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xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 02:45:00
October 10 2011 02:42 GMT
#41
I think the majority of complaints were about the scheduling, not LoL itself. People don't like being interrupted so when it happens don't expect everyone to be happy and welcoming of whatever interrupts the flow. You'd get the exact same reaction if the LoL tournament had been cut off for 2 hours to stream the same Starcraft matches twice on two streams.

Edit: Also don't base your opinion of communities around stream chat which everyone knows is full of trolls.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 02:52:45
October 10 2011 02:52 GMT
#42
On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
it's not a good competitive game at all and most pros will tell you that.

Pros at what? Are you quoting LoL pro's who say that their game sucks? Or pros at some other game, in which case I don't think they have much credibility.

On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
I just can't stand the game because when I know I can do exactly what the pros do

Why aren't you a progamer yet then?
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
October 10 2011 02:54 GMT
#43
Can't believe how elitist some of these comments are. League of legends is a much more popular casual game as well as an esport as there are higher stream numbers for tournaments, so they deserve respect. The game may have less of a learning curve, but it definitely is not a no skill game and the skill ceiling can be just as high as DOTA. The fact that LoL was also the first game to get its own sub-forum on TL.net should make people think twice before attacking the game.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
October 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#44
On October 10 2011 11:52 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
it's not a good competitive game at all and most pros will tell you that.

Pros at what? Are you quoting LoL pro's who say that their game sucks? Or pros at some other game, in which case I don't think they have much credibility.

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On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
I just can't stand the game because when I know I can do exactly what the pros do

Why aren't you a progamer yet then?


As far as MOBA games go, LoL is considered the easiest one even by casual players.

My brother has a MOBA website, plays a ton and has a ton of friends that play a ton of MOBAs as well since they run the site together and have a small community and it's pretty much universally agreed that LoL is the easiest one in comparison to the other options.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51083 Posts
October 10 2011 03:01 GMT
#45
On October 10 2011 11:54 calvinL wrote:
Can't believe how elitist some of these comments are. League of legends is a much more popular casual game as well as an esport as there are higher stream numbers for tournaments, so they deserve respect. The game may have less of a learning curve, but it definitely is not a no skill game and the skill ceiling can be just as high as DOTA. The fact that LoL was also the first game to get its own sub-forum on TL.net should make people think twice before attacking the game.


lies,by definition mafia is a game and it had its sub forum for ages.

but yea,no need to shit on LoL,also OP are you really pissed by what the lowest of the low said about LoL?

Lowest of the low being the people who hang around stream chats for such SC2 events.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:04:05
October 10 2011 03:03 GMT
#46
On October 10 2011 12:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On October 10 2011 11:54 calvinL wrote:
Can't believe how elitist some of these comments are. League of legends is a much more popular casual game as well as an esport as there are higher stream numbers for tournaments, so they deserve respect. The game may have less of a learning curve, but it definitely is not a no skill game and the skill ceiling can be just as high as DOTA. The fact that LoL was also the first game to get its own sub-forum on TL.net should make people think twice before attacking the game.


lies,by definition mafia is a game and it had its sub forum for ages.

but yea,no need to shit on LoL,also OP are you really pissed by what the lowest of the low said about LoL?

Lowest of the low being the people who hang around stream chats for such SC2 events.

There's been some rage posting regarding IPL around here that is Youtube-comment quality.
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Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
October 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#47
competitive LoL remind me of competitive world of warcraft arena. basically it's a joke. I can't wait for dota 2 to come out so we never hear about the term competitive LoL again.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 10 2011 03:16 GMT
#48
On October 10 2011 12:00 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 11:52 triangle wrote:
On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
it's not a good competitive game at all and most pros will tell you that.

Pros at what? Are you quoting LoL pro's who say that their game sucks? Or pros at some other game, in which case I don't think they have much credibility.

On October 10 2011 10:51 Ruscour wrote:
I just can't stand the game because when I know I can do exactly what the pros do

Why aren't you a progamer yet then?


As far as MOBA games go, LoL is considered the easiest one even by casual players.

My brother has a MOBA website, plays a ton and has a ton of friends that play a ton of MOBAs as well since they run the site together and have a small community and it's pretty much universally agreed that LoL is the easiest one in comparison to the other options.

A. That doesn't really respond to either of my comments.
B. I'm not sure why people seem to think more difficult=more competitive. I mean, sepak takraw is way harder than football, but most people wouldn't say it's a "better" game or a more competitive game.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
October 10 2011 03:16 GMT
#49
On October 10 2011 10:31 BordZ wrote:
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On October 10 2011 10:24 setzer wrote:
On October 10 2011 10:20 BordZ wrote:
On October 10 2011 10:17 setzer wrote:
On October 10 2011 10:11 BordZ wrote:
On October 10 2011 10:06 AnxiousHippo wrote:
There are 6 streams, 2 main streams. I don't mind LoL, but I don't see why they couldn't have LoL on one stream and SC2 on the other.


It doesnt matter what Ign deicded to do with the streams, the sc2 community should not be so hostile towards something different. You's seem to think that yous are the best gaming community but this demonstrates otherwise (and no i am not saying lol's is better, I know for a fact it is worse).


