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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 13 2011 03:28 GMT
#1
I just played a ZvZ and crushed him, he didn't "gg" and after the game I chatted him and said gg
Then he said hes been on a losing streak and lost becuase he did stupid shit and that he didn't gg becuase he was so mad when he quit.
Is anyone else like this ? I know for sure I am, even when I'm absolutely furious and someone says to "gg" to me in chat I reply with another gg and tell them to let me rage in peace ^^
That was alot of fucking ggs, holy shit o.O
And another question just thrown in there; what do you do when you are mad at *insert game here* to calm down ?


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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 03:41:34
November 13 2011 03:41 GMT
#2
Why would you message him with gg? Are you trying to provoke him to flame you or something? You should never message someone after a game with "gg", its just rude its because he's mad.

No I don't gg when I lose except on the rare occasion but I never offensive gg or message them gg after I win just mean and you shouldn't do it...

As for when I get mad at xxx game here I just go to the next game.
When I think of something else, something will go here
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 13 2011 03:44 GMT
#3
Really ?
IMO it's not BM/provoking to send a gg after the game, if you do it before he leaves then I would agree with you.
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
November 13 2011 03:44 GMT
#4
I don't really see the big deal over people not gging. I understand to show respect blah blah. In a tournament game sure, But ladder its doesn't matter I gg sometimes but I never send someone a gg message if they just leave. I feel its more bm to offensive gg someone than to not gg at all, as blade said its just rude, and flame bait.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 13 2011 03:46 GMT
#5
If he leaves without a gg

and you pm him and you say gg

that makes you the person to BM here.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36387 Posts
November 13 2011 03:47 GMT
#6
I would say if you win and he doesn't GG, going after and messaging him about it is pretty BM. You know he's angry, and you saying gg just rubs it in.
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 13 2011 03:48 GMT
#7
The only time I message someone with a gg after the game is if

A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back
B) They offensive gg and I win, or they cheese and I win.

Having said this, offensive gg is BM and I like rubbing it in their face. Cheese pisses me off but I completely understand it as a viable strat on ladder, it just feels so good holding it off.

Your post game gg doesn't fall into either of these categories. I'd just assume you were a dick if you msg'd me gg after the game (I acknowledge that I am a dick when I gg someone post game when they fail at their cheese.)
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
November 13 2011 03:52 GMT
#8
On November 13 2011 12:44 achristes wrote:
Really ?
IMO it's not BM/provoking to send a gg after the game, if you do it before he leaves then I would agree with you.


it's going to piss most people off

so if you don't want to piss people off avoid doing that
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
November 13 2011 03:52 GMT
#9
Don't get so hung up over it. We all have crappy games where we just don't feel like talking and want to be alone. I'm just surprised he didn't shoot some profanities back at you for gg'ing afterwards. (I might have done that lol)

Oh wait it's EU server where people are nice

BTW I now play on KR and in Gold, maybe 1/10 people say GG. Granted, small sample size, but most games end with him(/her? XD) leaving.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 13 2011 04:03 GMT
#10
On November 13 2011 12:46 Kipsate wrote:
If he leaves without a gg

and you pm him and you say gg

that makes you the person to BM here.


On November 13 2011 12:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I would say if you win and he doesn't GG, going after and messaging him about it is pretty BM. You know he's angry, and you saying gg just rubs it in.


agreed with these fine gentlemen
i wouldnt like it if that happened to me, not that i dont gg
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36387 Posts
November 13 2011 04:18 GMT
#11
On November 13 2011 12:48 Risen wrote:
The only time I message someone with a gg after the game is if

A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back
B) They offensive gg and I win, or they cheese and I win.

Having said this, offensive gg is BM and I like rubbing it in their face. Cheese pisses me off but I completely understand it as a viable strat on ladder, it just feels so good holding it off.

Your post game gg doesn't fall into either of these categories. I'd just assume you were a dick if you msg'd me gg after the game (I acknowledge that I am a dick when I gg someone post game when they fail at their cheese.)

Agreed, the only time I ever do it is if they said something BM in the game... it's basically taunting your opponent.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
November 13 2011 04:35 GMT
#12
On November 13 2011 13:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
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On November 13 2011 12:48 Risen wrote:
The only time I message someone with a gg after the game is if

A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back
B) They offensive gg and I win, or they cheese and I win.

Having said this, offensive gg is BM and I like rubbing it in their face. Cheese pisses me off but I completely understand it as a viable strat on ladder, it just feels so good holding it off.

