career path would be impractical and destined for destitution. Otherwise I'd have loved to be a concept artist/character designer for some game company :<
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Beautiful stuff! 
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On November 15 2011 02:53 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 02:40 Boblion wrote:
You are crazy good haha.
Just out of curiosity you are working or plan to work in something related to drawing ? I wish, but sadly no. Parents were always the "you study hard grow up become doctor or engineer ok" kind of Asian parents, so I kind of had it drilled into me that any other career path would be impractical and destined for destitution. Otherwise I'd have loved to be a concept artist/character designer for some game company :<
Eh that's kind of sad =/
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Wow amazing. I cannot wait until it is done
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hnggggg so gooood. Can't wait for the finished product. New wallpaper incoming.
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On November 15 2011 03:17 garlicface wrote:
hnggggg so gooood. Can't wait for the finished product. New wallpaper incoming.
Amen to that!
I think the monthly 'post your desktop' thread will have a pleasant surprise soon.
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YEAH! I'm excited for this! Please keep up the awesome work Kiett! Btw I think you're totally talented!
Also, I think that I shall definitely get this printed out when you're done and stick it up in my room <3 I love me some Flash.
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Holy cow you're talented *-*
Definitely want to see more, please update this!
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oh man, this looks amazing. O_O can't wait to see it when it's done
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oh good that's awesome! can't wait to see the picture completed.
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oh man you are some kind of amazing
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So amazing, keep it up!
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I wish I had talent
You're awesome, please don't stop. I love the shading, it looks so lifelike and detailed.
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I'm looking forward to the final product :>
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This is already looking to be awesome :O I'd love to see more painting progress! :D
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Really looking forward to this! Will you also be drawing a background or will it just be black/white or something simple?
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can't do Bisu first otherwise there'd be no motivation to do the rest
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Awesome! Can't wait for this to finish!! <3
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Ahhh, this is so good. Can't believe how much a difference those two hours made. Even more amazing is that you have the patience to put that much effort in
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kiett, nice but, i think it would be more effective if it was more cramped together, less empty space, more tbls, to have maximum concentration of ownage that wants to "jump out" of the poster, making it the center of attention of anyone walking by it
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I'm really looking forward to seeing this when this is over. JD's coloring is sick.
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Size: I went for 3000x2000, which should be 42x27 inches when printed. That ought to make a decent sized poster.
Kiett, I really love this idea and appreciate the effort you are putting into to doing it I too will print it out, however before you get your hopes too high I should tell you that printing a photo on paper is not like seeing it on a screen. Typically you want at least 250-300 pixels per inch, which with your intended dimensions will only be 10 by 6.6 inches. Not too bad, but not the giant poster you are envisioning. Since it is a drawing and not a photo I don't know how that would impact the results, but I know I've been pretty disappointed when my DSLR (which only shoots 3000 by 2000) looked off on 11 by 8.5 premium photopaper (especially if I cropped the image to fit). There's also the option, I suppose, of using a vector program to try to increase the size of the picture (which I think works well with logos?), but I'm not sure if it'll work with your image.
Best,
edit: I tried a 640/640 drawing (jaedong being carried by an overlord lol) print on 4in / 6in paper... Which is 160 pixels per inch. It looks alright so you might be able to get away with more for a drawing than a photo. Regardless, if you find you have problems printing your image really big, keep in mind it might not be ink or other error, but error in resolution. Hope this is helpful to you..
edit2: printing a picture of a frog a 120 dpi is approaching the limit. Looking closely you can see the pixels, but from 2-3 feet away it is not very noticeable. So I would say a maximum for 3000/2000 is 25 inch by 16 inch, if you don't mind that when you stand very close to the poster you will see problems. Keep in mind my frog cartoon picture looks very good on the computer monitor at a larger size than it does on paper... This should give you some sense anyhow of the perils of digital printing (believe me I've printed big pictures and done a million things trying to figure out the problem before finally realising it was the resolution after wasting tonnes of ink).
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On November 20 2011 00:02 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +Size: I went for 3000x2000, which should be 42x27 inches when printed. That ought to make a decent sized poster. Kiett, I really love this idea and appreciate the effort you are putting into to doing it I too will print it out, however before you get your hopes too high I should tell you that printing a photo on paper is not like seeing it on a screen. Typically you want at least 250-300 pixels per inch, which with your intended dimensions will only be 10 by 6.6 inches. Not too bad, but not the giant poster you are envisioning. Since it is a drawing and not a photo I don't know how that would impact the results, but I know I've been pretty disappointed when my DSLR (which only shoots 3000 by 2000) looked off on 11 by 8.5 premium photopaper (especially if I cropped the image to fit). There's also the option, I suppose, of using a vector program to try to increase the size of the picture (which I think works well with logos?), but I'm not sure if it'll work with your image. Best, edit: I tried a 640/640 drawing (jaedong being carried by an overlord lol) print on 4in / 6in paper... Which is 160 pixels per inch. It looks alright so you might be able to get away with more for a drawing than a photo. Regardless, if you find you have problems printing your image really big, keep in mind it might not be ink or other error, but error in resolution. Hope this is helpful to you.. edit2: printing a picture of a frog a 120 dpi is approaching the limit. Looking closely you can see the pixels, but from 2-3 feet away it is not very noticeable. So I would say a maximum for 3000/2000 is 25 inch by 16 inch, if you don't mind that when you stand very close to the poster you will see problems. Keep in mind my frog cartoon picture looks very good on the computer monitor at a larger size than it does on paper... This should give you some sense anyhow of the perils of digital printing (believe me I've printed big pictures and done a million things trying to figure out the problem before finally realising it was the resolution after wasting tonnes of ink).
