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Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 10 2011 07:50 GMT
#221
So the plot thickens!
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w.s
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden850 Posts
November 10 2011 07:54 GMT
#222
Wow.. jail time is just..
Can't believe Yjoon said he'd forgive GUS
ProLagger
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines30 Posts
November 10 2011 08:08 GMT
#223
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.



So you're the guy who made the brackets! You want to explain what happened with the brackets? . First question, why were there no azk players who went with each other, and why Enderr was placed with mc and mkp on the same bracket. Please answer
If life gets you down, QQ.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
November 10 2011 08:57 GMT
#224
Gus is the guy who should be on Jail. Force him to pay what he owes.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
AtreSamus
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden142 Posts
November 10 2011 10:01 GMT
#225
As effed up this is, as sad as this is, disgusting and terrible, if Amanda signed for those tickets in her own name, with no other form of signed agreement with someone else that they will reimburse the money etc. then I cant see how this will end up well for her.

What country, court or laws, will put aside the fact that HER name is on it, and go on her spoken word good faith agreement with someone that seems to be worming himself like a snake...

Its sad for her personally and for the entire e-sports scene. We cant really blame the sponsors who must feel a bit robbed aswell, for thinking twice about putting money and their own names/rep into events again...

Amanda, I hope things works out for you. I really do. You seem to be a kind person wanting to help out and work for the good of esports. You shouldnt have signed it on your own name. Regardless if we wanna belive the best in others and that they'll hold true to agreements, you gotto make sure you got your back covered.
Im as wide as a Mothership. I even cloak children and small objects when I move around.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
November 10 2011 10:06 GMT
#226
It amazes me that this guy was so much of a douche for so long and people put up with it. I guess it was in the name of trying to grow ESPORTS and the SEA people, but still...

I hope they nail this ass to the wall for everything.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
avoiderdragon
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines14 Posts
November 10 2011 10:45 GMT
#227
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 17:08 ProLagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.



So you're the guy who made the brackets! You want to explain what happened with the brackets? . First question, why were there no azk players who went with each other, and why Enderr was placed with mc and mkp on the same bracket. Please answer


I updated them in the event, but I did not create them. I'm only a writer.



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EDIT3: So after looking at the brackets after the group stages had been played out, I noticed they were using a pretty standard format. Seed #1 from Group A plays Seed #2 from Group H. Seed #1 from Group B plays Seed #2 from Group G. Seed #1 from Group C plays Seed #2 from Group F. And so forth. But then I refreshed and the brackets had been changed.

+ Show Spoiler [Original Brackets] +
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+ Show Spoiler [Adjusted Brackets] +
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EDIT4: I'm told by someone at the event that the brackets were re-generated for some reason by pulling names out of a hat. Mystery solved!


That was my fault. I had seen a Ro16 bracket somewhere that seemed legit when I woke up for day 2, so I put it in. When I got back to the venue, the implored me to remove them because someone (most likely oGsTheWind) demanded that they draw lots to determine the bracket. Hence, the second one. Honest mistake on my part.
I'm a triple attack player.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
November 10 2011 11:19 GMT
#228
"The happenings within the past week are a disappointment for Filipino gamers, the gaming community and e-sports in general. This was a great opportunity for the country to further progress globally through e-sports and it was lost through a series of miscommunication and mismanagement. We empathize with the players and the fans who were deeply disappointed with the quality of the event.

The facts may be all laid out but we are not in a position to pass judgement. We leave that task to the proper figures and hope that justice be served. We only hope to further develop e-sports for our country and regain what was lost. This event will not be the end and we will rebuild on it and be stronger as we learn from the mistakes.

We would also like to recognize those who stepped up in the time of chaos and along with the spirit of the gaming community, soldiered on to see the end of the event to the best of their abilities. They are unsung heroes who were also unjustly blamed for the actions of one. Through them we see that the community acting as one and we hope to see this as show of true strength and solidarity.

A fire has been lit beneath us. We will let it grow to be a flame and show the world that Philippine e-sports is made not by one man, but one country."

- Mineski International Inc.

Source: http://www.mineski.net/news/952/a-statement-from-mineski
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 13:00:53
November 10 2011 12:58 GMT
#229
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?
avoiderdragon
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 14:58:26
November 10 2011 14:21 GMT
#230
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 21:58 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?



In his defense though, he got screwed pretty bad. Maybe his reaction here is with the conversation I had with him the next day pertaining to the thread on the event in SC2SEA, but I still tried to be as polite as I can be to him. I did talk about Gus in that one, but still being careful not to offend Dox at all. Perhaps through that careful language, I did come off as some douche. I can produce a screenshot of that conversation too if you wish to see it.

