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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 07:38:10
September 16 2011 07:32 GMT
#1
Alright fellow TLers, I am completely ignorant to World of Warcraft in general and need some answers from people who know about the scene or have played it recently, for a good cause.

My friend recently moved to Texas from South Florida with a mutual friend of ours, his best friend. He is -broke-. He cannot find a job to save his life. He's not an idiot, and in general a good hire. But that's besides the point, the point is he's a good guy who's fallen on hard times and I'm trying to help him out in the minor way that I can. He has a bunch of high ranking WoW accounts. I know, the thoughts are "oh another WoW loser with no job". Not the case, he moved away from here with a really good job, but he just <3s WoW... so much he lost his gf of years over it.

So my question to you, TLers, is this:
Suppose you had 8 level 85 "toons" (he said it, don't know what it means) on an account and you were interested in seeing if it had any value.

1) Is this something that has been sold before?
2) If accounts have been sold on WoW, hypothetically what would his character be worth?
3) If there are websites where this is commonplace, could you link me?

So this blog is short, but it's self-explanatory. I don't know a damn thing, and I want to help my friend out. I'm willing to take general advice, given that it's constructive. And if someone has done this before, can you go over it with me?

Clueless,
LRM)Game

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SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 16 2011 07:35 GMT
#2
I expect this blog might be closed because selling accounts is against the Blizzard ToS and TL kind of likes Blizzard.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 16 2011 07:35 GMT
#3
On September 16 2011 16:35 SnowFantasy wrote:
I expect this blog might be closed because selling accounts is against the Blizzard ToS and TL kind of likes Blizzard.

Shit... really? Let me edit it then to make it maybe acceptable.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
ryndaris
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
263 Posts
September 16 2011 07:38 GMT
#4
I'm pretty sure that selling your WoW/Battle.net account is against Blizzard's terms, so this isn't something you should be doing. That said, it makes sense to me that an account with 8 lvl 85s probably would sell - the question is for how much. Unless one or more of his characters have rare achievements, titles, mounts, etc. it shouldn't net all that much.
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 07:39:34
September 16 2011 07:39 GMT
#5
You guys are scaring me. I'm actually concerned that my ignorance of Blizzard policies might get me a warning :/
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
September 16 2011 07:41 GMT
#6
It's possible to sell an account, though I wouldnt know how to do it exactly (never actually done it myself). These days, a max level character or even 8 max level characters is not terribly valuable, so it's going to depend on what sort of items/achievements the characters have.

If he has some really rare items or skill-demanding achievements on one of the characters, he could definitely sell it to some sad, sad person who will pretend he got those items/achievements himself.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 16 2011 07:44 GMT
#7
Damnnnn TL Moves fast these days. Check the PM I sent you though.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
September 16 2011 07:45 GMT
#8
MarqueeDragon used to be the premier Wow account selling site, but with a cursory google search, I found that it was replaced with MMObay. Characters can go from $140 for a decent geared 85 to insane amounts of money if he has rare mounts/titles/gold/gear.

That said, it is hard to quite wow. Right now, considering the lack of good content, it might be easier to quit than in a few months, after blizzcon and 4.3. Are you trying to force his to quit or is this his idea?
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 07:46:52
September 16 2011 07:45 GMT
#9
Does he want to sell it for the sake of money? Or, to quit the game? Tbh, If he is somebody who can not control himself and MUST indulge into the world of azeroth, I HIGHLY recommend that he rids of his account in some shape or form. Not saying he should go against the TOS and sell it, but rather just convince himself to quit the game. I have a couple of friends who are also big WoW gamers. Normal people, pretty smart...had good jobs....girlfriends...friends..etc... but WoW just consumed their lives and now they barely live hand-to-mouth while fulfilling their WoW drive.
Time is money my friend.
RivalryRedux
Profile Joined July 2009
United States173 Posts
September 16 2011 07:49 GMT
#10
I've sold some characters ranging from 200-500. It's unlikely for him to get more than 500-1000 for his account unless he had some mega good stuff like spectral tiger, tip top raid gear, or tons of gold (which is worth like 1$ per thousand). Also I'm not really sure if selling his hobby for that kind of money is worth it if he still enjoys WoW.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16092 Posts
September 16 2011 07:53 GMT
#11
Selling accounts is a violation of the Blizzard terms of use.

That being said I don't think there's much of a market in selling world of warcraft accounts anymore. The only real reason people paid much for them back in the day was because the gear was so hard to obtain and made you a god in PvP,

Not so today.
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Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
September 16 2011 07:54 GMT
#12
Wow, thank you guys for your answers thus far.