Oh, really??? DDD:
I didn't realize that it'd need to be 250-300 DPI to look good... I kind of just went with the default option on photoshop, which I now realize is only 72 DPI T__T
Thanks for letting me know now, before I got too far lol. So for a 2ft by 3ft poster, what size would you suggest?
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This would look sick with them wearing their team uniforms on a white background
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On November 20 2011 03:15 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 00:02 Chef wrote:Size: I went for 3000x2000, which should be 42x27 inches when printed. That ought to make a decent sized poster. Kiett, I really love this idea and appreciate the effort you are putting into to doing it I too will print it out, however before you get your hopes too high I should tell you that printing a photo on paper is not like seeing it on a screen. Typically you want at least 250-300 pixels per inch, which with your intended dimensions will only be 10 by 6.6 inches. Not too bad, but not the giant poster you are envisioning. Since it is a drawing and not a photo I don't know how that would impact the results, but I know I've been pretty disappointed when my DSLR (which only shoots 3000 by 2000) looked off on 11 by 8.5 premium photopaper (especially if I cropped the image to fit). There's also the option, I suppose, of using a vector program to try to increase the size of the picture (which I think works well with logos?), but I'm not sure if it'll work with your image. Best, edit: I tried a 640/640 drawing (jaedong being carried by an overlord lol) print on 4in / 6in paper... Which is 160 pixels per inch. It looks alright so you might be able to get away with more for a drawing than a photo. Regardless, if you find you have problems printing your image really big, keep in mind it might not be ink or other error, but error in resolution. Hope this is helpful to you.. edit2: printing a picture of a frog a 120 dpi is approaching the limit. Looking closely you can see the pixels, but from 2-3 feet away it is not very noticeable. So I would say a maximum for 3000/2000 is 25 inch by 16 inch, if you don't mind that when you stand very close to the poster you will see problems. Keep in mind my frog cartoon picture looks very good on the computer monitor at a larger size than it does on paper... This should give you some sense anyhow of the perils of digital printing (believe me I've printed big pictures and done a million things trying to figure out the problem before finally realising it was the resolution after wasting tonnes of ink). Oh, really??? DDD: I didn't realize that it'd need to be 250-300 DPI to look good... I kind of just went with the default option on photoshop, which I now realize is only 72 DPI T__T Thanks for letting me know now, before I got too far lol. So for a 2ft by 3ft poster, what size would you suggest?
The safe side is 300 dpi. 300 x 36 = 10800 by 7200. You could get away with less probably as you'll see in my edits, but 300 dpi is what I've read is recommended for 'professional quality' prints. Keep in mind I am no expert, but it's been my experience that when you start to print with lower dpi, the pictures do not look at sharp. In some things it is not very important, in others it is critical.
I'm not sure how much it matters for you (in terms of work) if you have more pixels.. My printer is capable of 600 dpi which may be even better, but there is probably a limit to the human eye, you know? If it is not difficult at all to draw on a huge image (as in your tools don't care) then you could go even more than what I said if you want to be super safe. Maybe there is someone else on this forum with more experience than I in printing posters who can verify what I'm saying.
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it's just rule of thumb for computer artwork, if you want to print it then use 300dpi. which is why programs like illustrator have it default set to 300
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keep at it!
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On December 24 2011 19:11 superarmy wrote:
Any progress?
Unfortunately, being informed that I'd have to restart this at a new size kind of ruined my motivation to work on it, haha. That, and my computer broke down on me on my flight home from Korea, so I won't be able to work on anything that requires Photoshop until it gets fixed. Possibly in January when I get back to school, I'll take this up again. My apologies :<
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i'm really looking forward to the completion of this <3 omgomg jaedong
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On December 25 2011 08:16 Kiett wrote:Unfortunately, being informed that I'd have to restart this at a new size kind of ruined my motivation to work on it, haha. That, and my computer broke down on me on my flight home from Korea, so I won't be able to work on anything that requires Photoshop until it gets fixed. Possibly in January when I get back to school, I'll take this up again. My apologies :<
Fair enough! We all eagerly await your return, and its completion, thank you very much!
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