I swear that I try to be as professional as possible with correspondence of such nature. I have no idea how anyone can view me as blunt and disrespectful. Abrupt perhaps, but always as respectful as possible.
I'm a triple attack player.
ILoveAustralia
Profile Joined October 2011
Bangladesh104 Posts
November 10 2011 14:24 GMT
#231
So guys I just read this.. Prettyt bad and shocking to hear and worst of all this amanda person seems to received the worst punishment of all. If the OP or someone that is in contact with her or him can start a new thread for donations to pay up the missing funds so she wont face jail time..

GOOGOG DO itt... unless its already been done.. whats da link to donate?
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
November 10 2011 15:09 GMT
#232
On November 10 2011 23:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 21:58 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?



In his defense though, he got screwed pretty bad. Maybe his reaction here is with the conversation I had with him the next day pertaining to the thread on the event in SC2SEA, but I still tried to be as polite as I can be to him. I did talk about Gus in that one, but still being careful not to offend Dox at all. Perhaps through that careful language, I did come off as some douche. I can produce a screenshot of that conversation too if you wish to see it.

I swear that I try to be as professional as possible with correspondence of such nature. I have no idea how anyone can view me as blunt and disrespectful. Abrupt perhaps, but always as respectful as possible.


Well, a screenshot of the second one could be interesting to actually know for sure if he was talking about the one that you already showed or the second one.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 15:26:59
November 10 2011 15:26 GMT
#233
Thanks for this blog. I can't help but read all the posts on this subject with a smile of pure astonishment.
I had a good night of sleep.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 10 2011 15:29 GMT
#234
On November 10 2011 21:58 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?

Yeah, I don't really understand why anything Dox said about the LP entry fiasco is even remotely true. It was a friendly, polite conversation as opposed to "abrupt, blunt" and "angry". Also at no point in that conversation did they ask him to take down the page because it was "take the spotlight away". The request seemed entirely reasonable. I don't really buy that there's confusion with some other conversation because Dox could just as easily rehash his memory by looking at the logs. It's understandable though to twist in some bias given what he had to go through with this whole debacle. Still, I would really like an explanation from Dox on this matter.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 10 2011 15:36 GMT
#235
well his team might as well die now, nobody should ever respect him or AZK in the future. Let's run this rat out of town, he has no place in our community. C'ya dork.
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avoiderdragon
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines14 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 16:28:22
November 10 2011 16:26 GMT
#236
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 11 2011 00:09 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 23:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 10 2011 21:58 Xalorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?



In his defense though, he got screwed pretty bad. Maybe his reaction here is with the conversation I had with him the next day pertaining to the thread on the event in SC2SEA, but I still tried to be as polite as I can be to him. I did talk about Gus in that one, but still being careful not to offend Dox at all. Perhaps through that careful language, I did come off as some douche. I can produce a screenshot of that conversation too if you wish to see it.

I swear that I try to be as professional as possible with correspondence of such nature. I have no idea how anyone can view me as blunt and disrespectful. Abrupt perhaps, but always as respectful as possible.


Well, a screenshot of the second one could be interesting to actually know for sure if he was talking about the one that you already showed or the second one.



Alright then, here's the second conversation.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


If I did seem blunt and impolite there, please tell me. I really don't know where I went wrong there.

I don't intend to make his post here any less true pertaining to his concerns with Gus, but there was no need to paint me as an accomplice to villainy. Not making me look like a part of this treachery will not make his argument less convincing, so I do wish to know why he would respond in such a way. I hope that we can all come to an understanding here. I'm not angry with Dox at all, but I want to avoid getting mixed up in this mess. I really was just doing my job.
I'm a triple attack player.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 10 2011 16:42 GMT
#237
Name dropping detected!
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
November 10 2011 17:17 GMT
#238
On November 11 2011 01:26 avoiderdragon wrote:
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On November 11 2011 00:09 Xalorian wrote:
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On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

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Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?



In his defense though, he got screwed pretty bad. Maybe his reaction here is with the conversation I had with him the next day pertaining to the thread on the event in SC2SEA, but I still tried to be as polite as I can be to him. I did talk about Gus in that one, but still being careful not to offend Dox at all. Perhaps through that careful language, I did come off as some douche. I can produce a screenshot of that conversation too if you wish to see it.

I swear that I try to be as professional as possible with correspondence of such nature. I have no idea how anyone can view me as blunt and disrespectful. Abrupt perhaps, but always as respectful as possible.


Well, a screenshot of the second one could be interesting to actually know for sure if he was talking about the one that you already showed or the second one.



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If I did seem blunt and impolite there, please tell me. I really don't know where I went wrong there.

I don't intend to make his post here any less true pertaining to his concerns with Gus, but there was no need to paint me as an accomplice to villainy. Not making me look like a part of this treachery will not make his argument less convincing, so I do wish to know why he would respond in such a way. I hope that we can all come to an understanding here. I'm not angry with Dox at all, but I want to avoid getting mixed up in this mess. I really was just doing my job.