@tests he really needs the money, he said he'll end up just leveling up more accounts.

I guess I need to just look up the best sites for such a thing and check out their backgrounds.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
cryL
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia77 Posts
September 16 2011 08:07 GMT
#13
Time invested helping him on his job search would probably be a better option tbh. Aside from it being against ToS and very high chance the acc will just get scammed during the selling process the low worth due to ease of gearing and leveling means it's not even worth the hassle of selling a WoW account these days.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
September 16 2011 08:08 GMT
#14
On September 16 2011 16:53 Vindicare605 wrote:
Selling accounts is a violation of the Blizzard terms of use.

That being said I don't think there's much of a market in selling world of warcraft accounts anymore. The only real reason people paid much for them back in the day was because the gear was so hard to obtain and made you a god in PvP,

Not so today.


Yeah that last part is especially true. The value of an account has gone down a lot.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 08:21:24
September 16 2011 08:20 GMT
#15
I've heard of a fair number of people selling accounts, although it is against Blizzard ToS.

What I'm wondering is, I don't think selling WoW accounts would give him enough money to last very long, and seeing how he enjoys WoW so much, perhaps it might be worth it just to keep the account, unless WoW is interfering with the job search too much.

Point being, if might be too much to quit WoW completely when you're already going through hard times. You need something enjoyable in life, and I don't think WoW is (relatively) too expensive. Perhaps keeping just one account.

edit - 8 lvl 85 toons is a little crazy amount of time played, just imo
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 16 2011 08:25 GMT
#16
http://news.mmosite.com/content/2007-09-18/20070918012258124,1.shtml

Thats a really one time scenario though, I wouldn't expect to get much from a normal account especially if you're using one of those cheesy third-hand sites. Never bothered selling mine when I quit and I did have top PvP gear/Gladiator mounts back then but not worth the hassle. You shouldn't get much from a normal account, if you're unlucky or careless you get nothing or worse.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 08:35:22
September 16 2011 08:32 GMT
#17
On September 16 2011 17:07 cryL wrote:
Time invested helping him on his job search would probably be a better option tbh. Aside from it being against ToS and very high chance the acc will just get scammed during the selling process the low worth due to ease of gearing and leveling means it's not even worth the hassle of selling a WoW account these days.

Yep. Accounts used to go for a lot more than they do today and even then, the earning was pathetic when you calculated it as an hourly wage. I'm talking well under $1/hr, and usually closer to 10 cents/hour (not including subscription cost and cd keys.) Now, people get much less for their accounts and the risks are high.

It's probably a good idea for your friend to quit WoW anyways, and in that case he's not really losing anything by trying to sell the account but he's probably not going to get anything substantial for it. There's no way to know what it's worth without seeing the account and most of us wouldn't be able to judge it anyways, but accounts really don't sell for much anymore.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
September 16 2011 09:04 GMT
#18
I sold my first WoW account back in 2006 or 2007 for $2000, and I sold my other account in December for $500. You can make a few bucks from the time you spent playing the game, but you can't really make a job out of PLAYING the game.

If you can get somewhere around $500 for an account, thats what I'd go with. Unless you're sporting the best of the best (with 8, level 85 characters I doubt he is) gear/achievement/titles, its not worth much.

_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
September 16 2011 09:07 GMT
#19
People are selling accounts alot, but it inflated by time (if thats proper word) by alot, everyting is easy farmable and obtainable nowadays, so accounts with alot of achivments, mounts, pets, and rest of stuffs are more and more offten, hell there is even allreadz 700 legendaries from firelands, so even those accounts would not be THAT easy to sell for good money, as it was in TBC, we all remember for how much did that Rogue sold his first dual glaives...

But yeah times changed, and accounts losed their value by alot, Only things that have high prices are gladiator accounts, and some rare PvE achivments, as old server first titles, and scarab lords..
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Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
September 16 2011 09:29 GMT
#20
Selling, donating or deleting your acc is the only sure way to quit WoW, guaranteed. He definitely needs to do it. During mid-wotlk I sold my 6-time gladiator with some old school items and top notch current gear for a decent sum of money, but it's much easier to get a good deal on a single exceptional character than it is on several average ones because people will only pay for rare stuff like legendary mounts, a bunch of gladiator mounts, discontinued unique items and titles or super hard-to-find pets etc.

Also, it's a lot better to find someone interested on your server, a person you've known or dealt with in the past since in these transactions both parties can get scammed very easily.

If he can't sell it he should definitely delete it! A couple of clicks to get your life back...
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