Your post game gg doesn't fall into either of these categories. I'd just assume you were a dick if you msg'd me gg after the game (I acknowledge that I am a dick when I gg someone post game when they fail at their cheese.)

Agreed, the only time I ever do it is if they said something BM in the game... it's basically taunting your opponent.


I thought you taunt your opponents by appearing mysteriously in all their photos?
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KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
November 13 2011 04:41 GMT
#13
On November 13 2011 12:52 Mobius_1 wrote:
Don't get so hung up over it. We all have crappy games where we just don't feel like talking and want to be alone. I'm just surprised he didn't shoot some profanities back at you for gg'ing afterwards. (I might have done that lol)

Oh wait it's EU server where people are nice

BTW I now play on KR and in Gold, maybe 1/10 people say GG. Granted, small sample size, but most games end with him(/her? XD) leaving.

dont start that na eu stuff... I get bm'ed my fair share at eu gm lol =_= and a bunch of people I play on KR gg.

And yeah don't msg people gg lol >_> that's really rude --
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
November 13 2011 05:25 GMT
#14
I'll never gg an opponent after they leave a game. I personally consider it bm. not terribly bm but still bm
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iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 05:41:42
November 13 2011 05:41 GMT
#15
On November 13 2011 12:48 Risen wrote:
A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back



I do this sometimes but i say "wp" instead. I of course don't mean to BM and I do find that saying "wp" isn't as offensive as "gg" cos sometimes the player will respond to me with "you too" or "wp" as well.
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 13 2011 05:47 GMT
#16
On November 13 2011 12:44 achristes wrote:
Really ?
IMO it's not BM/provoking to send a gg after the game, if you do it before he leaves then I would agree with you.


It is as everyone above me has agreed with me on
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 06:09:36
November 13 2011 06:08 GMT
#17
A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back
B) They offensive gg and I win, or they cheese and I win.

When I gg after the game in chat I try to offer a détente like you had really good micro/macro or next time just do this and you'll be me.

But yeah, no, undoubtedly bm to message people that left after the game saying gg. You're not doing it to be manner, you're doing it to remind them who won. Ask yourself the next time you do it why you're doing it.

edit: I also almost always graciously type well played if I gg in a chat afterwards.
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 13 2011 06:42 GMT
#18
Wow, if I'm really frustrated about a game I just left without GG, and the other persons messages me and says GG I don't have any problems with that.People are different I guess...
And this wasn't a post to "brag" about me being BM towards the guy, it was kindof just asking if this ever happens to you.

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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 13 2011 06:47 GMT
#19
only time i msg gg someone is if it's actually a good game, he says gg and leaves

i acknowledge his gg with a msg gg
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 13 2011 06:47 GMT
#20
On November 13 2011 15:42 achristes wrote:
Wow, if I'm really frustrated about a game I just left without GG, and the other persons messages me and says GG I don't have any problems with that.People are different I guess...
And this wasn't a post to "brag" about me being BM towards the guy, it was kindof just asking if this ever happens to you.

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Would you GG after someone chases you after the game to say good game?
I typically wouldn't. Then again, I usually don't say "thank you" if someone says "you're welcome" per-emptively.
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achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
November 13 2011 07:08 GMT
#21
If I didn't GG because I was frustrated when I left and he GG'd me after the game I would tell him that I was just so mad/frustrated etc that GGing wasn't the first thought that came to mind before I left (IE, I would not be mad at him for GGing after the game).

Then again, I usually don't say "thank you" if someone says "you're welcome" per-emptively.

Haha, that was a nice one
I look at it more like a "reminder" that I should GG after every game (according to manner, that is), not as if they are GGing for me.

IMO there's a difference between aggro-gg ingame and aggro-gg after the game, just my opinion though.
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shucklesors
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore1176 Posts
November 13 2011 07:21 GMT
#22
Hmmm.. generally the loser's GG is commonly the ONLY chat in the entire game except for some 'glhf' exchange at the start for me..
I think it's a cultural difference though. Asians don't like to talk more than they need to, usually. We for sure as hell won't chat after the game like 'GG bro you forgot to say it'. When people do that to me after a game, especially one that I lost, I'm compelled to just reply very one-word answers that piss them off greatly, then wait for them to talk a whole chunk of lines then reply another one-word answer that pisses them. And those type of people are NEVER Asian.
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
November 13 2011 07:36 GMT
#23
Question: Why do people feel the need to type gg to someone, when he leaves without gg'ing? There's obv a reason why he didnt. He is most likely mad, but you just feel that it's very important to say gg to him? I dont get the logic.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
November 13 2011 07:40 GMT
#24
On November 13 2011 12:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I would say if you win and he doesn't GG, going after and messaging him about it is pretty BM. You know he's angry, and you saying gg just rubs it in.