Hmm...yeah, so it seems like Dox had a reason for what he said based on this conversation. At least the part about taking spotlight. He should have been very careful to separate you from Gus though. You made it extremely apparent in your (polite) conversation that you were only trying to do your job. You were actually trying to be diplomatic and trying to keep Gus from throwing a shit fit in the direction of Dox.

Dox should rectify the wording on his post to not make it seem like you were an accomplish. As far as I can tell you were just trying to do your job without getting anyone angry.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Xalorian
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Last Edited: 2011-11-10 18:06:11
November 10 2011 17:41 GMT
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On November 11 2011 02:17 garbanzo wrote:
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On November 11 2011 01:26 avoiderdragon wrote:
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On November 11 2011 00:09 Xalorian wrote:
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On November 10 2011 23:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
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On November 10 2011 21:58 Xalorian wrote:
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On November 10 2011 16:21 avoiderdragon wrote:
Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now.


Greetings. My name is Sonny Go, and I am the writer and content manager for Team AZK. I was also the guy who sat beside TheGunrun during the event, doing online updates. I just want to inform the public that I was not "extremely angry", but was merely doing my job. I don't think that my messages were blunt in the very least. I did my best to come off as polite and formal as possible through the whole thing.

View this spoiler to read the conversation.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hopefully, I didn't reveal anything there that isn't supposed to be seen by others. I didn't want to resort to posting something here in order to clear things up, but I've thought about it and even messaged Dox in Skype and in this website, but I haven't gotten a reply for two hours now.

I have no personal loyalties to Gus as I only met him like two months ago or so after getting picked up as a writer for the team. However, I will do my job as long as I'm their writer. Whether I stay or leave Team AZK is my decision alone. For now, I hope that I've clarified things enough. That event was my first direct involvement in esports and I wish to get more involved in this wonderful scene, but this fiasco has gotten me thinking twice.


Oh well, interesting.

So if i'm not mistaken... this is the said conversation between sunny and Dox, right?

Who is lieing there? How was this skype conversation any way near blunt/angry? He never talked about Gus, either, and was very polite.

Wtf Dox...? Why would you lie about something like that?



In his defense though, he got screwed pretty bad. Maybe his reaction here is with the conversation I had with him the next day pertaining to the thread on the event in SC2SEA, but I still tried to be as polite as I can be to him. I did talk about Gus in that one, but still being careful not to offend Dox at all. Perhaps through that careful language, I did come off as some douche. I can produce a screenshot of that conversation too if you wish to see it.

I swear that I try to be as professional as possible with correspondence of such nature. I have no idea how anyone can view me as blunt and disrespectful. Abrupt perhaps, but always as respectful as possible.


Well, a screenshot of the second one could be interesting to actually know for sure if he was talking about the one that you already showed or the second one.



Alright then, here's the second conversation.

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If I did seem blunt and impolite there, please tell me. I really don't know where I went wrong there.

I don't intend to make his post here any less true pertaining to his concerns with Gus, but there was no need to paint me as an accomplice to villainy. Not making me look like a part of this treachery will not make his argument less convincing, so I do wish to know why he would respond in such a way. I hope that we can all come to an understanding here. I'm not angry with Dox at all, but I want to avoid getting mixed up in this mess. I really was just doing my job.

Hmm...yeah, so it seems like Dox had a reason for what he said based on this conversation. At least the part about taking spotlight. He should have been very careful to separate you from Gus though. You made it extremely apparent in your (polite) conversation that you were only trying to do your job. You were actually trying to be diplomatic and trying to keep Gus from throwing a shit fit in the direction of Dox.

Dox should rectify the wording on his post to not make it seem like you were an accomplish. As far as I can tell you were just trying to do your job without getting anyone angry.


Well, turns out that that the fact brought by Dox was still wrong, anyway.

"Half way through the Australian qualifiers, I received some abrupt, blunt messages from someone who identified himself as Sonny (AZK.Avoider) Go. He was extremely angry about the Liquipedia page that Blahz0r made for me (out of the kindness of his own heart, seriously, someone shower that guy in love and respect <3) because he felt that I was taking the spotlight away from Team AZK and misleading people into thinking that this was my tournament. I clarified that the very first sentence on the page explained that it was an Australian qualifier for the Pacific event hosted by AZK, but he asked me to take the page down, so that they could replace it with their own. He explained that Gus was furious, and eventually the Australian Qualifier was integrated with the parent IPL4 page, as you see it now."


The only thing remotely true is that "Gus was furious" and even that is exagerated...

If Dox is lying about that... How can we know that he is not lying for anything else?

Making up thing to make it looks worse will get this shit no where...



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November 10 2011 19:00 GMT
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is the issue solved? if she still needs help where can we raise money? would like to give something.
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