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Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
September 15 2011 20:09 GMT
#1
Sooo I've been playing starcraft 2 a long time, and I like to play it and watch it (mostly GSL and MLG ) however a couple days ago I played broodwar with my older cousin (he suggested it over sc2) and I enjoyed playing broodwar alot with him. But now my cousin went away to college and im looking for a good place to broodwar games.. Is battle.net a good place? I heard of something called Iccup but thats probably too difficult opponents. . Also i've tried watching broodwar but I can't seem to find any English streams... Like I want to watch the coming up OSL finals is there streams in English??


Thanks for any help, <3 TL

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There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
HTX
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany265 Posts
September 15 2011 20:18 GMT
#2
youtube : nevake (korean), nukethestars (engl.)

finals: dont know

You can try Bnet and look for noob games but people will trick you from time to time which can kill the fun factor a bit in the beginning. I suggest Iccup for good games on your level.
The internet: a horrible collective liar
amatoer
Profile Joined January 2008
Germany212 Posts
September 15 2011 20:19 GMT
#3
iccup.com is your place then. You can forget the official Bnet servers because they are more or less empty (since a couple of years alrdy because blizz failed to add a good, working ladder).
There are korean server too, but the skill there is a lot higher. Dont go there.
But ICCup is different to the SC2 AMM system. You will go through a lot of loss, before you feel a little less noobish. So you better look for a mate at about your skilllevel and play with him on ICCup. So you have competition, fun and you wont feel like your massively failing.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
September 15 2011 20:30 GMT
#4
ICCup is your best bet. Bnet servers would be easier but yeah, they're pretty much empty.
:)
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 20:33:45
September 15 2011 20:33 GMT
#5
Iccup is the best server to start or noob around. But after some level (C-/C that is) fish is better.

For VODs, use TL VOD Tracker and TLPD.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 20:38:07
September 15 2011 20:34 GMT
#6
As for streams, Kiante and Sayle stream on a regular basis(Protoss that is), however you should just look at the side bar, and show non-featured to see the others.

Ow yeah Sayle has Disney music, if you are into that.

As for english commentary, the old gang has dissapeared however their vods are still there, including

Moletrap
Klazart(personally my favorite)
Diggity
Cholera

one who still does it and keeps up with the times is Nukethestars.

If you have any questions , feel free to ask in the General section, the irc channel #teamliquidbw or whenever there is Korean BW on(MSL,OSL, PL, although there won't be for a while except for OSL finals) feel free to ask questions in the chat, in general there are less people there, however the upcoming match is OSL final so questions are nogo there(whenever Jangbi storms, your question will be drowned in a psi storm of lines)

Liquipedia is also a great resource.
WriterXiao8~~
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 15 2011 20:40 GMT
#7
I haven't played BW in a very long time and if you wanna get started grab ICCUP and I'll play some games/watch replays with you. I can help you out and I'm at a place where I know a bit about BroodWar but am at a low enough skill level that playing against me won't just be getting murdered for months.
RIP Aaliyah
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
September 15 2011 20:44 GMT
#8
iccup is filled with noobs really. lets be honest the level isnt that great there. so if you have decent mechanics at all from playing other rts games and can follow and utilize build orders, its a good start, but youll soon be looking to advance to fish to play with the real challenge
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
September 15 2011 21:06 GMT
#9
iccup's launcher is buggy for me (well the windowed mode is screwed up for me, just crashes T_T) -____-'
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 15 2011 21:18 GMT
#10
then dont used windowed mode
RIP Aaliyah
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
September 15 2011 21:24 GMT
#11
On September 16 2011 05:44 Klaca wrote:
iccup is filled with noobs really. lets be honest the level isnt that great there. so if you have decent mechanics at all from playing other rts games and can follow and utilize build orders, its a good start, but youll soon be looking to advance to fish to play with the real challenge


Right, this is basically only true if you are above B+ level...
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
September 15 2011 21:26 GMT
#12
On September 16 2011 06:06 zhurai wrote:
iccup's launcher is buggy for me (well the windowed mode is screwed up for me, just crashes T_T) -____-'


This happened to me alot as well recently, Try right clicking -> run as administrator
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
September 15 2011 21:46 GMT
#13
On September 16 2011 06:26 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 06:06 zhurai wrote:
iccup's launcher is buggy for me (well the windowed mode is screwed up for me, just crashes T_T) -____-'


This happened to me alot as well recently, Try right clicking -> run as administrator


This is a thing with older games and windows vista or 7. The reason most new games keep stuff like save files in *My games" is because programs aren't allowed to change stuff in "My programs" by default. Since most pre vista keep save files in their "my programs" folder, you usually need to run them as an administrator.

Concerning the OP - i don't play BW, i just watch it. If you're up when the final starts airing, look on the right side of the web page and streams will be listed there.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
September 15 2011 21:52 GMT
#14
On September 16 2011 05:44 Klaca wrote:
iccup is filled with noobs really. lets be honest the level isnt that great there. so if you have decent mechanics at all from playing other rts games and can follow and utilize build orders, its a good start, but youll soon be looking to advance to fish to play with the real challenge


LOL this is such nonsense. Other RTS games dont require mechanics the same way BW does so no player is gonna be able to apply there "skills" from other rts to bw and instantly be half decent.