That's the accepted consensus, but when people message me and say gg after I raged out of the game, I'm actually not angry at them. In a way they are saying that they thought I played well and they didn't win easily.
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
November 13 2011 07:46 GMT
#25
GG or no GG, does not matter on ladder.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
November 13 2011 07:59 GMT
#26
On November 13 2011 15:08 Probe1 wrote:
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A) they gg'd and left before I could gg back
B) They offensive gg and I win, or they cheese and I win.

When I gg after the game in chat I try to offer a détente like you had really good micro/macro or next time just do this and you'll be me.

But yeah, no, undoubtedly bm to message people that left after the game saying gg. You're not doing it to be manner, you're doing it to remind them who won. Ask yourself the next time you do it why you're doing it.

edit: I also almost always graciously type well played if I gg in a chat afterwards.

I know you only have good intentions and depending on the way it's delivered, sometimes I might feel ok about someone giving me advice post game - but generally if I'm already irritated the last thing I want is someone giving me advice about what I can do better, even friends.
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trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
November 13 2011 08:30 GMT
#27
I actually don't mind this at all, even when I didn't gg. Usually I feel bad for not gg'ing like 10 seconds after I quit, so I get the chance to say it and talk about the game when ive calmed down.
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
November 13 2011 09:18 GMT
#28
On November 13 2011 12:41 blade55555 wrote:
Why would you message him with gg? Are you trying to provoke him to flame you or something? You should never message someone after a game with "gg", its just rude its because he's mad.

No I don't gg when I lose except on the rare occasion but I never offensive gg or message them gg after I win just mean and you shouldn't do it...

As for when I get mad at xxx game here I just go to the next game.


I agree with this. when people gg me after the game i just ask them why i think i want to hear it now when i left the game...

It's really annoying.

That being said, i just block communication so they don't continue telling me how bad i am or how to improve
RBKeys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
November 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#29
I think it also depends on what league you're in.

I'm in platinum and I know that my games, even the ones I win, are crap; therefore, I don't feel like the game I've played has been a particularly good one. This of course has it's exceptions (e.g., if I get straight up manhandled by something other than cheese).

If someone is willing to say gg to me, though, I always try and acknowledge it.
Thanks for the break :D
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 18:13:30
November 18 2011 18:13 GMT
#30
There should be an official weekly "To GG or not to GG, that is the question" debate thread IMO.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
November 18 2011 19:44 GMT
#31
On November 13 2011 12:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I would say if you win and he doesn't GG, going after and messaging him about it is pretty BM. You know he's angry, and you saying gg just rubs it in.


I find it annoying that just because someone doesn't say 'gg' people assume he's angry.

:/
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
November 18 2011 19:48 GMT
#32
On November 13 2011 16:46 Black[CAT] wrote:
GG or no GG, does not matter on ladder.


That's sort of my thoughts. I don't think it's inherently BM not to GG on the ladder. It's a nice gesture, but it's crazy to act like this is some sort of holy law. Obviously I think it's a very different story for pro players in tournaments however.

In fact I would rather that someone just quites instead of telling me why my race is OP while he lifts his buildings and flys around the map for 5 minutes....
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Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
November 18 2011 20:02 GMT
#33
Yeah when i'm mad I try not to BM and just leave the game.

It's really frustrating sometimes when they type GG in the chat especially when they did an all-in I couldn't scout even though I sacrificed two overlords (I'm looking at you protoss). Sometimes I BM when they do this bs but I quickly apologize in chat after.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 18 2011 20:22 GMT
#34
On November 13 2011 12:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I would say if you win and he doesn't GG, going after and messaging him about it is pretty BM. You know he's angry, and you saying gg just rubs it in.

I must be BM every single game!! /sarcasm
I honestly think that some people leave due to frustration/resignation and don't remember to gg, in which case messaging them would be acceptable.
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Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
November 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#35
Are you serious? "Hey... Just wanted to remind you that you forgot to gg me last game in case you forgot!"
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
November 18 2011 20:43 GMT
#36
On November 13 2011 12:28 achristes wrote:
I just played a ZvZ and crushed him, he didn't "gg" and after the game I chatted him and said gg


That's really BM, don't do that. Or do it, but don't tell TL that you do, and then call others BM.
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