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Here is what I miss when watching the GSL:

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jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 15:43:46
November 09 2011 11:16 GMT
#1
The GSL is awesome, and i have been a subscriber for all events (except Team Ace Invitational) since Open Season 1. But 3 things are still missing:

1) First person footage
I want to see these guys play, not to just move their armies around. I am actually baffled why they don't include it. It shouldn't be that hard to implement, right?

2) League Intros featuring the players
A big part of the hype i had for the old BW leagues was because of their intros which were not only awesome, but also featured the players. Gom's intros might not be good, but i can live with that. But I need the best 8 players from the last season to appear in them. I know this is probably not possible now due to the tight schedule, But in the meantime they could at least take 2-3 of the good players of each race and feature them in a intro that runs for 3-4 months. The faces are so important since you barely see them during the games.

3) Commercials
The pauses without commercials really bug me. I would be content to watch the Korean commercials rather than have a silent pause. Commercials are a (albeit small) party why i like to watch the NFL stream. They just add to the flavor of the program. And to be perfectly clear: I am fine with paying AND watching commercials at the same time.

But i probably should have posted that to /r/firstworldproblems
And despite the stuff missing, I will still watch the GSL

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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:32:08
November 09 2011 11:31 GMT
#2
mmm. integration of the first person view (bw style) would be a welcome addition as you mentioned.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 09 2011 11:48 GMT
#3
First person footage would be nice, like BW. Plus with the spectator feature, easy peasy.

Commercials... They aren't that great. Just Korean commercials.

But if they had commercials on a ticketed stream, other people would be unhappy.

I wonder if the KR stream has commercials?
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 11:58:32
November 09 2011 11:56 GMT
#4
What I miss when watching GSL: 4 hours of sleep. But I did the same for BW and loved it <3

I do miss the korean commercials too. I always had fun watching those. Titty Sambo anyone?
And the random music videos. Last week, while browsing youtube for korean pop music, I realized I knew most of the musics because of pauses between game back in Broodwar. But I think this is mostly konadora's fault.

And yeah, First Person View is always nice :D
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
November 09 2011 12:01 GMT
#5
On November 09 2011 20:48 mizU wrote:
But if they had commercials on a ticketed stream, other people would be unhappy.

Why? There would still be the free stream if they don't want to pay. Also Vods also have commercials. I am really freaked out by the silent pauses. If not commercials, they should show clips from something else. The silence just kills the flow.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 09 2011 12:03 GMT
#6
FP stream and a better intro is definitely a good thing to add. Wonder why they haven't already implemented it.

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mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
November 09 2011 12:28 GMT
#7
On November 09 2011 21:01 jacen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 20:48 mizU wrote:
But if they had commercials on a ticketed stream, other people would be unhappy.

Why? There would still be the free stream if they don't want to pay. Also Vods also have commercials. I am really freaked out by the silent pauses. If not commercials, they should show clips from something else. The silence just kills the flow.


So pay for commercials, but if you don't want commercials watch the free stream?
Doesn't make sense.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 12:37:57
November 09 2011 12:36 GMT
#8
I actually kinda agree about the commercials. Since I live in USA seening the koreans commercials is a funny novelty. And i remember watching BW on OGN and MBC and everyone quoting some korean word over and over like its some kind of inside joke meme for weeks. Like that one ice cream commercial that didnt make sense and said something like SAMBO

Definitely needs more dramatic camera zooms on players during matches (and switches to FP view).
A man is what he thinks about all day long.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
November 09 2011 12:40 GMT
#9
On November 09 2011 21:28 mizU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2011 21:01 jacen wrote:
On November 09 2011 20:48 mizU wrote:
But if they had commercials on a ticketed stream, other people would be unhappy.

Why? There would still be the free stream if they don't want to pay. Also Vods also have commercials. I am really freaked out by the silent pauses. If not commercials, they should show clips from something else. The silence just kills the flow.


So pay for commercials, but if you don't want commercials watch the free stream?
Doesn't make sense.

I mean watch the free stream to not have to pay. Mixing 2 streams (one with and one without commercials) is probably not feasable
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
November 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#10
On November 09 2011 20:16 jacen wrote:
2) League Intros featuring the players
A big part of the hype i had for the old BW leagues was because of their intros which were not only awesome, but also featured the players. Gom's intros might not be good, but i can live with that. But I need the best 8 players from the last season to appear in them. I know this is probably not possible now due to the tight schedule, But in the meantime they could at least take 2-3 of the good players of each race and feature them in a intro that runs for 3-4 months. The faces are so important since you barely see them during the games.


