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On October 09 2011 12:27 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 09:46 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:21 micronesia wrote:On October 09 2011 02:10 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 00:23 micronesia wrote:On October 08 2011 23:44 emperorchampion wrote:
Alright, let's get started...
1) The box at the front is useless and ugly as fuck, lose it Read my last post and you'll realize you are being dumb (my post isn't serious btw). I don't mean to be an asshole, but there are so many glaring errors that I can't even begin to start making specific recommendations. People who live in glass houses... lol What's going on, I'm still drunk from last night... The box isn't actually part of his resume; he just put one to cover his contact info so TL wouldn't know his address and phone number. Hahahaha re-reading this I realized I just got micronesia'd  I was referring to the "Technical Skills" box :p Oh when you said "the box that is ugly as fuck" you meant the box that is ugly as fuck and not the table that is slightly unappealing :p Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 11:52 Phtes wrote:
Your resume should always stick to 1 page only, thats the standard any thing more and people just wont read it. Only put important things on it. 1 Page is good but not necessarily as much of a rule as many people in this thread are making it out to be.
Actually a ton of interviewers hold to that rule, I know plenty of people who interview people, and if its over 1 page they generally avoid it unless it's some super awesome guy and even then it brings you down, One Page = awesome strive for it, Two page = meh but workable, Anything more = good bye generally.
@Op
A interview is almost 90% speaking skills. You have to be able to sell yourself to them go research the job your interviewed for, make your resume match they're needs. So research the crap out of them, walk in and when they ask you something like "What can you do for us?" you wont freeze up, you will be able to answer properly and swiftly. SELL YOURSELF. Knowledge = Power in this case.
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On October 09 2011 15:42 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 12:27 micronesia wrote:On October 09 2011 09:46 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:21 micronesia wrote:On October 09 2011 02:10 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 00:23 micronesia wrote:On October 08 2011 23:44 emperorchampion wrote:
Alright, let's get started...
1) The box at the front is useless and ugly as fuck, lose it Read my last post and you'll realize you are being dumb (my post isn't serious btw). I don't mean to be an asshole, but there are so many glaring errors that I can't even begin to start making specific recommendations. People who live in glass houses... lol What's going on, I'm still drunk from last night... The box isn't actually part of his resume; he just put one to cover his contact info so TL wouldn't know his address and phone number. Hahahaha re-reading this I realized I just got micronesia'd I was referring to the "Technical Skills" box :p Oh when you said "the box that is ugly as fuck" you meant the box that is ugly as fuck and not the table that is slightly unappealing :p On October 09 2011 11:52 Phtes wrote:
Your resume should always stick to 1 page only, thats the standard any thing more and people just wont read it. Only put important things on it. 1 Page is good but not necessarily as much of a rule as many people in this thread are making it out to be. Actually a ton of interviewers hold to that rule, I know plenty of people who interview people, and if its over 1 page they generally avoid it unless it's some super awesome guy and even then it brings you down, One Page = awesome strive for it, Two page = meh but workable, Anything more = good bye generally. @Op A interview is almost 90% speaking skills. You have to be able to sell yourself to them go research the job your interviewed for, make your resume match they're needs. So research the crap out of them, walk in and when they ask you something like "What can you do for us?" you wont freeze up, you will be able to answer properly and swiftly. SELL YOURSELF. Knowledge = Power in this case.
it definitely depends on the person and position. you might need two pages if you have a lot of work experience.
i once thought the 1 page rule was golden, but after approaching several career service and resume specialists, i've come to accept the fact that my resume will never be that small
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On October 09 2011 15:42 Phtes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 12:27 micronesia wrote:On October 09 2011 09:46 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 02:21 micronesia wrote:On October 09 2011 02:10 emperorchampion wrote:On October 09 2011 00:23 micronesia wrote:On October 08 2011 23:44 emperorchampion wrote:
Alright, let's get started...
1) The box at the front is useless and ugly as fuck, lose it Read my last post and you'll realize you are being dumb (my post isn't serious btw). I don't mean to be an asshole, but there are so many glaring errors that I can't even begin to start making specific recommendations. People who live in glass houses... lol What's going on, I'm still drunk from last night... The box isn't actually part of his resume; he just put one to cover his contact info so TL wouldn't know his address and phone number. Hahahaha re-reading this I realized I just got micronesia'd I was referring to the "Technical Skills" box :p Oh when you said "the box that is ugly as fuck" you meant the box that is ugly as fuck and not the table that is slightly unappealing :p On October 09 2011 11:52 Phtes wrote:
Your resume should always stick to 1 page only, thats the standard any thing more and people just wont read it. Only put important things on it. 1 Page is good but not necessarily as much of a rule as many people in this thread are making it out to be. Actually a ton of interviewers hold to that rule, I know plenty of people who interview people, and if its over 1 page they generally avoid it unless it's some super awesome guy and even then it brings you down, One Page = awesome strive for it, Two page = meh but workable, Anything more = good bye generally. @Op A interview is almost 90% speaking skills. You have to be able to sell yourself to them go research the job your interviewed for, make your resume match they're needs. So research the crap out of them, walk in and when they ask you something like "What can you do for us?" you wont freeze up, you will be able to answer properly and swiftly. SELL YOURSELF. Knowledge = Power in this case.
It depends on how densely packed the text is. Like, when I applied for jobs a few years ago my resume was 2 pages but there wasn't a tremendous amount of text on the first page, it was well formatted for easy reading, and the most pertinent information was on the front. If not for those facts then I think I would have been making a mistake though. (I also had references on the resume which took up more room I guess).