Take a look at the top of the website. Does it say LoL progaming news - community - team? No. Does it say E-sports news - community - team? No. It's great to support all of e-sports but this is a STARCRAFT website and I would expect many people here to only care about SC. People here aren't obligated to support anything other than SC and I really don't see why that surprises you so much.


I blogged here as I play both and TL is generally a lot more respectful than other communities.


If people didn't come to the LoL forum and troll the board about LoL being played instead of SC2 you really shouldn't be upset. There are a lot of people here to enjoy LoL and the fact that it even has its own sub-forum shows its popularity within this community. Why is that not enough? Why do you think every person here has to respect LoL or be okay with it taking up time that could be used for SC2? Keep in mind many here can't commit to watching until midnight or morning (for EU). Having LoL on is just a waste of time for them and (to me) it is understandable that they would want to vent their frustration.


Well thats easy, the US is the target audience. There will be a rebroadcast for EU (at least I think there was one when i was watching earlier this week) and I dont understand what the sub forum has to do with anything.

And I never said I was ok with lol taking up time that could have been sc2, I just said you shouldnt hate on it becuase its not what you expected. you got a problem you take it up with the broadcaster IGN, not the game itself.
US isn't target audience, Starcraft and LoL fans are... The subforum shows that TL DOES respect LoL.
You started all this, now you're asking us to take it up with IGN.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 10 2011 03:22 GMT
#50
On October 10 2011 11:17 Kurr wrote:
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On October 10 2011 11:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'm not going to explain exactly what I mean, you can PM me if you want, but when SC2 players bash LoL, a lot of the reasons they use make me smile at the dripping hypocrisy.


No matter how thinly veiled you make your SC2 vs BW comparison, it's still frowned upon by the mods...

Don't turn this into what you think is an SC2 vs BW comparison because of what he said; you're the one who views it that way when it could easily be some other reason. It's about people dissatisfied with how they scheduled LoL; and the view of some people that it was "forced" on them. I'd say there's a greater troll proportion among those ranting about it.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
October 10 2011 03:32 GMT
#51
This thread is going places. I feel like the first reply after the OP pretty much exhausts it, but some of the replies after that are pretty funny to read, I'll give you that.
calvinL
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada416 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#52
On October 10 2011 12:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 11:54 calvinL wrote:
Can't believe how elitist some of these comments are. League of legends is a much more popular casual game as well as an esport as there are higher stream numbers for tournaments, so they deserve respect. The game may have less of a learning curve, but it definitely is not a no skill game and the skill ceiling can be just as high as DOTA. The fact that LoL was also the first game to get its own sub-forum on TL.net should make people think twice before attacking the game.


lies,by definition mafia is a game and it had its sub forum for ages.

but yea,no need to shit on LoL,also OP are you really pissed by what the lowest of the low said about LoL?

Lowest of the low being the people who hang around stream chats for such SC2 events.


Sorry, didn't specify but I meant the first sub-forum for a competitive video game thats like Starcraft. As I understand it mafia is a forum game.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#53
On October 10 2011 12:14 Phemtos wrote:
competitive LoL remind me of competitive world of warcraft arena. basically it's a joke. I can't wait for dota 2 to come out so we never hear about the term competitive LoL again.


you know so much about it. you all are experts on it.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 10 2011 03:38 GMT
#54
I played broodwar and I remember some kids thought they were the shit at dota so I said "rofl you control one unit with 4 abilities, pretty tough shit there"

but then I hear HoN is easier than that
and LoL is even easier to the point of being completely degenerate at top level play.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
October 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#55
I understand you want to make yourself feel important, but shouldn't complaints about stream chat be directed towards justintv/stream chat? Posting a blog on TL seems like you're just trying to start drama and be the center of attention as the op.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 10 2011 03:44 GMT
#56
On October 10 2011 12:43 wxwx wrote:
I understand you want to make yourself feel important, but shouldn't complaints about stream chat be directed towards justintv/stream chat? Posting a blog on TL seems like you're just trying to start drama and be the center of attention as the op.


No it doesn't
this is a real discussion and you are making it meta for no good reason
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
zanmat0
Profile Joined December 2010
188 Posts
October 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#57
On October 10 2011 09:51 BordZ wrote:
The truth of the matter is this, League does actually take a lot of skill to play


Stopped reading there.

User was temp banned for this post.
Trict
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada182 Posts
October 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#58
The truth is regardless of skill both games a pushing esports in a forward direction and being negative in anyway shape or form is hurting that. Starcraft has always pushed for manner in game its now time to extend that outwards to esports in general.
Dapgo
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
October 10 2011 03:52 GMT
#59
So you're mad because a bunch of SC2 fans trolled the stream chat while LoL took over the stream. Even if it was perfectly scheduled it wasnt going to be accepted, stop trying to write an essay to prove people your favorite game is so keewl and they shouldnt hate it, if you love LoL enjoy your stream, your community and dont pay attention to what SC2 fans think...
alexpnd
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1857 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:54:51
October 10 2011 03:54 GMT
#60
edit: nm enough replies in this topic
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