exactly what i miss too. like artosis said they are doing it because thats the only way to have so many players playing sc2 ( no salarys...). but i hope they will change it up in the future
FTD
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 12:49:16
November 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#11
I really loved the intros in the OSL and MSL etc and still get chills to this day when I watch them. I think having an intro with players like Nestea, Mvp, MC, HuK etc would be really cool especially something like this:

catid
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 12:52:06
November 09 2011 12:51 GMT
#12
I miss those doom zooms on the players' faces, especially the ones that made no sense
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
November 09 2011 12:56 GMT
#13
Well, personally I wouldn't mind if they had commercials in between breaks, and used revenue from commercials to IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE STREAM.
Logic is Overrated
zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
November 09 2011 15:17 GMT
#14
Yeah, I really miss not having any sort of footage of the players while they're playing, I also wouldn't mind any sort of commercial during their break, preferably a music video or something to tide you over until the next game. Something else that could be really neat could be highlights of the previous round (i.e. in between ro16 games show highlights from the ro32).

And your point on league intros is definitely my favorite. GOMTV definitely has enough money to be able to afford such a production, and it would be awesome to see. It would hype the games up so much more for me, even if none of the players in the intro are playing it still gets you more into it.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
November 09 2011 15:28 GMT
#15
I miss being able to watch GomTV to see more than TvT.

Kind of a joke but tbh I actually did stop watching it a few seasons ago for that reason v_v
d9mmdi
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 16:52:43
November 09 2011 16:51 GMT
#16
Really nice ideas, OP. I would also like the top 8 players to be presented as some kind of Elite. Maybe Code S should be smaller alltogether.
Also i think the seasons follow each other too closely. In the beginning you were looking really forward to it. Nowadays you kinda look forward to a break. Rare things are just more epic, and in the downtime they can do GSTLs and AOLs and whatnot.
Also i would be interesting in a tournament phase where we really find out who is the best, a small number of small groups which Bo3 maybe even with rematches. You may argue rightfully that for something like the GSL its important that each match feels really important but it wuold be ok if only the top players would play cause everybody like to see lots of their games.
At least id like to see how it would out cause i always feel success depends a bit too much on preparation/day-to-day shape and cheeses.
Some korean commercials i would also enjoy them cause it helps immerging in the culture.
You gotta step over dead bodies - Momma Plott
Zeddicus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States239 Posts
November 09 2011 17:19 GMT
#17
I miss John and Artosis interviews the most out of anything. Those were the best. If they were worried about PoopFeast420 asking more questions--That was hilarious! Or just don't say the names. ♥ Artosis ♥ John ♥
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
November 09 2011 17:31 GMT
#18
I'm really big on showing faces. We need to give a face to our stars. I know like, nesteas face in my head, and i know like marinekings, idras, and incontrols. But alot of the koreans, I don't know. But BW, shit, i know storks, bisus, flashs, kal, jangbis, fantasys, jaedongs. I know there faces perfectly in my head. But we really need intros with players. These motherfuckers are badass, they need badass intros.
Flash Fan!
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
November 09 2011 18:39 GMT
#19
For the intros, they could use the 8-12 best ranked players, regardless if they are in code S or A. I don't think that would upset anyone and if they make new Intros every 4 months, it's reasonable accurate.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 09 2011 18:54 GMT
#20
I agree with all of what the OP is saying, but first there needs to be a bigger focus on the team league and fewer starleagues. Winning three in a year just feels weird. The major wins are too oversaturated. It seems to only mean something if you win multiple times.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 09 2011 18:57 GMT
#21
I think I agree with pretty much all of this, and with the recently introduced playback feature (at least in Code A) it looks like they're moving in the right direction
memes are a dish best served dank
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
November 09 2011 22:20 GMT
#22
On November 10 2011 03:57 marttorn wrote:
And with the recently introduced playback feature (at least in Code A)

What is this. Did i miss something?
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 13 2011 13:51 GMT
#23
Agree with all of OP's points, adding that we NEED doomzooms.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 13 2011 13:51 GMT
#24
On November 10 2011 07:20 jacen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 03:57 marttorn wrote:
And with the recently introduced playback feature (at least in Code A)

What is this. Did i miss something?

They're doing a replay analysis after the game.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 13 2011 15:16 GMT
#25
Oh. They have first person cameras. Only when you watch live though. T.T
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 13 2011 15:21 GMT
#26
First person is always nice. :D
Dear Sixsmith...
TheKwas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Iceland372 Posts
December 13 2011 15:35 GMT
#27
Somewhat irrelevant, but at the last GSL final, they had 3 screens: 2 for the player's screen and the biggest for the observer's screen. I found myself watching Jjakji's screen just as often as the obs screen.
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
December 13 2011 16:36 GMT
#28
On December 14 2011 00:16 mizU wrote:
Oh. They have first person cameras. Only when you watch live though. T.T

Maybe they only have 1st person cameras on the Korean stream? Because I never saw one on the english stream.
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
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