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On October 09 2011 09:11 SpoR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 22:59 Warrior Madness wrote:
Also, you have a graphics design degree? Why aren't you applying for jobs like webdesign and stuff? Have you tried freelancing on the side? No, if you look at the dates I only went for about a year. I dropped out cause it didn't seem like it would be a good fit for me and I didn't think the competitive market when I would be done would net me a job. I was pretty much right. As others have said, degree doesn't get you shit right now except what a HS education got you 10 years ago. Seems stupid to go back and finish school, although I was about to this fall for IT, which also seems pretty stupid. Everything I like isn't a career choice apparently. Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 00:41 DyEnasTy wrote:
I know this is off topic, but you went to high school in Rocklin CA???
Do you still live close to there? I went to more schools than there are grades. I went there for about a year, I also went to a school in Sacramento in that area. No, I don't like near that shithole anymore, only good thing to come from there is DAD's Rootbeer and that's even pushing it lol
Oh bummer. If you did still live around there, that you make you the closest TL'er I live too. Probably have never heard of it, but I live in Grass Valley (keep going up the hill on highway 80 then get off at Colfax and get on another highway).
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Don't ever ever ever make your resume longer than one page. Even the world's most accomplished man should only have a one page resume.
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On October 08 2011 23:26 Nokarot wrote:
2) Objective. Consider this a sentence-long miniature cover letter detailing what you want out of this job, career wise. This needs to be personalized for each job application- every employer wants to know what an asset you will be to them.
I've never had an objective in any of my resumes. I think they just take up space and aren't really useful. Anyone can string together a list of catchy words; it really doesn't tell the recruiter anything.
EDIT: Also, you should reeeeeeally fix the formatting on your new resume. Misaligned columns don't scream confidence. Finally, your bullet points should sound impressive. At the moment, they're distinctly meh.
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the word "objective" shouldnt be a section of its own but you do need a personalized message of sorts, I think.
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Meh, to each his own. I've never had one.
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I'm not going to hire anyone that worked one job for two months, then went to the next job for a month, and so on... No, I didn't read the entire resume, its too long, but that's one thing that does stand out, and it isn't good.
If you were at a job for less than six months, do NOT let them know this. Unless you left for a higher paying job. But you aren't going to have that on your resume so just stick to a minimum of six months per job.
Chances are, if they do any background checking, it will only be on your most recent job.
EDIT: Not sure if you have any temporary staffing agencies near you, but I would definitely look into that.
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I disagree with some of the responses here that you should keep your resume to 1 page - but this is could be the cultural differences between America and Australia. In Australia, we tend to provide a CV, which is essentially a more detailed resume.
I do agree that perhaps the resume could be slightly more concise - but I would definitely list all the jobs that you've worked on. This shows that you've taken active steps to be employed and working in any job gives you valuable skills.
One thing I would do is to list your accomplishments in your jobs and what results they produced for the companies you worked in.
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On October 10 2011 13:32 Azzur wrote:
I would definitely list all the jobs that you've worked on. This shows that you've taken active steps to be employed and working in any job gives you valuable skills.
I disagree. If I'm a prospective employer and I see that this guy switches entry level jobs every few months, I'd be more inclined to think that there's something wrong with him that causes this to be the case, be it his work ethic, his commitment, or any other variety of application-killing reasons.
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On October 09 2011 09:11 SpoR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 22:59 Warrior Madness wrote:
Also, you have a graphics design degree? Why aren't you applying for jobs like webdesign and stuff? Have you tried freelancing on the side? No, if you look at the dates I only went for about a year. I dropped out cause it didn't seem like it would be a good fit for me and I didn't think the competitive market when I would be done would net me a job. I was pretty much right. As others have said, degree doesn't get you shit right now except what a HS education got you 10 years ago. Seems stupid to go back and finish school, although I was about to this fall for IT, which also seems pretty stupid. Everything I like isn't a career choice apparently. Show nested quote +On October 09 2011 00:41 DyEnasTy wrote:
I know this is off topic, but you went to high school in Rocklin CA???
Do you still live close to there? I went to more schools than there are grades. I went there for about a year, I also went to a school in Sacramento in that area. No, I don't live near that shithole anymore, only good thing to come from there is DAD's Rootbeer and that's even pushing it lol
There's an outstanding amount of good advice for your skills and career in this thread. Also, I didn't intend to be negative about the job market and college. Simply put, you can't view it from the limited perspective of "a college degree gets me what a High School degree got me" as the H. S. degree hasn't (personally) done anything for you, and the year of college on your resume most likely inclines the reader to think that you can't finish the jobs/projects/schooling that you start.
Moreover, I. T. isn't the kind of industry where one can find good work right off the bat, and I qualify those reasons in my original post. If, however, you want to be in I. T. I would recommend pursuing a passion for computer programming, as coders are indeed needed in a variety of industries--it is however, not a get rich quick industry as you need both the passion and intuition to pick a company wisely and code projects that become or are successful.
Conversely, system admin. positions come in groves and the competition is silly enough anyway. In fact, most professional jobs, be it business, computers or media are simply referring to "entry level" positions as the gateways. Granted, the terms entry level and intern are now wildly filled with scamster organizations looking to get free or cheap labor. But a H. S. diploma will not even get your foot into the door: 200 applicants, say that 75 have college degrees. You will never be considered. Then you move on to more professional jobs, say they require a college degree (emphatically stating so in the job description) and a few years of experience. This time you have a degree and a few years of experience (most likely gained from not liking whatever first job you had), and now you can be considered for upper positions that require more experience and pay more.
Unless you make a highly successful product, the H. S. degree is (on the level of finding a job that pays at a certain level) essentially useless. I recommend finding career and personality tests either online or through career services at a university that can help determine your set of skills. Also, you don't want to necessarily make your hobby a career--as you certainly will part with it being a hobby at that point.
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2 pages max. That's the first thing you need to fix.
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