ICCUP is best place to start. If you search for a bit you might be able to find some other players that just recently switched over from sc2 since there is a minor surge of these sorts of people.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 23:11:03
September 15 2011 23:08 GMT
#15
DeJaVu has some decent VODs in English.

http://www.youtube.com/user/DejaVu119

Artosis had a few VODs and the earlier Day9 Dailies were really well done.

And of course TSL 1 VODs http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72586

TSL 2 VODs http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111470
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
September 16 2011 00:05 GMT
#16
To address your want for an english stream, I recommend just watching with the korean commentators (They really hype things up; I don't know how sc2 players can watch with english commentators) and then just open up the stream chat. You can most likely ask questions about the game in there, since the mods are (decently) nice.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 16 2011 00:16 GMT
#17
if anyone new to BW wants a practice partner/someone to lend a few tips my name on ICCUP is "vomit.insect"

im terrible so dont worry about getting trashed
RIP Aaliyah
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
September 16 2011 20:06 GMT
#18
On September 16 2011 09:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if anyone new to BW wants a practice partner/someone to lend a few tips my name on ICCUP is "vomit.insect"

im terrible so dont worry about getting trashed

yess I'm willing to that.. but how do u exactly play on Iccup do you have to download it or something??
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
September 16 2011 20:11 GMT
#19
On September 17 2011 05:06 Broodlings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 09:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if anyone new to BW wants a practice partner/someone to lend a few tips my name on ICCUP is "vomit.insect"

im terrible so dont worry about getting trashed

yess I'm willing to that.. but how do u exactly play on Iccup do you have to download it or something??

Go here for instructions on how to get iccup set up.
Liquipedia
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
September 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#20
On September 17 2011 05:11 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:06 Broodlings wrote:
On September 16 2011 09:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if anyone new to BW wants a practice partner/someone to lend a few tips my name on ICCUP is "vomit.insect"

im terrible so dont worry about getting trashed

yess I'm willing to that.. but how do u exactly play on Iccup do you have to download it or something??

Go here for instructions on how to get iccup set up.



thanks! :D having trouble finding where the auto-reg file is (the link gives me a list of downloads)
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
September 16 2011 20:17 GMT
#21
Iccup is the best place to learn. You'll play against better players in competitive maps than on bnet ladder, which is pretty much broken. Don't be discouraged if you lose your first 20 games or so though. I went 0-16 a few a years ago before I got my first win, but it was well worth it

Once you improve, you should probably try fish server. I haven't played on it, but the skill level is much higher and it's way more active because of Koreans.
Broodlings
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States157 Posts
September 16 2011 20:35 GMT
#22
On September 17 2011 05:17 Daozzt wrote:
Iccup is the best place to learn. You'll play against better players in competitive maps than on bnet ladder, which is pretty much broken. Don't be discouraged if you lose your first 20 games or so though. I went 0-16 a few a years ago before I got my first win, but it was well worth it

Once you improve, you should probably try fish server. I haven't played on it, but the skill level is much higher and it's way more active because of Koreans.


Alright im on Iccup but no1 seems to want to play a game with me
There is no Karont3 icon???? what is this madness?
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
September 16 2011 20:52 GMT
#23
if ur behind firewall ppl cant join ur game m8 so u gotta join games of others. and antihack so no ban
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 01:45:24
September 17 2011 01:44 GMT
#24
On September 17 2011 07:49 eton7410 wrote:
Supernovamaniac will cast OSL Final in his channel: http://www.twitch.tv/supernovamaniac
Make sure you check it out!


hope you enjoy the finals, it has potential to be super epic =p
ace hwaiting!!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 17 2011 01:49 GMT
#25
On September 17 2011 05:35 Broodlings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:17 Daozzt wrote:
Iccup is the best place to learn. You'll play against better players in competitive maps than on bnet ladder, which is pretty much broken. Don't be discouraged if you lose your first 20 games or so though. I went 0-16 a few a years ago before I got my first win, but it was well worth it

Once you improve, you should probably try fish server. I haven't played on it, but the skill level is much higher and it's way more active because of Koreans.


Alright im on Iccup but no1 seems to want to play a game with me

I'll play you. Add vomit.insect
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 17 2011 01:53 GMT
#26
im on right now if any bw newbies want to play as well
RIP Aaliyah
SarR
Profile Joined June 2011
476 Posts
September 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#27
On September 16 2011 05:19 amatoer wrote:
You can forget the official Bnet servers because they are more or less empty.....

This is not true. BGH is still very much alive on US EAST. I recently started playing there again because its getting very difficult to get games on ICCUP. There is still a fuckton of people playing BGH on US EAST.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
September 17 2011 04:08 GMT
#28
channel )v( is very popular for BGH on UsEast
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
September 17 2011 14:02 GMT
#29
iCCup is pretty tricky, I recommend

1. playing the campaign. It's not only awesome but it'll cover basic mechanics
2. Play a few games on b.net. It's emptier than iccup in terms of 1v1 games but the overall level is lower.

Even D level iccup players generally have a sense of builds and mechanics. Watch some progames too!
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